Predict The Blue Jays FA Signings?

Wo1verine · Post #1 » by **Wo1verine** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 4:28 am

Who do Atkins and Shapio sign? Lets see who comes the closest?

I'm gonna go with:

(OF) Josh Reddick
(C) Alex Avila
(INF/OF) Steve Pearce
(RP) Boone Logan
(RP) Brett Cecil

phillipmike · Post #2 » by **phillipmike** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 2:46 pm

Here are mine;

(OF) Josh Reddick
(1B) Edwin Encarnicion
(DH) Billy Butler
(C) Dioner Navarro
(RP) Neftali Feliz
(RP) Brett Cecil

Not necessarily who i want rather who i think we will sign. I think they will sign an OF and i think Reddick fills some needs being lefthanded, a better fielder and having monster career numbers at the Rogers Centre. Im not a big fan of committing a lot of money for Edwin but i think the FO loves him and will give him a competitive offer and he will take it. Butler still has one more year on his deal as he was released by Oakland making him only eligible for the league minimum (like he was last year and how Reyes was last year and this year with the Mets). Why not take a gamble on Butler at the minimum? At worst he is power off the bench but he is also only 31 so he would need to re-establish value to get another decent contract. Why not come to the confines of the hitter friendly Rogers Centre, a playoff team, the protection of Donladson, EE, and Tulo - his numbers could be big heading into another FA year. Navarro made 3M last year and had a bad year. Jays would like to keep his switch hitting bat and familiarity behind the plate offering him a few more starts to keep Martin fresh - Navarro would probably come in under 3M. Jays wont play with the big boys when it comes to relief help. He wasnt as good in years past but Cecil is one of the better lefties on the market - he would stay if we offered a good deal and the Jays really need a good lefty in the pen. Jays need another big arm in the pen, i dont know who exactly it would be but Feliz could be a good 7th or 8th inning guy. Osuna, Feliz, Cecil, Grilli and Biagini can be an effective back end bullpen.

I personally think the Jays will make a few small to medium size trades getting relief help (likely for a lefty) and potentially a big bat in trade. Just not too sure who yet. I do like Pearce a lot too.

Skin Blues · Post #3 » by **Skin Blues** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 3:57 pm

phillipmike wrote:Here are mine;

(OF) Josh Reddick
(1B) Edwin Encarnicion
(DH) Billy Butler
(C) Dioner Navarro
(RP) Neftali Feliz
(RP) Brett Cecil

Not necessarily who i want rather who i think we will sign. I think they will sign an OF and i think Reddick fills some needs being lefthanded, a better fielder and having monster career numbers at the Rogers Centre. Im not a big fan of committing a lot of money for Edwin but i think the FO loves him and will give him a competitive offer and he will take it. Butler still has one more year on his deal as he was released by Oakland making him only eligible for the league minimum (like he was last year and how Reyes was last year and this year with the Mets). Why not take a gamble on Butler at the minimum? At worst he is power off the bench but he is also only 31 so he would need to re-establish value to get another decent contract. Why not come to the confines of the hitter friendly Rogers Centre, a playoff team, the protection of Donladson, EE, and Tulo - his numbers could be big heading into another FA year. Navarro made 3M last year and had a bad year. Jays would like to keep his switch hitting bat and familiarity behind the plate offering him a few more starts to keep Martin fresh - Navarro would probably come in under 3M. Jays wont play with the big boys when it comes to relief help. He wasnt as good in years past but Cecil is one of the better lefties on the market - he would stay if we offered a good deal and the Jays really need a good lefty in the pen. Jays need another big arm in the pen, i dont know who exactly it would be but Feliz could be a good 7th or 8th inning guy. Osuna, Feliz, Cecil, Grilli and Biagini can be an effective back end bullpen.

I personally think the Jays will make a few small to medium size trades getting relief help (likely for a lefty) and potentially a big bat in trade. Just not too sure who yet. I do like Pearce a lot too.

I'd like to see Pearce added. Flexible to fill a need at both 1B and corner OF, and a great hitter. I imagine if he holds out a bit the bidding will keep going up and end up out of our price range.

As for Butler, I think people assume he has power because he's fat and slow, but he's really just a fat and slow slap hitter. Overall he's actually still a league average hitter, but I don't think there's much upside left. For the minimum, it actually might not be a bad idea.

super_balls · Post #4 » by **super_balls** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 5:42 pm

Dexter Fowler #BringHimHome

MavCarter · Post #5 » by **MavCarter** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 7:11 pm

http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/video/westhead-encarnacion-wants-5-year-125-m-deal~989333

Apparently edwin wants 5/$125M

Wo1verine · Post #6 » by **Wo1verine** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 7:46 pm

McGregFan wrote:http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/video/westhead-encarnacion-wants-5-year-125-m-deal~989333

Apparently edwin wants 5/$125M

In the end, i think he gets 4/$80M-$85, with perhaps an option for the 5th year.

T-d0t · Post #7 » by **T-d0t** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 8:32 pm

There goes the idea of signing Edwin

Post #8 » by **JaysRule15** » Tue Nov 8, 2016 12:26 am

I think Edwin gets $100 million at least pretty easily. Best bat in a weak free agent class and can still play passable defense for the next 2-3 years. Just hoping he does us a favor and doesn't sign with an AL East team. Boston and New York could both throw $100 million at him.

Wo1verine · Post #9 » by **Wo1verine** » Tue Nov 8, 2016 1:24 am

MLBTR predicts the following Jays signings:

12. Jose Bautista – Blue Jays. Three years, $51MM. In February, massive numbers were floated regarding Bautista’s asking price for an extension with the Blue Jays. Regardless of the slugger’s exact demand at that time, the 36-year-old now faces an uphill battle in getting a fourth year on his next contract. Bautista endured DL stints for toe and knee injuries, playing in only 116 games this year. His power numbers declined, his right field defense remained an issue, and he comes with a qualifying offer. Still, Bautista served as the face of the Blue Jays in crushing 227 home runs from 2010-15. If the Jays don’t retain him, Bautista may be limited to AL teams like the Red Sox, Orioles, or White Sox. While we’ve predicted three years, a one-year deal could make sense for Bautista, as could an opt-out clause in a multiyear pact.

22. Kendrys Morales – Blue Jays. Two years, $26MM. Morales spent the last two years as a quality designated hitter for the Royals. This season, he didn’t turn it on until June, after which he hit .296/.357/.531 in 423 plate appearances. At age 33, a three-year deal might be hard to come by, and Morales’ market is limited to AL teams with DH openings. Fortunately for Morales, he was not given a qualifying offer from the Royals. Possible fits include the Orioles, Red Sox, Blue Jays, White Sox, and Rangers.

EJaggit · Post #10 » by **EJaggit** » Tue Nov 8, 2016 8:22 pm

Any news? I'm excited for Morales...

Realistically I see

Votto
Encarnacion (if he's willing to settle for an it less)
Cecil
Morales
Maybe Feliz
Navarro

The_Hater · Post #11 » by **The_Hater** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:05 pm

EJaggit wrote:Any news? I'm excited for Morales...

Realistically I see

Votto
Encarnacion (if he's willing to settle for an it less)
Cecil
Morales
Maybe Feliz
Navarro

You've got them adding 3 DH/1B's and they still need to fill LF and RF. Doesn't seem like the likely route.

StopitLeo · Post #12 » by **StopitLeo** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:27 pm

I'd like to see them give Edwin 5 years if that's what it takes. In years 4-5, if the team isn't contending, he will be a dangerous bat that fan be traded to a contender at the deadline. Even with lower production.

Cecil should be affordable. I'd like him because we know what he offers, even if his best stuff doesn't show up until August.

Reddick could be okay but we'd probably have to platoon him. Maybe with Pompey? He has to show he can play already and he can hit lefties enough to platoon with Reddick I think.

So many spots to fill.

The_Hater · Post #13 » by **The_Hater** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:51 pm

StopitLeo wrote:I'd like to see them give Edwin 5 years if that's what it takes. In years 4-5, if the team isn't contending, he will be a dangerous bat that fan be traded to a contender at the deadline. Even with lower production.

Cecil should be affordable. I'd like him because we know what he offers, even if his best stuff doesn't show up until August.

Reddick could be okay but we'd probably have to platoon him. Maybe with Pompey? He has to show he can play already and he can hit lefties enough to platoon with Reddick I think.

So many spots to fill.

5 years for Edwin just isn't a good idea on so many levels IMO. That should be a deal breaker for the Jays.

The Jays will probably contend for only 1-2 of those seasons max and it's not as simple as just trading him if they're no longer contending. With 5 years he will be difficult to move without the Jay's eating a big chunk of his salary, even if he doesn't regress, and he will likely be limited only to AL teams who need a DH. That's small market.

Skin Blues · Post #14 » by **Skin Blues** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:37 pm

StopitLeo wrote:I'd like to see them give Edwin 5 years if that's what it takes. In years 4-5, if the team isn't contending, he will be a dangerous bat that fan be traded to a contender at the deadline. Even with lower production.

Cecil should be affordable. I'd like him because we know what he offers, even if his best stuff doesn't show up until August.

Reddick could be okay but we'd probably have to platoon him. Maybe with Pompey? He has to show he can play already and he can hit lefties enough to platoon with Reddick I think.

So many spots to fill.

Eddie might not be a dangerous bat anymore in years 3, 4 & 5 (when we are probably re-building), and that's an awful lot of money to be spending on a guy that a) you don't need and b) nobody wants to trade for because his bat has deteriorated and he can't contribute in any other ways. I think Bautista makes way more sense, here. You get him for 3 years for considerably less AAV than Edwin. And to be honest there's very little difference between the two.

Cecil - I'd love to bring him back. He was always underappreciated. he was unfairly pegged as a LOOGY quite often but he's a shut-down guy against both sides of the plate.

Reddick I also like. Solid defense which we can always use, and Upton can platoon against lefties. Even when he's being platooned for, that's a hell of a bat to have off the bench in a pinch-hit situation later in the game. I really like him. And we need outfielders because I don't want to rely on either Carrera or Pompey to be our starting LF.

StopitLeo · Post #15 » by **StopitLeo** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:05 pm

The_Hater wrote:
StopitLeo wrote:I'd like to see them give Edwin 5 years if that's what it takes. In years 4-5, if the team isn't contending, he will be a dangerous bat that fan be traded to a contender at the deadline. Even with lower production.

Cecil should be affordable. I'd like him because we know what he offers, even if his best stuff doesn't show up until August.

Reddick could be okay but we'd probably have to platoon him. Maybe with Pompey? He has to show he can play already and he can hit lefties enough to platoon with Reddick I think.

So many spots to fill.

5 years for Edwin just isn't a good idea on so many levels IMO. That should be a deal breaker for the Jays.

The Jays will probably contend for only 1-2 of those seasons max and it's not as simple as just trading him if they're no longer contending. With 5 years he will be difficult to move without the Jay's eating a big chunk of his salary, even if he doesn't regress, and he will likely be limited only to AL teams who need a DH. That's small market.

You're right. I didn't consider that at that point Eddie would be limited to DH.

Ok, so with Eddie and Jose departing who can we get to offer Donaldson some protection?

Wo1verine · Post #16 » by **Wo1verine** » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:30 pm

Wouldn't mind JR personally should he be the second best player we acquire this winter.

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Wo1verine · Post #17 » by **Wo1verine** » Fri Nov 11, 2016 8:16 pm

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I thought we wanted to get more athletic? 30 HR, but an OPS of .795.

StopitLeo · Post #18 » by **StopitLeo** » Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:11 am

Wo1verine wrote:

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I thought we wanted to get more athletic? 30 HR, but an OPS of .795.

We need something behind Donaldson.

Post #19 » by **JaysRule15** » Sat Nov 12, 2016 5:42 am

Really hoping that we can bring Cecil back. Good lefty relievers are hard to come by.

Skin Blues · Post #20 » by **Skin Blues** » Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:31 pm

I'd really like to add one of Pearce or Moss. We need bats and they're both solid, albeit somewhat flawed, yet still flexible enough to play multiple positions. And also, pretty cheap. I like cheap, short-term deals on early-30s guys who can still hit and play defense.

If we go cheap enough on those guys maybe we can bring in a guy like Kenley Jansen. It's a long-shot, and he'd be expensive, but what a nice luxury that'd be. The man has had a SIERA below 1.90 for the past 6 years in a row. That's insane. Even Chapman has only done that 3 times in the past 6, and not in any of the previous 2 seasons. How fun would it be to throw caution to the wind and blow a bunch of Rogers' cash on a reliever?