The Kevin Durant Thread (2016 - 17 Pt. 1)

KD35Brah · Post #61 » by **KD35Brah** » Sat Oct 29, 2016 7:43 am

Wall34 wrote:
KD35Brah wrote:Doesn't mean much, but 2 games in he's averaging 14rpg and 2bpg.

Can definittely see him averaging 10rpg and 1.7bpg.

25ppg(65% TS), 10rpg, 5apg, 1.5spg, 2bpg, 3.0TOpg could be a possibility for his season averages.

I think he may average another point or two thinking more like 26/27 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 4.5 apg, 2.7TOpg.

Since he's playing more 4 a career high in blocks and rebounds is definitely a possibility. GSW have more ballhandlers so i see KD maybe not dribbling in as much space as he use to which means maybe less than 3 turnovers a game but that might be thinking too optimistic.

Agreed with the blocks and rebounds.

He's talked about limiting his turnovers(last week to be exact). I can see him limiting them to 2.7pg, but he's careless at times so we'll see how it goes.

Wouldn't be surprised to see the ppg rise to 26/27.

StepBackCrack · Post #62 » by **StepBackCrack** » Sat Oct 29, 2016 2:32 pm

His turnovers will go down but no idea by how much. We will see.

StepBackCrack · Post #63 » by **StepBackCrack** » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:59 pm

His usage is 26% atm (compared to Curry's 30.8%). That's more than enough usage % for Durant to show his full potential on the court with his new team. In general, this season his usage % will go down from 30+% to 24-27% which is not bad at all for him.

picc · Post #64 » by **picc** » Sat Oct 29, 2016 7:17 pm

KD needs to spend time at the five, along with Green and McGee (yes mf'ers, I said McGee).

Zaza is a perfectly fine positional defending placeholder, but you need either height or athleticism to move the defensive needle at center and he has neither.

And about KD's isos, I would encourage GS fans to embrace them as opposed to getting worried. Isolation scoring has been a gigantic part of almost every title run in history. You guys asses just got busted in the finals by two guys who did it almost exclusively.

Guess what? Being able to score efficiently without needing a screen makes a HUGE difference. It makes it more difficult for a defense to just remove you from a play with traps. If Klay and Steph had been capable of just dominating their man one on one last spring the way Irving was, you'd be the ones holding the trophy right now. Even with all the other stuff that went on.

A few more KD isos in the games may not quite look as pretty, but it will make you better prepared to weather high level playoff competition.

StepBackCrack · Post #65 » by **StepBackCrack** » Sun Oct 30, 2016 12:38 am

picc wrote:KD needs to spend time at the five, along with Green and McGee (yes mf'ers, I said McGee).

Zaza is a perfectly fine positional defending placeholder, but you need either height or athleticism to move the defensive needle at center and he has neither.

And about KD's isos, I would encourage GS fans to embrace them as opposed to getting worried. Isolation scoring has been a gigantic part of almost every title run in history. You guys asses just got busted in the finals by two guys who did it almost exclusively.

Guess what? Being able to score efficiently without needing a screen makes a HUGE difference. It makes it more difficult for a defense to just remove you from a play with traps. If Klay and Steph had been capable of just dominating their man one on one last spring the way Irving was, you'd be the ones holding the trophy right now. Even with all the other stuff that went on.

A few more KD isos in the games may not quite look as pretty, but it will make you better prepared to weather high level playoff competition.

I always enjoy reading your posts.

totallystoked · Post #66 » by **totallystoked** » Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:46 am

It's far too early to detect any trends about Durant or the Warriors right now. Obviously, they're going to win 60+ games and are odds on favorites to be in the finals once again.

I do worry about their lack of a rim protector. The loss of bogut in the finals could be the factor that cost them the championship last season.

StepBackCrack · Post #67 » by **StepBackCrack** » Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:53 pm

totallystoked wrote:It's far too early to detect any trends about Durant or the Warriors right now. Obviously, they're going to win 60+ games and are odds on favorites to be in the finals once again.

I do worry about their lack of a rim protector. The loss of bogut in the finals could be the factor that cost them the championship last season.

They need an athletic center badly. Zaza won't cut it unfortunately.
That being said, they can only improve as a team. The season just started.

Dr Spaceman · Post #68 » by **Dr Spaceman** » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:29 pm

KD_Steph wrote:
totallystoked wrote:It's far too early to detect any trends about Durant or the Warriors right now. Obviously, they're going to win 60+ games and are odds on favorites to be in the finals once again.

I do worry about their lack of a rim protector. The loss of bogut in the finals could be the factor that cost them the championship last season.

They need an athletic center badly. Zaza won't cut it unfortunately.
That being said, they can only improve as a team. The season just started.

I haven't been able to catch any Warriors games, what's up with Zaza? He's reslly was the glue that held together a young, athletic Milwaukee unit that ended up being tops in the league in 2014. I wonder why he's not doing the same here? Has he just lost a step and fallen off?

Honestly I'd just give this one time to gel. He's one of the smartest defenders in the league and it's hard to picture him being more of a stiff than Bogut was. Unless he's being benched or something?

StepBackCrack · Post #69 » by **StepBackCrack** » Mon Oct 31, 2016 2:20 am

Loving his powerful dunks this season.

KD35Brah · Post #70 » by **KD35Brah** » Mon Oct 31, 2016 2:46 am

Should defnitely be in the MVP conversation, so far.

57% FG / 30% 3pt / 94% FT(11 per game)
31 Points per game (70% TS!)
10 rebounds per game
5 assists per game
3 steals per game
2 blocks per game
2 Turnovers per game

Ortg:
On court: 108.2
Off court: 87.7

Drtg:
On court: 103.9(best in starting lineup)
Off Court: 123.6

Netrtg:
On: 4.3
Off: -35.9

StepBackCrack · Post #71 » by **StepBackCrack** » Mon Oct 31, 2016 3:26 am

The 20+p streak continues to live another day.

StepBackCrack · Post #72 » by **StepBackCrack** » Mon Oct 31, 2016 3:32 am

KD35Brah wrote:Should defnitely be in the MVP conversation, so far.

57% FG / 30% 3pt / 94% FT(11 per game)
31 Points per game (70% TS!)
10 rebounds per game
5 assists per game
3 steals per game
2 blocks per game
2 Turnovers per game

Ortg:
On court: 108.2
Off court: 87.7

Drtg:
On court: 103.9(best in starting lineup)
Off Court: 123.6

Netrtg:
On: 4.3
Off: -35.9

Only his 3pt% needs to be fixed but that will come with more matches.
Just hope he stays healthy. This can easily be his best season.

GSP · Post #73 » by **GSP** » Mon Oct 31, 2016 3:42 am

KD_Steph wrote:The 20+p streak continues to live another day.

Oh **** i thought it ended last season.

Wonder how far he can go.

I think he will lose it this season when he has like 17, 18pts and they blow out a scrub team with him playing like 25-27mins

KD35Brah · Post #74 » by **KD35Brah** » Mon Oct 31, 2016 4:43 am

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DreDay · Post #75 » by **DreDay** » Mon Oct 31, 2016 8:29 am

He's been incredible so far, and he's only going to get better offensively, maybe not stats wise in terms of efficiency (hard to beat 70TS%) but moreso his impact and lift as everyone adjusts to him.

rcontador · Post #76 » by **rcontador** » Wed Nov 2, 2016 4:01 am

KD starts to play within the Warriors' system, and suddenly they look just as good as last year... but he only has 15 through the third quarter. I am confident that this team will eventually settle into their optimal offensive balance -- and it will be godly -- but I'm truly not sure how many shots KD will be taking in it. His preferred methods of scoring are simply too slow (in the half court) and too, well, selfish (on the break) for this team.

EDIT: A minute after I write this, KD tries to iso (but fails to get the ball) and then goes coast-to-coast all by himself. Guess he wants to get his numbers? That's not how the Warriors play, Kevin!

Wall34 · Post #77 » by **Wall34** » Wed Nov 2, 2016 4:32 am

rcontador wrote:KD starts to play within the Warriors' system, and suddenly they look just as good as last year... but he only has 15 through the third quarter. I am confident that this team will eventually settle into their optimal offensive balance -- and it will be godly -- but I'm truly not sure how many shots KD will be taking in it. His preferred methods of scoring are simply too slow (in the half court) and too, well, selfish (on the break) for this team.

EDIT: A minute after I write this, KD tries to iso (but fails to get the ball) and then goes coast-to-coast all by himself. Guess he wants to get his numbers? That's not how the Warriors play, Kevin!

KD can score within the flow of this offense man...You don't see any benefits of having a guy like KD you can give to ball to in the midpost with shooters like Curry and Klay spacing the floor? or how about when their moving and KD can dump it into the guys for easy scores...It's so much untap potential here man it's only been 4 games.

Ballerhogger · Post #78 » by **Ballerhogger** » Wed Nov 2, 2016 4:34 am

GSP wrote:
KD_Steph wrote:The 20+p streak continues to live another day.

Oh **** i thought it ended last season.

Wonder how far he can go.

I think he will lose it this season when he has like 17, 18pts and they blow out a scrub team with him playing like 25-27mins

Nope. He played in 4th with 27 pt lead.

rcontador · Post #79 » by **rcontador** » Wed Nov 2, 2016 5:05 am

Wall34 wrote:
rcontador wrote:KD starts to play within the Warriors' system, and suddenly they look just as good as last year... but he only has 15 through the third quarter. I am confident that this team will eventually settle into their optimal offensive balance -- and it will be godly -- but I'm truly not sure how many shots KD will be taking in it. His preferred methods of scoring are simply too slow (in the half court) and too, well, selfish (on the break) for this team.

EDIT: A minute after I write this, KD tries to iso (but fails to get the ball) and then goes coast-to-coast all by himself. Guess he wants to get his numbers? That's not how the Warriors play, Kevin!

KD can score within the flow of this offense man...You don't see any benefits of having a guy like KD you can give to ball to in the midpost with shooters like Curry and Klay spacing the floor? or how about when their moving and KD can dump it into the guys for easy scores...It's so much untap potential here man it's only been 4 games.

Of course he can score in the flow of offense, I'm just not sure he can score 25+. Is he ready to take a backseat to Steph?

Wall34 · Post #80 » by **Wall34** » Wed Nov 2, 2016 5:12 am

rcontador wrote:
Wall34 wrote:
rcontador wrote:KD starts to play within the Warriors' system, and suddenly they look just as good as last year... but he only has 15 through the third quarter. I am confident that this team will eventually settle into their optimal offensive balance -- and it will be godly -- but I'm truly not sure how many shots KD will be taking in it. His preferred methods of scoring are simply too slow (in the half court) and too, well, selfish (on the break) for this team.

EDIT: A minute after I write this, KD tries to iso (but fails to get the ball) and then goes coast-to-coast all by himself. Guess he wants to get his numbers? That's not how the Warriors play, Kevin!

KD can score within the flow of this offense man...You don't see any benefits of having a guy like KD you can give to ball to in the midpost with shooters like Curry and Klay spacing the floor? or how about when their moving and KD can dump it into the guys for easy scores...It's so much untap potential here man it's only been 4 games.

Of course he can score in the flow of offense, I'm just not sure he can score 25+. Is he ready to take a backseat to Steph?

He can score 25 in this offense and more with less shots...their going to feature him plus with the pace and forcing turnovers he's definitely going to get his.

They didn't bring him in to be Barnes 2.0 :lol: