Alex Len

[Beetlejuice]

I think his added muscle has made him too slow and he has lost a lot of his jumping/leaping ability. His slowness is showing up in defensive metrics.

I would take pushover Len over whatever Len we have now (a tree?).

[Dr Manute]

* Rudy Gobert Agrees To Four-Year, $102M Deal With Jazz

* Steven Adams, Thunder Finalizing Four-Year, $100M Extension

Looks like Alex Len will be a free agent

[Qwigglez]

Len better not even get what Dieng got.

[lilfishi22]

$40m/4 is what he's worth right now

[Saberestar]

I like that we aren't extending Len at a high salary. Imagine if he continues to play like this first three games of the season for the rest of his career at $18M per year (for example). It would be a big mistake and painful to watch.

Next summer we will have the option to match any offer if he develops over the year.

[lilfishi22]

I like that we aren't extending Len at a high salary. Imagine if he continues to play like this first three games of the season for the rest of his career at $18M per year (for example). It would be a big mistake and painful to watch.

Next summer we will have the option to match any offer if he develops over the year.

100%

We hold all the cards here. If he plays well, he'll be offered what he's worth in the open market. We make our decision then.

[AtheJ415]

I think we'll end up giving him 12-13. It will end up going like Bledsoe's FA where nobody who has the cap space needs him so he sits and eventually settles in between our offer (probably like 11) and what he wants (probably like 16).

[kennydorglas]

Give him the Chandler's contract and call it a day.
I guess we cant afford to lose our 'golden boy' for nothing, so there's it.

[TeamTragic]

I think we'll end up giving him 12-13. It will end up going like Bledsoe's FA where nobody who has the cap space needs him so he sits and eventually settles in between our offer (probably like 11) and what he wants (probably like 16).

Why do we offer him a new contract? What has he done for this team? He doesn't rebound and hasn't improved defensively. I just cannot fathom why we would waste cap space on him.

Mason Plumlee
Nerlens Noel
Jahlil Okafor

The above players are available either via trade or during free agency. Are we just giving away contracts with no purpose in mind?

[AtheJ415]

I think we'll end up giving him 12-13. It will end up going like Bledsoe's FA where nobody who has the cap space needs him so he sits and eventually settles in between our offer (probably like 11) and what he wants (probably like 16).

Why do we offer him a new contract? What has he done for this team? He doesn't rebound and hasn't improved defensively. I just cannot fathom why we would waste cap space on him.

Mason Plumlee
Nerlens Noel
Jahlil Okafor

The above players are available either via trade or during free agency. Are we just giving away contracts with no purpose in mind?

The above players cost cap space (and more than Len will cost) and also assets on top of it. If Philly was looking to give Noel or Okafor away, they would've already done it. If you want to trade the Miami picks or Warren or one of our PFs go for it. I'd rather not do that though. Also, we need 2 centers imo because Tyson doesn't fit the rest of the team. I don't think signing Len does anything as far as that goes.

And yes, I would rather give Len 12-13 than Okafor 25. That's what he will cost when he hits FA. Take a look at comparable players and their deals. Mozgov and Plumlee and every other big who is an FA except DMo got huge deals and DMo only didn't because of his back.

If you want to go bargain basement via the draft and spend money on a less costly position, that's a viable strategy, but not one of the guys you listed fits that. The guys you listed are going to cost epic amounts except for Plumlee who will probably still get 18 or so. He's better than Miles and Miles got 16.

If you can get Noel or Okafor for just Knight, then awesome. But I doubt that's an option at all or it would be done already.

[AtheJ415]

Give him the Chandler's contract and call it a day.
I guess we cant afford to lose our 'golden boy' for nothing, so there's it.

That's the thing. Tyson's at 12 and he is a worse fit for the current team than Len while also having no upside and being a decade older and people want to move Len to build around Tyson. Don't get it. The obvious move here imo is to move Chandler, give Len Chandler's deal, then make a secondary move for another center that you can develop in case Len stops his personal growth as a player. We could do this with a draft pick such as Miami's 2018 pick or via FA or a trade for a guy teams have given up on (somebody who fits Biyombo's bill from last year). I'd love to grab Noel and Okafor but that will all depend on the price and I just don't think it's as low as some are suggesting here.

[TeamTragic]

I think we'll end up giving him 12-13. It will end up going like Bledsoe's FA where nobody who has the cap space needs him so he sits and eventually settles in between our offer (probably like 11) and what he wants (probably like 16).

Why do we offer him a new contract? What has he done for this team? He doesn't rebound and hasn't improved defensively. I just cannot fathom why we would waste cap space on him.

Mason Plumlee
Nerlens Noel
Jahlil Okafor

The above players are available either via trade or during free agency. Are we just giving away contracts with no purpose in mind?

The above players cost cap space (and more than Len will cost) and also assets on top of it. If Philly was looking to give Noel or Okafor away, they would've already done it. If you want to trade the Miami picks or Warren or one of our PFs go for it. I'd rather not do that though. Also, we need 2 centers imo because Tyson doesn't fit the rest of the team. I don't think signing Len does anything as far as that goes.

And yes, I would rather give Len 12-13 than Okafor 25. That's what he will cost when he hits FA. Take a look at comparable players and their deals. Mozgov and Plumlee and every other big who is an FA except DMo got huge deals and DMo only didn't because of his back.

If you want to go bargain basement via the draft and spend money on a less costly position, that's a viable strategy, but not one of the guys you listed fits that. The guys you listed are going to cost epic amounts except for Plumlee who will probably still get 18 or so. He's better than Miles and Miles got 16.

If you can get Noel or Okafor for just Knight, then awesome. But I doubt that's an option at all or it would be done already.

How do we know until we make Len available? You are making assumptions. I'm not sure what this has to do with Warren. If we need to attach players/picks then we have that luxury.

I'm just saying that I would rather have a high impact player that costs an extra 10M then a low impact player that hasn't improved after multiple seasons. Right now Chandler has played better than Len. Why rush and give out a new contract?

[Bogyo]

Right now, he is not even worth the Dieng contract in my eyes. If he doesn't take a 10-12 mill contract I'd rather have him take the QO.

[AtheJ415]

Why do we offer him a new contract? What has he done for this team? He doesn't rebound and hasn't improved defensively. I just cannot fathom why we would waste cap space on him.

Mason Plumlee
Nerlens Noel
Jahlil Okafor

The above players are available either via trade or during free agency. Are we just giving away contracts with no purpose in mind?

The above players cost cap space (and more than Len will cost) and also assets on top of it. If Philly was looking to give Noel or Okafor away, they would've already done it. If you want to trade the Miami picks or Warren or one of our PFs go for it. I'd rather not do that though. Also, we need 2 centers imo because Tyson doesn't fit the rest of the team. I don't think signing Len does anything as far as that goes.

And yes, I would rather give Len 12-13 than Okafor 25. That's what he will cost when he hits FA. Take a look at comparable players and their deals. Mozgov and Plumlee and every other big who is an FA except DMo got huge deals and DMo only didn't because of his back.

If you want to go bargain basement via the draft and spend money on a less costly position, that's a viable strategy, but not one of the guys you listed fits that. The guys you listed are going to cost epic amounts except for Plumlee who will probably still get 18 or so. He's better than Miles and Miles got 16.

If you can get Noel or Okafor for just Knight, then awesome. But I doubt that's an option at all or it would be done already.

How do we know until we make Len available? You are making assumptions. I'm not sure what this has to do with Warren. If we need to attach players/picks then we have that luxury.

I'm just saying that I would rather have a high impact player that costs an extra 10M then a low impact player that hasn't improved after multiple seasons. Right now Chandler has played better than Len. Why rush and give out a new contract?

I'm making reasonable assumptions based on actual signed contracts and player value. It's not unreasonable to think okafor and Noel get near max offers or that Mason plumLee gets more than miles plumlee.

You want Noel who is due for an extension or okafor who is a clear max candidate. Both will get much more than Len and both are under contract with another team having control and would require assets to make them give them up. Warren or Bender or yes, even Nooker are the type theyd ask about. And if not him or our other youngsters, then yes picks. Having the luxury to attach picks doesn't mean you should, particularly when you are drafting at a high level. The pick gets you a rookie scale player further from extension.

Trading for the privilege of maxing out okafor or Noel while attaching assets scares the bajesus out of me. I'd rather overpay in fa than overpay on an extension while throwing assets into the mix.

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[Sonne]

just release him like goodwin

[DaleyBlind]

Mason PLumlee would be awesome on our team, id give him 15-16 a year, and let Len leave. Portland would most likely match though wont they

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Mason PLumlee would be awesome on our team, id give him 15-16 a year, and let Len leave. Portland would most likely match though wont they

Thought Alex bested him in their preseason matchup... I think we're overreacting a bit here.

[Saberestar]

Mason PLumlee would be awesome on our team, id give him 15-16 a year, and let Len leave. Portland would most likely match though wont they

Mason Plumlee is a good C. He is a great passer for a big man and understands his role perfectly. He rebounds, defends and pass the ball....that is perfect for a team with 2 players on the perimeter that can average 20 points per game like Booker and Warren here in the next few years.
Similar to Noah some years back but with worse overall defense.

He probably wanted that $100M/4 years that Adams and Gobert got this week, so he is gonna wait to get his money next summer. I think that he is gonna receive at least $80/4 years...and in this market he deserves that.

[LacosteM]

I think Meyers Leonard contract (41 M/4 YR) seems about right for Len, altought I'd be hesitant to offer him one considering he showed minimal to zero improvement so far. As GoranTragic stated above, I'd rather take my chances with Nerlens Noel. Just imagine the versatility on defense that Noel/Bender pairing could provide for this team 2-3 years from now.

[Midnight_Suns]

I don't want Len for anything more than 7mil a year. He is an average backup at best.