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Devin Booker

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When will Booker hit 8,000 career points?

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6th season
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7th season
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Post#841 » by OnceUponADime » Sun Nov 6, 2016 5:16 am

“We do that so many times,” said Suns coach Earl Watson, who began working directly with Booker when he joined the team as a player development assistant in the summer of 2015. “Sometimes, he has to hit 15, 10 in a row. We want to continue to build that to 20 in a row to where we get in the game and it’s a natural flow and a natural feel. We talk about it a lot. We visualize it. We drill it every day.

“We don’t want to put him in pick-and-rolls at the end of games. We want him in isolation so there can’t be a double-team or a trap. If there is, he can pick it off with the pass because he can see it coming and he still has his dribble.”

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2016/11/05/phoenix-suns-devin-booker-comfort-zone-shots-he-practices/93372448/

With all due respect to Watson, I do not like this. The best teams in this league don't rely on isolation basketball except for the Cavs who have the best in this game. The Warriors never ran isos for Curry the last two years at the end of games when they needed buckets and the Spurs don't run isos for Kawhi at the end of games when they need buckets.

Watson has to run actual plays even if it's pick and roll and trust Booker's judgment and ability to make the right decision if the defense traps. ISO basketball is not a trend in the NBA anymore and no coach should be actively promoting that kind of basketball. Iso basketball is what makes basketball players like Brandon Knight. Sure if you have generational talents like Kobe/MJ/LeBron it makes sense but Booker ain't there yet.
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Re: Devin Booker 

Post#842 » by NTB » Sun Nov 6, 2016 9:02 am

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“We do that so many times,” said Suns coach Earl Watson, who began working directly with Booker when he joined the team as a player development assistant in the summer of 2015. “Sometimes, he has to hit 15, 10 in a row. We want to continue to build that to 20 in a row to where we get in the game and it’s a natural flow and a natural feel. We talk about it a lot. We visualize it. We drill it every day.

“We don’t want to put him in pick-and-rolls at the end of games. We want him in isolation so there can’t be a double-team or a trap. If there is, he can pick it off with the pass because he can see it coming and he still has his dribble.”

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2016/11/05/phoenix-suns-devin-booker-comfort-zone-shots-he-practices/93372448/

With all due respect to Watson, I do not like this. The best teams in this league don't rely on isolation basketball except for the Cavs who have the best in this game. The Warriors never ran isos for Curry the last two years at the end of games when they needed buckets and the Spurs don't run isos for Kawhi at the end of games when they need buckets.

Watson has to run actual plays even if it's pick and roll and trust Booker's judgment and ability to make the right decision if the defense traps. ISO basketball is not a trend in the NBA anymore and no coach should be actively promoting that kind of basketball. Iso basketball is what makes basketball players like Brandon Knight. Sure if you have generational talents like Kobe/MJ/LeBron it makes sense but Booker ain't there yet.






Most of them are ISO. I don't like ISO as a gameplan but I liked Watson's perspective here because Booker is a good ISO player and he can shoot over people.
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Re: Devin Booker 

Post#843 » by OnceUponADime » Sun Nov 6, 2016 9:35 am

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“We do that so many times,” said Suns coach Earl Watson, who began working directly with Booker when he joined the team as a player development assistant in the summer of 2015. “Sometimes, he has to hit 15, 10 in a row. We want to continue to build that to 20 in a row to where we get in the game and it’s a natural flow and a natural feel. We talk about it a lot. We visualize it. We drill it every day.

“We don’t want to put him in pick-and-rolls at the end of games. We want him in isolation so there can’t be a double-team or a trap. If there is, he can pick it off with the pass because he can see it coming and he still has his dribble.”

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2016/11/05/phoenix-suns-devin-booker-comfort-zone-shots-he-practices/93372448/

With all due respect to Watson, I do not like this. The best teams in this league don't rely on isolation basketball except for the Cavs who have the best in this game. The Warriors never ran isos for Curry the last two years at the end of games when they needed buckets and the Spurs don't run isos for Kawhi at the end of games when they need buckets.

Watson has to run actual plays even if it's pick and roll and trust Booker's judgment and ability to make the right decision if the defense traps. ISO basketball is not a trend in the NBA anymore and no coach should be actively promoting that kind of basketball. Iso basketball is what makes basketball players like Brandon Knight. Sure if you have generational talents like Kobe/MJ/LeBron it makes sense but Booker ain't there yet.






Most of them are ISO. I don't like ISO as a gameplan but I liked Watson's perspective here because Booker is a good ISO player and he can shoot over people.

Steph only goes iso when it's a mismatch. The Warriors offense relies on him getting that big on him FROM a pick and roll action and then Steph does his thing on the big man. Thats different than what Watson wants.
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Re: Devin Booker 

Post#844 » by alldayeveryday » Mon Nov 7, 2016 5:21 am

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Post#845 » by thamadkant » Mon Nov 7, 2016 5:25 am

I liked his performance tonight... but he still takes some silly shots... like rushed shots especially early in the first half.
Hopefully he improves there.
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Post#846 » by kennydorglas » Mon Nov 7, 2016 5:25 am

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Post#847 » by OnceUponADime » Mon Nov 7, 2016 5:34 am

1UPZ wrote:I liked his performance tonight... but he still takes some silly shots... like rushed shots especially early in the first half.
Hopefully he improves there.

Honestly, none of it is his fault. He knows if he passes the ball then he may not touch it again due to the ball hogs on the team.

I want him to never pass the ball until the ball hogs on the team leave. I'd rather Booker take contested shots than anyone else take contested shots.
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Post#848 » by Zelaznyrules » Mon Nov 7, 2016 5:36 am

1UPZ wrote:I liked his performance tonight... but he still takes some silly shots... like rushed shots especially early in the first half.
Hopefully he improves there.


I don't think there's ever been an elite scorer that hasn't had that kind of thing said about him, nature of the job.
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Post#849 » by DaleyBlind » Mon Nov 7, 2016 5:37 am

id rather Booker take a silly shot than Knight or Tucker take a wide open 3 with .1 sec on the shot clock
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Re: Devin Booker 

Post#850 » by thamadkant » Mon Nov 7, 2016 5:55 am

OnceUponADime wrote:
1UPZ wrote:I liked his performance tonight... but he still takes some silly shots... like rushed shots especially early in the first half.
Hopefully he improves there.

Honestly, none of it is his fault. He knows if he passes the ball then he may not touch it again due to the ball hogs on the team.

I want him to never pass the ball until the ball hogs on the team leave. I'd rather Booker take contested shots than anyone else take contested shots.



I know EXACTLY what you mean.

I absolutely HATE it when Tucker passes up an open shot, instead dribbles and tries to create plays, just SHOOT the damn ball.
It messes up plays and spaces provided by Bledsoe or Booker.

Then you have Len who always wants to score when he touches the ball down low, hence defenders KNOW how to defend him because they know he will try to do a hook shot or try to bully his way for a dunk.... he needs to learn to pass back out or move the ball to other players.


Knight... well forget about getting the ball back when he gets it.



Warren is FINE... I mean he is a terrific offensive player so you expect some ISOs for him.


I really want a Warren/Booker one-two punch to develop... hence Suns needs a PG who is perfectly fine spotting up and playing defense.
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Re: Devin Booker 

Post#851 » by thamadkant » Mon Nov 7, 2016 5:57 am

Zelaznyrules wrote:
1UPZ wrote:I liked his performance tonight... but he still takes some silly shots... like rushed shots especially early in the first half.
Hopefully he improves there.


I don't think there's ever been an elite scorer that hasn't had that kind of thing said about him, nature of the job.



What I didnt like was that rushed floater and fadeaway without even scouting around for a better play.... basically.. I dont want him to become the "hog" Kobe, especially this young... I want him to be a play maker as well... like Hayward and Harden...

Harden is absolutely a DREAM scenario for him to be like... But Harden is so much better at dribbling and finishing inside though. Look at Harden averaging 12 assists a game and over 27 points.... CRAZY offensive weapon.
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Re: Devin Booker 

Post#852 » by Zelaznyrules » Mon Nov 7, 2016 6:06 am

1UPZ wrote:
Zelaznyrules wrote:
1UPZ wrote:I liked his performance tonight... but he still takes some silly shots... like rushed shots especially early in the first half.
Hopefully he improves there.


I don't think there's ever been an elite scorer that hasn't had that kind of thing said about him, nature of the job.



What I didnt like was that rushed floater and fadeaway without even scouting around for a better play.... basically.. I dont want him to become the "hog" Kobe, especially this young... I want him to be a play maker as well... like Hayward and Harden...

Harden is absolutely a DREAM scenario for him to be like... But Harden is so much better at dribbling and finishing inside though. Look at Harden averaging 12 assists a game and over 27 points.... CRAZY offensive weapon.


I'll take 20 year old Booker over 20 year old Harden, any day of the week. I get your point but you also have to consider who Booker is surrounded by. And he often looks to pass, I don't see a selfish player in any way.

You're always going to have instances where you might question the reasoning but that happened with Larry Bird and just about every great scorer. Nash is a rare exception but he never had a scorer's mentality, Booker does and you don't want to cage that instinct. I'm thrilled with his judgement, over all, despite not liking the occasional decision.

If I were to change anything it's the edginess he seems to display, with refs and with opponents. I don't think it's good for him in the long run. Like tonight when he was frustrated with being grabbed by Russell so he just bowled him over, costing us possession and taking away probably our last chance to get back in the game.
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Re: Devin Booker 

Post#853 » by OnceUponADime » Mon Nov 7, 2016 6:07 am

1UPZ wrote:
I really want a Warren/Booker one-two punch to develop... hence Suns needs a PG who is perfectly fine spotting up and playing defense.

One guy that would have been perfect for this is George Hill. He's doing just that for Utah.
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Post#854 » by thamadkant » Mon Nov 7, 2016 6:09 am

yeah Booker's edginess gets to me too.. I mean he picks scuffles or arguments with Stars too... like Cousins and Davis who are supposedly "Kentucky" brothers..

He should be befriending these guys to attract them to the Suns to play with him.


And regarding Harden... Harden's low dribbling stance allow him to be a much better handler... I dont think Booker will be a better ball handler than Harden.. but he could become a better 3pt shooter for sure.
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Post#855 » by thamadkant » Mon Nov 7, 2016 6:10 am

OnceUponADime wrote:
1UPZ wrote:
I really want a Warren/Booker one-two punch to develop... hence Suns needs a PG who is perfectly fine spotting up and playing defense.

One guy that would have been perfect for this is George Hill. He's doing just that for Utah.



heck even Lou Williams or Corey Joseph would do wonders.
Both could shoot the 3 and play defense... and dont have to over dribble.
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Post#856 » by OnceUponADime » Mon Nov 7, 2016 6:13 am

1UPZ wrote:
OnceUponADime wrote:
1UPZ wrote:
I really want a Warren/Booker one-two punch to develop... hence Suns needs a PG who is perfectly fine spotting up and playing defense.

One guy that would have been perfect for this is George Hill. He's doing just that for Utah.



heck even Lou Williams or Corey Joseph would do wonders.
Both could shoot the 3 and play defense... and dont have to over dribble.

Lou Williams doesn't really play defense, he just looks good defensively in Luke Walton's system. He would look like a slightly more efficient version of Brandon Knight in Phoenix.

Cory Joseph is interesting though but Toronto is too smart to trade him especially on that contract they have him long term on.

Dellavadova would have been nice next to Booker too.

Now our best bet may be Pat Beverly since Harden is their full time PG now anyways.
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Re: Devin Booker 

Post#857 » by thamadkant » Mon Nov 7, 2016 6:19 am

I like Delly... absolutely would fit well next to Booker..

Delly.. tough SOB who hustles and makes great plays.


Len, Knight, Tucker for Delly, Henson
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Re: Devin Booker 

Post#858 » by gaspar » Mon Nov 7, 2016 6:31 am

Booker plays like a 32 year old Kobe and I mean it as a huge compliment.
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Re: Devin Booker 

Post#860 » by Qwigglez » Mon Nov 7, 2016 1:31 pm

gaspar wrote:Booker plays like a 32 year old Kobe and I mean it as a huge compliment.


I said the same thing in the game against the Blazers! Except I said 31 year old Kobe. :D

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