Official Thread -- Wizards at Grizzlies (10/30/16)

[dandridge 10]

I really don't get everyone throwing Brooks under the bus immediately after two games. Not defending any of his choices, but at this point, you have to come to terms with the fact that the team just isn't that good. John is a low-tier All-Star that would be a 2nd banana or third wheel on a championship contender, and everybody else is just painfully average. You can't turn **** into gold.

Bingo.

[Tricky_Kid]

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[Jimmy Recard]

Dp

[popper]

Beal should have always been cast as a catch and shoot guard with an occasional drive to the basket. Never a ball handling playmaker or shot creator. Wall has immense talent but has never been able to stop ball penetration which guarantees that our bigs have to come off their man to help and thus create open looks and mismatches. I'd bet that of all starting PG in the league that Wall lets his man drive for more layups than any other. I don't blame the individual players, I blame GM and coaching for not understanding how to blend and coach a team. In defense of coaches, how can you pull Wall on the last possession even though you know his end of game success rate is aweful?

[Jimmy Recard]

I also don't believe in conspiracy theories and guys not liking playing with each other but starting to wonder now about Beal and Wall. Like there's a rivalry or jealousy or something out there. I do wonder if John is jealous of Brad's deal and if Brad is jealous that John is an All-Star and gets to take the last shot 99% of the time.

It would explain why they never seem to both have good games at the same time. When one of them plays well, the other stands in the corner and disengages himself from the offense.

Notice during that second half stretch when Wall had it going, Beal was nowhere to be seen and looked lifeless when the camera was on him? That's the problem with all these guys, especially the younger ones, unless their actively getting touches or contributing on the scoreboard, they don't know how to impact the game elsewhere.

If Kelly is upset that he didn't come into the game until late in the first, he's not gonna win the coaches over anytime soon with his body language out there. He moped around all game like a zombie and wasn't engaged at all until his and1.

Pathetic defensive effort from everyone and it starts with wall

[jangles86]

This team is John Walls. If it fails it should be on him.

He needs to deliver wins this season or we need to replace him with a new franchise player.

[BigA]

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[Dark Faze]

AgaiN... Wall is a facilitator forced to be more because nobody else can create a shot.

And yes he's an all-star but not mvp potential... But if you had two more guys like him wed be good

[gambitx777]

AgaiN... Wall is a facilitator forced to be more because nobody else can create a shot.

And yes he's an all-star but not mvp potential... But if you had two more guys like him wed be good

Sato can get his own shot. and score, and do everything if he plays more than 1 minute a game'

[deneem4]

AgaiN... Wall is a facilitator forced to be more because nobody else can create a shot.

And yes he's an all-star but not mvp potential... But if you had two more guys like him wed be good

Wall is more than a facilitator!
He can score at will when he tries consistently
Maybe its his stamina or his team or the duty he feels
But when he make himself a 1st option he ones of the better 1st options in the league...
He should've reviewed his game tape from 3 yr ago vs the grizzlies...
Don't pass 1st wall
score 1st wall...pasa 2nd...

Also...a keynote...gortat need to get down the floor and let wall get some of those rebounds...it's what help adams a lot with westbrook...it was more than 3 possessions where wall was literally on the same rebound as gortat...
Small things.... but adams is great at trailing westbrook...honestly that whole team is great at trailing westbrook....it's like it's designed to be spaced when he comes down the court....
*I mention Westbrook cause Scott brooks was the team former coach

[closg00]

When did Gasol become trey shooting center?

[montestewart]

When did Gasol become trey shooting center?

Yesterday. The most 3 pointers he ever had in a season was three, with fourteen total before last night's game, in this his ninth season.

The Washington Wizards: Setting Records Against Us Wherever We Go

[dobrojim]

yesterday was suck as far as my teams go

Slurs tied. (shoulda won)

Beagles (yes I like both the Beagles and the slurs but espcially despise DAL) lost in OT (shoulda won)

Buzzards lost in OT (shoulda won)

[nate33]

I'm not giving up on Beal yet, but I'm close. I think he might be just too nice a kid, maybe too religious to be an assassin on the floor. Maybe he needs to call Steph Curry, who is very religious but kicks ass on the floor. It's all mental with him. Dude you got your contract and now you seem to be pressing. I'm starting to fear a Juwan Howard situation where he starts pressing at home and the fans start to boo him. He becomes the scapegoat. Hope it doesn't come to that but it's starting to feel a little like Juwan. Good player but not worthy of superstar deal.

The problem with Beal is that he really isn't that great of a shooter. Everything else about his game is fine. He's tries to attack the rim when appropriate. He plays hard on D (except for much of last year). He plays within the offense. He passes well. He rebounds adequately for his position. He finishes well on the break. In fact, I'd say he has made great strides this season in his ball handling and footwork to allow him to get to the rim much better. Overall he LOOKS good.

But if you look at the numbers, he is an utterly mediocre shooter from midrange and from the free throw line. And even his 3P%, while looking respectable on the percentages, is tainted by a low volume of attempts. There are lots of NBA players who can hit 39% from behind the arc if they only shoot when wide open.

Beal's career average on long 2's is 35%. Most power forwards shoot better than that. His 78% FT% last year ranked 50th out of 70 players 6-3 to 6-7 with 1500 minutes played. His shooting sure hasn't improved so far this season either.

Ask anyone about John Wall and they'll tell you he's a great player with an Achilles heel of being a poor shooter. That's a pretty fair and accurate assessment. Now consider that John Wall shot BETTER than Bradley Beal on long 2's last year, and shot just 3% worse on 3-pointers despite 82% of his makes being unassisted. So how in the hell does Beal get a reputation for being a great shooter?

[AFM]

I'm not giving up on Beal yet, but I'm close. I think he might be just too nice a kid, maybe too religious to be an assassin on the floor. Maybe he needs to call Steph Curry, who is very religious but kicks ass on the floor. It's all mental with him. Dude you got your contract and now you seem to be pressing. I'm starting to fear a Juwan Howard situation where he starts pressing at home and the fans start to boo him. He becomes the scapegoat. Hope it doesn't come to that but it's starting to feel a little like Juwan. Good player but not worthy of superstar deal.

The problem with Beal is that he really isn't that great of a shooter. Everything else about his game is fine. He's tries to attack the rim when appropriate. He plays hard on D (except for much of last year). He plays within the offense. He passes well. He rebounds adequately for his position. He finishes well on the break. In fact, I'd say he has made great strides this season in his ball handling and footwork to allow him to get to the rim much better. Overall he LOOKS good.

But if you look at the numbers, he is an utterly mediocre shooter from midrange and from the free throw line. And even his 3P%, while looking respectable on the percentages, is tainted by a low volume of attempts. There are lots of NBA players who can hit 39% from behind the arc if they only shoot when wide open.

Beal's career average on long 2's is 35%. Most power forwards shoot better than that. His 78% FT% last year ranked 50th out of 70 players 6-3 to 6-7 with 1500 minutes played. His shooting sure hasn't improved so far this season either.

Ask anyone about John Wall and they'll tell you he's a great player with an Achilles heel of being a poor shooter. That's a pretty fair and accurate assessment. Now consider that John Wall shot BETTER than Bradley Beal on long 2's last year, and shot just 3% worse on 3-pointers despite 82% of his makes being unassisted. So how in the hell does Beal get a reputation for being a great shooter?

Beal has the prettiest jumper in the league, while Wall's looks like he's throwing his dirty laundry in the hamper.

[montestewart]

I'm not giving up on Beal yet, but I'm close. I think he might be just too nice a kid, maybe too religious to be an assassin on the floor. Maybe he needs to call Steph Curry, who is very religious but kicks ass on the floor. It's all mental with him. Dude you got your contract and now you seem to be pressing. I'm starting to fear a Juwan Howard situation where he starts pressing at home and the fans start to boo him. He becomes the scapegoat. Hope it doesn't come to that but it's starting to feel a little like Juwan. Good player but not worthy of superstar deal.

The problem with Beal is that he really isn't that great of a shooter. Everything else about his game is fine. He's tries to attack the rim when appropriate. He plays hard on D (except for much of last year). He plays within the offense. He passes well. He rebounds adequately for his position. He finishes well on the break. In fact, I'd say he has made great strides this season in his ball handling and footwork to allow him to get to the rim much better. Overall he LOOKS good.

But if you look at the numbers, he is an utterly mediocre shooter from midrange and from the free throw line. And even his 3P%, while looking respectable on the percentages, is tainted by a low volume of attempts. There are lots of NBA players who can hit 39% from behind the arc if they only shoot when wide open.

Beal's career average on long 2's is 35%. Most power forwards shoot better than that. His 78% FT% last year ranked 50th out of 70 players 6-3 to 6-7 with 1500 minutes played. His shooting sure hasn't improved so far this season either.

Ask anyone about John Wall and they'll tell you he's a great player with an Achilles heel of being a poor shooter. That's a pretty fair and accurate assessment. Now consider that John Wall shot BETTER than Bradley Beal on long 2's last year, and shot just 3% worse on 3-pointers despite 82% of his makes being unassisted. So how in the hell does Beal get a reputation for being a great shooter?

Didn't he shoot .333 from behind the college line? I remember being concerned about that when he was first being positioned as the Wizards' pick.

Just acting like you were here all along.

[Ruzious]

When did Gasol become trey shooting center?

When the Wiz left him so wide open that an average YMCA player could make a good percentage of them. Memphis' 3 point shooting wasn't outstanding because they're particularly good shooters. It was outstanding because the Wiz defense generally gave them plenty of room and plenty of time to shoot.

[CobraCommander]

Beal is 2-2 from the FT line.

The reasons I DISAGREE STRONGLY deneem4 are: 1) Beal takes few FTs. 2) Beal doesn't convert the few fts he takes at a high rate.

He's no James Harden when it comes to attacking the basket.

I dont know what Beal does well...Beal isn't elite at anything..

He's IMO a nice-looking young man who I do believe is a person of faith.

He LOOKS the part.

The ONLY thing he does REAL WELL is convert three point shots at a high percentage.

You have to make the 3s when it matters...like when the game is in the balance-

[payitforward]

AgaiN... Wall is a facilitator forced to be more because nobody else can create a shot.

And yes he's an all-star but not mvp potential... But if you had two more guys like him wed be good

Sato can get his own shot. and score, and do everything if he plays more than 1 minute a game'

Actually, you haven't got the faintest notion what Tomas Satoransky can do as an NBA player, or how well he can do it. How would you have? Not you, not anyone.

But it would be nice to find out, wouldn't it?

[gambitx777]

AgaiN... Wall is a facilitator forced to be more because nobody else can create a shot.

And yes he's an all-star but not mvp potential... But if you had two more guys like him wed be good

Sato can get his own shot. and score, and do everything if he plays more than 1 minute a game'

Actually, you haven't got the faintest notion what Tomas Satoransky can do as an NBA player, or how well he can do it. How would you have? Not you, not anyone.

But it would be nice to find out, wouldn't it?

You can say sure he has to adjust to the speed of the game, or the rules or the level of players hes playing aginst, or the 3 point line.
But I have watched hundreds of minutes of this dude playing in Europe. A high level European league at that. He has the skill and instincts to create his own shot, he can shoot, he can pass, he has great court vision. I can say he can do all of those things because he can . Yes he needs to adjust but if you have the skill and the athleticism with practice you will get the american game