Back again: Getting OKC a wing

[bwgood77]

Brown is the #3 pick and has a higher upside than anyone on the Nuggets.

I don't know how else to say this.

This is a really dumb take. Mudiay? Murray? Jokic?

He's really high on Brown. That's unlikely to change despite any discussion so discussion regarding it is likely pointless.

[Mich3006]

OKC should look to aquire a guy like Rudy Gay, that´s the only wing with solid game who´d be available without trading key assets

[bondom34]

Agree with the above.

[HartfordWhalers]

I'm not sold that Gay is available. Having watched their last game, he is the only player not named Cousins who can create or score. And they want to be competitive. I think Gay might just get enough touches and shots to be some version of happy, and the Kings might get enough offense out of him to be some version of happy, and the whole thing is setting up for a Gay re-signing next summer that will leave a bunch of us wondering wait what just happened. (And then blow up 6 months later).

[Texas Chuck]

I'm not sold that Gay is available. Having watched their last game, he is the only player not named Cousins who can create or score. And they want to be competitive. I think Gay might just get enough touches and shots to be some version of happy, and the Kings might get enough offense out of him to be some version of happy, and the whole thing is setting up for a Gay re-signing next summer that will leave a bunch of us wondering wait what just happened. (And then blow up 6 months later).

I still think he's available, but you are going to have to provide the Kings with a guy who can replace his offense. Tough to get him to OKC without a 3rd team.

[penbeast0]

Thornton is a wing and Wiz Board fans would be happy to deal him but you are going to have to give us a couple of legs back. Original recipe please.

[Andre Roberstan]

Thornton is a wing and Wiz Board fans would be happy to deal him but you are going to have to give us a couple of legs back. Original recipe please.

Could you see Porter or Oubre coming available at some point?

[SV1113]

Bojan Bogdanovic & Chris Mccollugh for Kanter and Payne

thunder giving up more talent, but Nets take on a huge amount of salary to make this work

[bondom34]

Bojan Bogdanovic & Chris Mccollugh for Kanter and Payne

thunder giving up more talent, but Nets take on a huge amount of salary to make this work

There's no reason for OKC to give up talent to drop salary. They're not in the tax and won't create enough space to do anything with it.

[spearsy23]

I'm not sold that Gay is available. Having watched their last game, he is the only player not named Cousins who can create or score. And they want to be competitive. I think Gay might just get enough touches and shots to be some version of happy, and the Kings might get enough offense out of him to be some version of happy, and the whole thing is setting up for a Gay re-signing next summer that will leave a bunch of us wondering wait what just happened. (And then blow up 6 months later).

I still think he's available, but you are going to have to provide the Kings with a guy who can replace his offense. Tough to get him to OKC without a 3rd team.

I think he's available, but you'll have to pay full price.SInce People have always questioned rather or not he was worth it to begin with, I just don't see a way he gets traded unless/ until the kings fall out of the playoff picture and are willing to part with him at a mini discount.

[Texas Chuck]

Bojan Bogdanovic & Chris Mccollugh for Kanter and Payne

thunder giving up more talent, but Nets take on a huge amount of salary to make this work

There's no reason for OKC to give up talent to drop salary. They're not in the tax and won't create enough space to do anything with it.

The Thunder would need to have another deal lined up taking advantage of the big Kanter TPE because you could structure that deal to give OKC a TPE for his full contract.

I don't know what player who'd make much difference would be available tho just for taking on his contract since the Thunder have no assets left to attach to it.

[penbeast0]

Thornton is a wing and Wiz Board fans would be happy to deal him but you are going to have to give us a couple of legs back. Original recipe please.

Could you see Porter or Oubre coming available at some point?

Could I, sure, just as you could see Adams or Oladipo coming available. But, likely, no. Other than big money Beal, they are about the only developmental talent on the team that could improve and the team needs to improve so they would probably be overvalued by the Wiz.

[JoJoEmbiid]

So wait, it matters Okafor got into it with a fan on the street and not Smart on the court? That's an odd standard.

You just became my favorite person on realgm.

[becorz]

I'm not sold that Gay is available. Having watched their last game, he is the only player not named Cousins who can create or score. And they want to be competitive. I think Gay might just get enough touches and shots to be some version of happy, and the Kings might get enough offense out of him to be some version of happy, and the whole thing is setting up for a Gay re-signing next summer that will leave a bunch of us wondering wait what just happened. (And then blow up 6 months later).

I still think he's available, but you are going to have to provide the Kings with a guy who can replace his offense. Tough to get him to OKC without a 3rd team.

I think he's available, but you'll have to pay full price.SInce People have always questioned rather or not he was worth it to begin with, I just don't see a way he gets traded unless/ until the kings fall out of the playoff picture and are willing to part with him at a mini discount.

I think the Kings, at this point, would have to fall WAY out of the playoff picture for Gay to be available, given the type of assets teams might be willing to give for him. I have watched all the Kings games this year and he is the only one on the team who can get offense on their own. MAYBE this gets better once Collison gets back (Temple is definitely not a playmaker and Lawson has been playing with Gay and Cousins) but I really don't see it happening. If the Kings are in the hunt, then they would have to get a scorer back and I don't think that is available. But if they are way out of the race, I could see him traded for picks. But the optimistic Kings fan in me says the team will be within striking distance of the 8 seed all year.

[bleeds_purple]

I'm not sold that Gay is available. Having watched their last game, he is the only player not named Cousins who can create or score. And they want to be competitive. I think Gay might just get enough touches and shots to be some version of happy, and the Kings might get enough offense out of him to be some version of happy, and the whole thing is setting up for a Gay re-signing next summer that will leave a bunch of us wondering wait what just happened. (And then blow up 6 months later).

I still think he's available, but you are going to have to provide the Kings with a guy who can replace his offense. Tough to get him to OKC without a 3rd team.

Can't see us moving Gay at this point. Our position of need is PF. I'll certainly get flamed for saying this but moving Gay would require us getting a package back along the lines of Millsap and Korver. In other words, he's not going to get traded so long as we believe we're in the playoff hunt.

And its pretty much exactly as stated above, he's too important for us as a scorer right now and he's honestly playing the best two-way ball of his career through five games. Rather refreshing having a coach who actually tailors the system toward his best players. What a crazy concept!

[nowyouknow]

Brown is the #3 pick and has a higher upside than anyone on the Nuggets.

I don't know how else to say this.

This is a really dumb take. Mudiay? Murray? Jokic?

He's really high on Brown. That's unlikely to change despite any discussion so discussion regarding it is likely pointless.

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Sorry in advance, and please feel free to love this into the Celtics related thread but I felt I should just leave this here.

[Andre Roberstan]

Hey, anyone remember Michael Carter-Williams and the first 3 games of his rookie season?

yeah me neither

[nowyouknow]

This would be both an attack and derailing. Take a break.

[NashtyNas]

N.Mirotic, D.McDermott, C.Payne to Denver
Kanter, Singler, Barton, OKC 1st to CHI
Lopez, Chandler, Grant to OKC

Westbrook/Grant
Oladipo/Morrow
Chandler/Roberson
Sabonis/Ilyasova
Adams/Lopez

DEN might say no because Murray's probably not ready to start or play 30 minutes a game yet and therefore Barton is probably too important right now. In my fantasy world, I really like that for all teams though - playing Jokic and Nurkic together is an experiment that needs to stop.

[Andre Roberstan]

N.Mirotic, D.McDermott, C.Payne to Denver
Kanter, Singler, Barton, OKC 1st to CHI
Lopez, Chandler, Grant to OKC

Westbrook/Grant
Oladipo/Morrow
Chandler/Roberson
Sabonis/Ilyasova
Adams/Lopez

DEN might say no because Murray's probably not ready to start or play 30 minutes a game yet and therefore Barton is probably too important right now. In my fantasy world, I really like that for all teams though - playing Jokic and Nurkic together is an experiment that needs to stop.

I kind of like this for CHI and OKC, though I doubt CHI would go for it. This doesn't directionally seem like something that DEN would do—IMO they're looking more for consolidation trades than anything else, and the pieces they get back aren't as good as the ones they send out.