Knicks-Rockets PG: Who didn't see this coming?

[Jalen Bluntson]

Everything we was getting blasted for has come to light. The KP homers are still fighting hard, but alot of them are dealing with reality now.

What are you clowns trying to say here? These comments are ridiculous

Only Clown here is you. Make sure you clean your red nose.... You been wearing it your whole life and its dirty.

It's probably cleaner than the dress you have on. Clown.

[blueNorange]

Everything we was getting blasted for has come to light. The KP homers are still fighting hard, but alot of them are dealing with reality now.

Yup he looks sluggish, weak and he's playing soft. My worst nightmare honestly. The kid needs to get it together. Oddly enough his fans can only blame Melo. KP needs to look in the mirror and get his **** together.

He better get it together quick because you know what, if this thing doesn't work out and we end up blowing this bish up and KP is given the keys to the franchise, he will be left alone and guess who the spotlight will be on then? Porzingis! And oh boy is he going to feel the pressure then. Right now he has Melo and to some degree Rose to take away the pressure but can you imagine him going through these struggles without those guys around?

He should be grateful that Melo is still around to deflect the criticism away from him because boy I tell you the kid would be hearing a lot of talk of "BUST" right about now if he was the face of the franchise.

[HEZI]

He shot 84% last year.

He's shooting 70% this year

Towns is at 59% - next.

Does Towns play for the Knicks? No? Then Idgaf

[blueNorange]

from marbury to isiah to crawful to curry to melo

there's always a crappy popular figure that always separates this forum.

[Wolfgang630]

That's Porzingis fault of course. He should've ran through the Piston player and Noah to stop Morris from scoring...lol I mean come on. All Knicks players are accountable.

Like I stated before basketball 101 there are two problems with that play. First the aggressive pressure by Melo allowing the blow by. Fault goes there. Then either Noah or KP have to rotate that is team basketball. I have never seen 2 seven footers standing on the opposite block watching an offensive player take a couple dribbles and a couple steps and not rotate over. I am not pointing blame at KP or Noah on that play but AT BOTH OF THEM one of them has to rotate over that is called team basketball. Neither did it so both are to blame and just as at fault as Melo on that play. Defense is more reliant on team defense than individual defense. All three players did a terrible job on that play. ALL THREE PLAYERS.

Yes, that's why I said all players are accountable. Some guys keep attacking KP only like Melo or Noah are playing superb defense. I'm trying to say there's a bigger issue here that goes probably beyond the players. If they're having offensive problems it can impact the defense. If someone like Courtney Lee (who's known more for defense) is saying "we practice against the triangle and need to practice again PnR", then there's a problem with someone above the players.

Idk what they're teaching these guys and if they're giving them confusing messages because Hornacek says one thing, then Phil comes in to teach another thing.

The players are held accountable too because you would expect them to know who they're playing against and the veterans on the team have done this song and dance for 10 years now, but still there's some problem within.

[blueNorange]

He's shooting 70% this year

Towns is at 59% - next.

Does Towns play for the Knicks? No? Then Idgaf

i've noticed that when facts get thrown at you, you go to the 'i don't care' card ... such a donald trump move.

[ChaosHamster]

Everything we was getting blasted for has come to light. The KP homers are still fighting hard, but alot of them are dealing with reality now.

Yup he looks sluggish, weak and he's playing soft. My worst nightmare honestly. The kid needs to get it together. Oddly enough his fans can only blame Melo. KP needs to look in the mirror and get his **** together.

He better get it together quick because you know what, if this thing doesn't work out and we end up blowing this bish up and KP is given the keys to the franchise, he will be left alone and guess who the spotlight will be on then? Porzingis! And oh boy is he going to feel the pressure then. Right now he has Melo and to some degree Rose to take away the pressure but can you imagine him going through these struggles without those guys around?

He should be grateful that Melo is still around to deflect the criticism away from him because boy I tell you the kid would be hearing a lot of talk of "BUST" right about now if he was the face of the franchise.

What pressure? If in the middle of the year, Porzingis is the best player on this team, only complete morons will expect anything from them.

It will be, as it should've been from the start, all about his development.

And yeah, of course there will always be silly dudes like you and this apple guy, who will be jumping on him after every unimpressive night, even when the main goal would be him to learn..

[NOOB77]

from marbury to isiah to crawful to curry to melo

there's always a crappy popular figure that always separates this forum.

to Gallo and Chandler there are always people on this forum pitting our players against each other

[Rotten Apple]

Everything we was getting blasted for has come to light. The KP homers are still fighting hard, but alot of them are dealing with reality now.

Yup he looks sluggish, weak and he's playing soft. My worst nightmare honestly. The kid needs to get it together. Oddly enough his fans can only blame Melo. KP needs to look in the mirror and get his **** together.

He better get it together quick because you know what, if this thing doesn't work out and we end up blowing this bish up and KP is given the keys to the franchise, he will be left alone and guess who the spotlight will be on then? Porzingis! And oh boy is he going to feel the pressure then. Right now he has Melo and to some degree Rose to take away the pressure but can you imagine him going through these struggles without those guys around?

He should be grateful that Melo is still around to deflect the criticism away from him because boy I tell you the kid would be hearing a lot of talk of "BUST" right about now if he was the face of the franchise.

Yup, he would be the front of all the blame for the poor play. But between Phil, Melo and the triangle he's protected to a degree.

[Mecca]

Do you clowns understand the game of basketball? KP is not a bust. Remember what happened to gallo when he was playing with ball dominant selfish players? He got shunned and sat in the corner for spot up 3's. KP's growth is being stunted with Rose and Melo, and his more European attitude towards the game is causing him to be a 3rd banana. Our record would be 3-1 if we were a PnR team or Jennings ran the uptempo offense.

[god shammgod]

gallo's "success" may not be the best example. i'm just saying.

[NOOB77]

Do you clowns understand the game of basketball? KP is not a bust. Remember what happened to gallo when he was playing with ball dominant selfish players? He got shunned and sat in the corner for spot up 3's. KP's growth is being stunted with Rose and Melo, and his more European attitude towards the game is causing him to be a 3rd banana. Our record would be 3-1 if we were a PnR team or Jennings ran the uptempo offense.

Always someone elses fault. KP has had 3 bad games. Did they stunt his growth against Memphis. ?? Why can't people just say like he has played bad to start the season. It is his fault not others. Always looking to blame someone else. KP started the season bad same with Melo and Rose.


Did Melo stunt his growth last year? Or is that only this year? I am confused?

[Rotten Apple]

Yup he looks sluggish, weak and he's playing soft. My worst nightmare honestly. The kid needs to get it together. Oddly enough his fans can only blame Melo. KP needs to look in the mirror and get his **** together.

He better get it together quick because you know what, if this thing doesn't work out and we end up blowing this bish up and KP is given the keys to the franchise, he will be left alone and guess who the spotlight will be on then? Porzingis! And oh boy is he going to feel the pressure then. Right now he has Melo and to some degree Rose to take away the pressure but can you imagine him going through these struggles without those guys around?

He should be grateful that Melo is still around to deflect the criticism away from him because boy I tell you the kid would be hearing a lot of talk of "BUST" right about now if he was the face of the franchise.

What pressure? If in the middle of the year, Porzingis is the best player on this team, only complete morons will expect anything from them.

It will be, as it should've been from the start, all about his development.

And yeah, of course there will always be silly dudes like you and this apple guy, who will be jumping on him after every unimpressive night, even when the main goal would be him to learn..

The main goal for YOU. We are KNICKS fans, NEW YORK KNICKS FANS. We want all of our players to play well. Not just one. The world doesn't revolved around Porzingis.

He's playing like **** and y'all can't even admit that

Btw Apple guy? Put some respeck on my name and I ain't gon say it no mo

[god shammgod]

i actually think the main goal is for kp to play well. he aint tho. i don't care if derrick rose sucks, i expected as much. but not you kp. you coulda been somebody.

[Mecca]

Do you clowns understand the game of basketball? KP is not a bust. Remember what happened to gallo when he was playing with ball dominant selfish players? He got shunned and sat in the corner for spot up 3's. KP's growth is being stunted with Rose and Melo, and his more European attitude towards the game is causing him to be a 3rd banana. Our record would be 3-1 if we were a PnR team or Jennings ran the uptempo offense.

Always someone elses fault. KP has had 3 bad games. Did they stunt his growth against Memphis. ?? Why can't people just say like he has played bad to start the season. It is his fault not others. Always looking to blame someone else. KP started the season bad same with Melo and Rose.


Did Melo stunt his growth last year? Or is that only this year? I am confused?

Melo and KP are poor fits together. I have no problem saying that.

KP isn't being developed properly, as he's taken the role of the 3rd banana after Rose and Melo get theres. And when Rose/Melo get theres, it's because they had to create there own shot, so the ball movement isn't fluid.

[HEZI]

Yup he looks sluggish, weak and he's playing soft. My worst nightmare honestly. The kid needs to get it together. Oddly enough his fans can only blame Melo. KP needs to look in the mirror and get his **** together.

He better get it together quick because you know what, if this thing doesn't work out and we end up blowing this bish up and KP is given the keys to the franchise, he will be left alone and guess who the spotlight will be on then? Porzingis! And oh boy is he going to feel the pressure then. Right now he has Melo and to some degree Rose to take away the pressure but can you imagine him going through these struggles without those guys around?

He should be grateful that Melo is still around to deflect the criticism away from him because boy I tell you the kid would be hearing a lot of talk of "BUST" right about now if he was the face of the franchise.

What pressure? If in the middle of the year, Porzingis is the best player on this team, only complete morons will expect anything from them.

It will be, as it should've been from the start, all about his development.

And yeah, of course there will always be silly dudes like you and this apple guy, who will be jumping on him after every unimpressive night, even when the main goal would be him to learn..

He plays in NY for the Knicks, there is constant pressure especially from media. He is the highest Knicks overall draft selection since Patrick Ewing, that will always be thrown in his face. The expectation will always be there and the pressure of playing for the Knicks is always there. The spotlight will always be there, he can't hide from it.

[IllmaticHandler]

What are you clowns trying to say here? These comments are ridiculous

Only Clown here is you. Make sure you clean your red nose.... You been wearing it your whole life and its dirty.

It's probably cleaner than the dress you have on. Clown.

[MP4LIFE]

Carmelo Anthony is old and declining. He is no longer a top 20 or even top 30 player in this league. It's time to wake up and smell the coffee. A player's career doesn't last forever. Everyone gets old and Melo is beginning to look his age. If we can convince him to finally waive his no trade clause by the deadline then we should take whatever scraps we can get from a contender and begin a true rebuild. Of course this is wishful thinking from a franchise that has never really chosen to rebuild.

With the way the roster is set up the best and smartest thing to do is suck again this year and for years to come, collect young talent and rebuild around Porzingis and our future draft picks. Courtney Lee can stay and there's a few other good pieces on the team. But Rose has no future here and isn't a PG, Noah looks 41 rather than 31, Lance Thomas is just not good, Sasha Vujacic still manages to get minutes on an NBA team, etc.

Noah is untradeable and we will be saddled with his contract for years to come, ala Jerome James. But we can maneuver other players with this roster if only we can get Melo to finally let go and finish his career elsewhere for the good of himself and the franchise.

Forget the Triangle and anything else. If Dolan wasn't a huge moron he would have thrown money at Thibs - or even better yet, he would have went after a true franchise-changing GM like RC Buford, Sam Presti, Bob Meyers, Masai Ujiri, Jerry Colangelo, etc. Dolan pretends like he knows what he's doing when all he has ever done is go for style over substance ever single time. The only time he made a semi-competent basketball move was when Stern forced him to hire Donnie Walsh. Other than that he has gone with the big name Isiah Thomas and Phil Jackson signings, 2 people who were never qualified for their positions.

We are a franchise in the greatest city in the world that has been a joke for nearly 20 years. We are run by a narcissistic, clueless, egotistical, talentless idiot who knows zero about running a sports franchise. We care cursed with the worst owner in sports, who has transformed the Knicks from a once-respected franchise to a punch line and embarrassment. The Knicks are the worst franchise in the NBA. Only the Kings come close but their run of bad form is still very recent compared to the Knicks. The Clippers - the last NBA punch line - pulled themselves out of basketball oblivion once Sterling was forced to sell the team. That is our only salvation.

[gavran]

He can't even make free throws

Take away his 7/11 game vs Memphis and he's shooting like 33% from the field or something like that

He's been the biggest disappoint this year to me.

Whoever started that I rather see Porzingis play good and the team lose thread and everyone who agreed with him looks really dumb right now. That's what they get for putting a player over the team.

lmaoo this dude just took away a game to alter stats and fit his agenda ...

Take away all his made baskets, and he shoots 0%. Explain that!!!

[Capn'O]

Any talk of an outlier in a 4 game dataset is ridiculous. And if there were any, last night was more of an outlier than the best game he had. Chances are, at this stage of development he's a 17-18 ppg player with decent efficiency, good rim protection, and trouble defending in space.

It's a small sample size for sure but if his shooting gets quoted as a piece of evidence that's he's playing well then I say otherwise.

You have 4 occurrences. 3 result in poor results and the other results in extremely good results. That 4th result will skewe the overall data and manipulate it to counter the 3 poor results. That's why I'm saying he's not be playing well outside the one game vs Memphis he shot the ball very well. Which one is more likely to explain the trend. The 3 poor results or 1 good one.

Your analysis is all over the place. If you're making a qualitative assertion you shouldn't be throwing around quantitative analysis words like "outlier." I'd need to run the numbers but at a glance I'm fairly positive last night's game was more of a statistical outlier than any other so far by almost any measures. You could probably find one where it wasn't. I don't care. He had a very bad game last night. In any event, the idea of throwing out any data at this point in the season... is nonsensical.