Where is Nerlens?

[ProcessDoctor]

The Warriors GM is no dummy. Klay isn't untouchable but he is untouchable with a Noel trade. If you want Klay then it starts with Embiid and our 17 pick. Embiid is an injury worry so they would need more to hedge their bet so we would have to give up our pick just for them to not hang up the phone. The closest we could get to Noel for Klay is to include our pick and the Lakers pick. That may make them think but they still say no IMO.

Lmao. Our pick alone is damn near worth Klay. Embiid is way off the table, way off, so is Simmons. We're not trading for KD here. As far as I'm concerned they can have Okafor, Noel, Covington, and the Lakers first or the Kings first. They get not 1 but 2 big men the fill their hole, and a wing that's on a cheap deal. They can then resign Durant because they would be low enough under to do so, then go over the cap and sign curry and Noel.

No it's not. Klay is a top 15 player. There's no guarantee anyone from 17 draft will be a top 15 player although there are great prospects. And the Warriors are in win now mode. Drafting a great rookie still take some time. And the fact you are so quick to just throw away Okafor and Noel and Covington for Klay means you know Klay isn't that much better than all of them. The Warriors GM knows this. Do you really think he would want to trade for any of those players to give up Klay? Come on. They are trying to win a championship not build. They are in championship or bust mode. Just stop with the Klay trade scenarios. It's not happening. No chance.

And they have no use for Okafor. They wouldn't want him anyway. Come on.

How did you come to this conclusion?

[Sportfan73]

The Warriors GM is no dummy. Klay isn't untouchable but he is untouchable with a Noel trade. If you want Klay then it starts with Embiid and our 17 pick. Embiid is an injury worry so they would need more to hedge their bet so we would have to give up our pick just for them to not hang up the phone. The closest we could get to Noel for Klay is to include our pick and the Lakers pick. That may make them think but they still say no IMO.

Lmao. Our pick alone is damn near worth Klay. Embiid is way off the table, way off, so is Simmons. We're not trading for KD here. As far as I'm concerned they can have Okafor, Noel, Covington, and the Lakers first or the Kings first. They get not 1 but 2 big men the fill their hole, and a wing that's on a cheap deal. They can then resign Durant because they would be low enough under to do so, then go over the cap and sign curry and Noel.

No it's not. Klay is a top 15 player. There's no guarantee anyone from 17 draft will be a top 15 player although there are great prospects. And the Warriors are in win now mode. Drafting a great rookie still take some time. And the fact you are so quick to just throw away Okafor and Noel and Covington for Klay means you know Klay isn't that much better than all of them. The Warriors GM knows this. Do you really think he would want to trade for any of those players to give up Klay? Come on. They are trying to win a championship not build. They are in championship or bust mode. Just stop with the Klay trade scenarios. It's not happening. No chance.

In a vacuum that pick is worth Klay. Not to GS no, but in a vacuum it absolutely is. And because that gives golden state 4 years of Noel, 7 years of Jah, 2 years of Covington at 1 mil, and 8 years of a lottery pick. While allowing them to keep Durant and curry, 2 top 5 players in the world. It balances their roster long term while letting them stay the best team in the league right now.

[Unbreakable99]

Lmao. Our pick alone is damn near worth Klay. Embiid is way off the table, way off, so is Simmons. We're not trading for KD here. As far as I'm concerned they can have Okafor, Noel, Covington, and the Lakers first or the Kings first. They get not 1 but 2 big men the fill their hole, and a wing that's on a cheap deal. They can then resign Durant because they would be low enough under to do so, then go over the cap and sign curry and Noel.

No it's not. Klay is a top 15 player. There's no guarantee anyone from 17 draft will be a top 15 player although there are great prospects. And the Warriors are in win now mode. Drafting a great rookie still take some time. And the fact you are so quick to just throw away Okafor and Noel and Covington for Klay means you know Klay isn't that much better than all of them. The Warriors GM knows this. Do you really think he would want to trade for any of those players to give up Klay? Come on. They are trying to win a championship not build. They are in championship or bust mode. Just stop with the Klay trade scenarios. It's not happening. No chance.

And they have no use for Okafor. They wouldn't want him anyway. Come on.

How did you come to this conclusion?

Name 15 better.

[Unbreakable99]

Lmao. Our pick alone is damn near worth Klay. Embiid is way off the table, way off, so is Simmons. We're not trading for KD here. As far as I'm concerned they can have Okafor, Noel, Covington, and the Lakers first or the Kings first. They get not 1 but 2 big men the fill their hole, and a wing that's on a cheap deal. They can then resign Durant because they would be low enough under to do so, then go over the cap and sign curry and Noel.

No it's not. Klay is a top 15 player. There's no guarantee anyone from 17 draft will be a top 15 player although there are great prospects. And the Warriors are in win now mode. Drafting a great rookie still take some time. And the fact you are so quick to just throw away Okafor and Noel and Covington for Klay means you know Klay isn't that much better than all of them. The Warriors GM knows this. Do you really think he would want to trade for any of those players to give up Klay? Come on. They are trying to win a championship not build. They are in championship or bust mode. Just stop with the Klay trade scenarios. It's not happening. No chance.

In a vacuum that pick is worth Klay. Not to GS no, but in a vacuum it absolutely is. And because that gives golden state 4 years of Noel, 7 years of Jah, 2 years of Covington at 1 mil, and 8 years of a lottery pick. While allowing them to keep Durant and curry, 2 top 5 players in the world. It balances their roster long term while letting them stay the best team in the league right now.

The Warriors have no used for Okafor. Do you even watch them play? Just stop. Klay is off the table for Noel and crap.

[ProcessDoctor]

No it's not. Klay is a top 15 player. There's no guarantee anyone from 17 draft will be a top 15 player although there are great prospects. And the Warriors are in win now mode. Drafting a great rookie still take some time. And the fact you are so quick to just throw away Okafor and Noel and Covington for Klay means you know Klay isn't that much better than all of them. The Warriors GM knows this. Do you really think he would want to trade for any of those players to give up Klay? Come on. They are trying to win a championship not build. They are in championship or bust mode. Just stop with the Klay trade scenarios. It's not happening. No chance.

And they have no use for Okafor. They wouldn't want him anyway. Come on.

How did you come to this conclusion?

Name 15 better.

Based on RPM, I can name you 64. Based on PER, 54. Win shares? only 33.

Nothing top 15 anywhere to be seen.

[LloydFree]

Lmao. Our pick alone is damn near worth Klay. Embiid is way off the table, way off, so is Simmons. We're not trading for KD here. As far as I'm concerned they can have Okafor, Noel, Covington, and the Lakers first or the Kings first. They get not 1 but 2 big men the fill their hole, and a wing that's on a cheap deal. They can then resign Durant because they would be low enough under to do so, then go over the cap and sign curry and Noel.

No it's not. Klay is a top 15 player. There's no guarantee anyone from 17 draft will be a top 15 player although there are great prospects. And the Warriors are in win now mode. Drafting a great rookie still take some time. And the fact you are so quick to just throw away Okafor and Noel and Covington for Klay means you know Klay isn't that much better than all of them. The Warriors GM knows this. Do you really think he would want to trade for any of those players to give up Klay? Come on. They are trying to win a championship not build. They are in championship or bust mode. Just stop with the Klay trade scenarios. It's not happening. No chance.

And they have no use for Okafor. They wouldn't want him anyway. Come on.

How did you come to this conclusion?

Because the Warriors GM isn't a dummy.

[Sportfan73]

No it's not. Klay is a top 15 player. There's no guarantee anyone from 17 draft will be a top 15 player although there are great prospects. And the Warriors are in win now mode. Drafting a great rookie still take some time. And the fact you are so quick to just throw away Okafor and Noel and Covington for Klay means you know Klay isn't that much better than all of them. The Warriors GM knows this. Do you really think he would want to trade for any of those players to give up Klay? Come on. They are trying to win a championship not build. They are in championship or bust mode. Just stop with the Klay trade scenarios. It's not happening. No chance.

And they have no use for Okafor. They wouldn't want him anyway. Come on.

How did you come to this conclusion?

Name 15 better.

Bron, KD, steph, Davis, Kawhi, Lillard, cp3, Blake, George, kyrie, Harden, wall, russ, boogie, towns could begin to be argued, Butler, Giannis, Wade
In the discussion with Klay could be Lowry, DeRozan, LMA, Millsap, Horford, draymond. He is absolutely not definitively top 15.

[eagereyez]

How did you come to this conclusion?

Name 15 better.

Based on RPM, I can name you 64. Based on PER, 54. Win shares? only 33.

Nothing top 15 anywhere to be seen.

That's a very good example of why advanced stats are useless without context.

[LongLiveHinkie]

When people say what a GM would do, they are essentially saying "what I would do if I were the GM" which is counterproductive, because we aren't the GM. I don't think the Warriors would deal Klay, which is why I said it's a pipe dream. However, crazier things have happened, and if they continue to get killed on the glass all season(which they will) and their defense continues to suck(which it probably will) the pressure may force a move.

Again, I'd bet against it, but Sixers fans aren't even fueling this stuff, Warriors fans are. Warriors fans have been talking about Noel for weeks now, and after a slow(ish) start, they have been talking about packages involving Noel and Klay.

And on a side note putting Giannis and Wade above Klay is laughable.

[Sportfan73]

When people say what a GM would do, they are essentially saying "what I would do if I were the GM" which is counterproductive, because we aren't the GM. I don't think the Warriors would deal Klay, which is why I said it's a pipe dream. However, crazier things have happened, and if they continue to get killed on the glass all season(which they will) and their defense continues to suck(which it probably will) the pressure may force a move.

Again, I'd bet against it, but Sixers fans aren't even fueling this stuff, Warriors fans are. Warriors fans have been talking about Noel for weeks now, and after a slow(ish) start, they have been talking about packages involving Noel and Klay.

And on a side note putting Giannis and Wade above Klay is laughable.

They are absolutely in the conversation.

[76thBearCub]

Klay Thompson is really damn good. Making peanuts right now by the new standard.

He won't be traded this year. **** would have to really hit the fan.

[LongLiveHinkie]

When people say what a GM would do, they are essentially saying "what I would do if I were the GM" which is counterproductive, because we aren't the GM. I don't think the Warriors would deal Klay, which is why I said it's a pipe dream. However, crazier things have happened, and if they continue to get killed on the glass all season(which they will) and their defense continues to suck(which it probably will) the pressure may force a move.

Again, I'd bet against it, but Sixers fans aren't even fueling this stuff, Warriors fans are. Warriors fans have been talking about Noel for weeks now, and after a slow(ish) start, they have been talking about packages involving Noel and Klay.

And on a side note putting Giannis and Wade above Klay is laughable.

They are absolutely in the conversation.

Definitely not. Wade is way past his prime, and Giannis is one of the more overrated players in the NBA. Good player, but not special like people make him out to be.

[XtremeDunkz]

Klay is not a top 15 player, let's be serious.

[Sportfan73]

When people say what a GM would do, they are essentially saying "what I would do if I were the GM" which is counterproductive, because we aren't the GM. I don't think the Warriors would deal Klay, which is why I said it's a pipe dream. However, crazier things have happened, and if they continue to get killed on the glass all season(which they will) and their defense continues to suck(which it probably will) the pressure may force a move.

Again, I'd bet against it, but Sixers fans aren't even fueling this stuff, Warriors fans are. Warriors fans have been talking about Noel for weeks now, and after a slow(ish) start, they have been talking about packages involving Noel and Klay.

And on a side note putting Giannis and Wade above Klay is laughable.

They are absolutely in the conversation.

Definitely not. Wade is way past his prime, and Giannis is one of the more overrated players in the NBA. Good player, but not special like people make him out to be.

Wade being past his prime has nothing to do with him being as good as klay

[Unbreakable99]

How did you come to this conclusion?

Name 15 better.

Bron, KD, steph, Davis, Kawhi, Lillard, cp3, Blake, George, kyrie, Harden, wall, russ, boogie, towns could begin to be argued, Butler, Giannis, Wade
In the discussion with Klay could be Lowry, DeRozan, LMA, Millsap, Horford, draymond. He is absolutely not definitively top 15.

From Bron to CP3 I'll give you. I wouldn't say Blake is better. I do think George is better and Russ. I'll give you Kyrie as well. Harden is a tough one. I'll give you him as well. I don't think Wall is. Boogie is debatable. I'll even give you that one and say he is. I don't think Towns just yet. No to Lowry. No to DeRozen. No to LMA. No to Horford and Millsap. No to Draymond. Butler is a tough one too. I'll even give him to you. No to Wade. So with all that said that still leaves Klay in the top 15.

[LongLiveHinkie]

They are absolutely in the conversation.

Definitely not. Wade is way past his prime, and Giannis is one of the more overrated players in the NBA. Good player, but not special like people make him out to be.

Wade being past his prime has nothing to do with him being as good as klay

Huh?

[Ericb5]

Agree with the consensus that adding a non-shooter is a bad idea.

Unless you can get a great perimeter defender like Smart.

I'm not very knowledgeable about Joseph. Can he defend both guard spots at a high level?


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[Ericb5]

The Warriors GM is no dummy. Klay isn't untouchable but he is untouchable with a Noel trade. If you want Klay then it starts with Embiid and our 17 pick. Embiid is an injury worry so they would need more to hedge their bet so we would have to give up our pick just for them to not hang up the phone. The closest we could get to Noel for Klay is to include our pick and the Lakers pick. That may make them think but they still say no IMO.

Lmao. Our pick alone is damn near worth Klay. Embiid is way off the table, way off, so is Simmons. We're not trading for KD here. As far as I'm concerned they can have Okafor, Noel, Covington, and the Lakers first or the Kings first. They get not 1 but 2 big men the fill their hole, and a wing that's on a cheap deal. They can then resign Durant because they would be low enough under to do so, then go over the cap and sign curry and Noel.

No it's not. Klay is a top 15 player. There's no guarantee anyone from 17 draft will be a top 15 player although there are great prospects. And the Warriors are in win now mode. Drafting a great rookie still take some time. And the fact you are so quick to just throw away Okafor and Noel and Covington for Klay means you know Klay isn't that much better than all of them. The Warriors GM knows this. Do you really think he would want to trade for any of those players to give up Klay? Come on. They are trying to win a championship not build. They are in championship or bust mode. Just stop with the Klay trade scenarios. It's not happening. No chance.

And they have no use for Okafor. They wouldn't want him anyway. Come on.

So Embiid and a top 5 pick in a great draft isn't enough, but Noel and the Lakers pick is close?

Embiid isn't going to be traded for anyone period.

If he gets through this year healthy then he will be better than Klay by himself, and will be the best young player in the league. He will be our franchise or he will bust due to health. Those are the only two options with Embiid.


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[Kobblehead]

Klay is not a top 15 player, let's be serious.

Not even close to it, either. And if one more national talking head comments on him being a good defender, I'm going to flip. He's extremely overrated.

[Unbreakable99]

Klay is not a top 15 player, let's be serious.

Not even close to it, either. And if one more national talking head comments on him being a good defender, I'm going to flip. He's extremely overrated.

So where would you rank Klay?