So how about Joel Embiid

jbent87 · Post #801 » by **jbent87** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 3:03 pm

Mik317 wrote:
robbie84 wrote:Why do other rookie threads bet locked and told 'go to rookie discussion thread' and this staus in general?

dude was hurt for two years and is now putting up numbers not even the biggest sixer homer could think he'd do so soon. Its a big deal. A lot of people thought he'd never play again FFS.

also I am also sure if other rookies were doing something out the ordinary, they'd have threads too

If the "What should Adam Silver do about the Sixers situation?" topic over the last couple years could remain opened on the General Board, the "How about Joel Embiid?" thread deserves to remain active as well. This thread is pt. 2 of that topic. Just wait for pt. 3 when Ben Simmons gets out there in January too.

Unbreakable99 · Post #802 » by **Unbreakable99** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 3:42 pm

Good read about Embiid. It talks about KAT and Turner but scroll down to the part about Embiid. Wow! This is why I'm so high on him.

https://theringer.com/nba-big-man-hybrids-karl-anthony-towns-myles-turner-254a304647c9#.kgelfxaxt

Hipster Doofus · Post #803 » by **Hipster Doofus** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 4:43 pm

Second in the NBA in blocks per game already. On restricted minutes.

JB2 · Post #804 » by **JB2** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 5:03 pm

Monster with HOF level potential. No joke.

That's exactly what he was around draft time. Injuries are the only reason he wasn't #1. But Embiid, Wiggins, Randle, Clarkson, Parker and Lavine seem to really be coming into their own and leading that class. But Embiid... man... that ceiling is scary high. I'm curious to see how he plays with Simmons and see BC trade Jah and Noel and get some pieces around the wing.

Hinkie got a raw deal.

theo42 · Post #805 » by **theo42** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 7:50 pm

Canadian6ersFan wrote:Second in the NBA in blocks per game already. On restricted minutes.

1st in 3pt FG % per game....

Hipster Doofus · Post #806 » by **Hipster Doofus** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 7:59 pm

Yup, you're exactly right about 3 pointers. He attempts just over two per game, and makes 1.5 of them

E-Balla · Post #807 » by **E-Balla** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 7:59 pm

JB2 wrote:Monster with HOF level potential. No joke.

That's exactly what he was around draft time. Injuries are the only reason he wasn't #1. But Embiid, Wiggins, Randle, Clarkson, Parker and Lavine seem to really be coming into their own and leading that class. But Embiid... man... that ceiling is scary high. I'm curious to see how he plays with Simmons and see BC trade Jah and Noel and get some pieces around the wing.

Hinkie got a raw deal.

They're 0-5. Its not hard to draft Joel Embiid (I mean everyone knew he would be amazing if he hit the court) and stack talent but it is hard to build a team that can win games. Remember they were 1-21 and looking worse than ever (they just got beat 119-68) when they brought Colangelo in.

jbent87 · Post #808 » by **jbent87** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 8:50 pm

E-Balla wrote:
JB2 wrote:Monster with HOF level potential. No joke.

That's exactly what he was around draft time. Injuries are the only reason he wasn't #1. But Embiid, Wiggins, Randle, Clarkson, Parker and Lavine seem to really be coming into their own and leading that class. But Embiid... man... that ceiling is scary high. I'm curious to see how he plays with Simmons and see BC trade Jah and Noel and get some pieces around the wing.

Hinkie got a raw deal.

They're 0-5. Its not hard to draft Joel Embiid (I mean everyone knew he would be amazing if he hit the court) and stack talent but it is hard to build a team that can win games. Remember they were 1-21 and looking worse than ever (they just got beat 119-68) when they brought Colangelo in.

Hinkie was doing exactly what he told owners he was going to do (tread water/kick the can until the team was where it needed to be with the players intended to start trying to win. That embarrassing, shameful 1-21 stretch lead to drafting Ben Simmons).

But this isn't the thread for that.

Snotbubbles · Post #809 » by **Snotbubbles** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 8:59 pm

E-Balla wrote:
JB2 wrote:Monster with HOF level potential. No joke.

That's exactly what he was around draft time. Injuries are the only reason he wasn't #1. But Embiid, Wiggins, Randle, Clarkson, Parker and Lavine seem to really be coming into their own and leading that class. But Embiid... man... that ceiling is scary high. I'm curious to see how he plays with Simmons and see BC trade Jah and Noel and get some pieces around the wing.

Hinkie got a raw deal.

They're 0-5. Its not hard to draft Joel Embiid (I mean everyone knew he would be amazing if he hit the court) and stack talent but it is hard to build a team that can win games. Remember they were 1-21 and looking worse than ever (they just got beat 119-68) when they brought Colangelo in.

If it wasn't hard to draft Embiid, why did 2 teams pass on him? It was, and still is a huge gamble.

Ericb5 · Post #810 » by **Ericb5** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 9:01 pm

E-Balla wrote:
JB2 wrote:Monster with HOF level potential. No joke.

That's exactly what he was around draft time. Injuries are the only reason he wasn't #1. But Embiid, Wiggins, Randle, Clarkson, Parker and Lavine seem to really be coming into their own and leading that class. But Embiid... man... that ceiling is scary high. I'm curious to see how he plays with Simmons and see BC trade Jah and Noel and get some pieces around the wing.

Hinkie got a raw deal.

They're 0-5. Its not hard to draft Joel Embiid (I mean everyone knew he would be amazing if he hit the court) and stack talent but it is hard to build a team that can win games. Remember they were 1-21 and looking worse than ever (they just got beat 119-68) when they brought Colangelo in.

It took balls to take Embiid with that injury at 3. Obviously everyone knew who he was talent wise.

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spursscott · Post #811 » by **spursscott** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 9:16 pm

Ericb5 wrote:
E-Balla wrote:
JB2 wrote:Monster with HOF level potential. No joke.

That's exactly what he was around draft time. Injuries are the only reason he wasn't #1. But Embiid, Wiggins, Randle, Clarkson, Parker and Lavine seem to really be coming into their own and leading that class. But Embiid... man... that ceiling is scary high. I'm curious to see how he plays with Simmons and see BC trade Jah and Noel and get some pieces around the wing.

Hinkie got a raw deal.

They're 0-5. Its not hard to draft Joel Embiid (I mean everyone knew he would be amazing if he hit the court) and stack talent but it is hard to build a team that can win games. Remember they were 1-21 and looking worse than ever (they just got beat 119-68) when they brought Colangelo in.

It took balls to take Embiid with that injury at 3. Obviously everyone knew who he was talent wise.

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Not really when you look at the draft board. It was a 3 player draft with a pretty steep drop off in talent after Embiid. Hard to say it took balls to make the obvious pick.

HotelVitale · Post #812 » by **HotelVitale** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 9:31 pm

spursscott wrote:
Ericb5 wrote:
E-Balla wrote: They're 0-5. Its not hard to draft Joel Embiid (I mean everyone knew he would be amazing if he hit the court) and stack talent but it is hard to build a team that can win games. Remember they were 1-21 and looking worse than ever (they just got beat 119-68) when they brought Colangelo in.
It took balls to take Embiid with that injury at 3. Obviously everyone knew who he was talent wise.
Not really when you look at the draft board. It was a 3 player draft with a pretty steep drop off in talent after Embiid. Hard to say it took balls to make the obvious pick.

Ugh. Do you have any idea how often over the past two+ years we've heard people on this site telling us what a sucker and schlub Hinkie was for taking Embiid? How everyone knew that big men don't come back from foot injuries, or back injuries, or how Embiid was all a media hype show to begin with, or how the Sixers were in no position to gamble, or how Aaron Gordon was actually a much better player anyway if Hinkie had a little foresight and didn't just go for the big name every time?

Give him credit where it's due now--that was a risky pick, many folks in his position wouldn't have done it, and he suffered for it (RIP Hinkie). Now we have to see if Joel stays healthy to give him the real laurels.

cksdayoff · Post #813 » by **cksdayoff** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 9:37 pm

gobert vs embiid tonight.

Catchall · Post #814 » by **Catchall** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 9:47 pm

cksdayoff wrote:gobert vs embiid tonight.

Good news for Nerlens Noel who continues to be haunted by Gobert when they meet. Actually, I'm looking forward to seeing Noel and Okafor vs. Favors and Lyles. Some really nice front-court talent there.

Post #815 » by **Marcus** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 10:05 pm

cksdayoff wrote:gobert vs embiid tonight.

I want to see what approach JoJo takes tonight in terms of getting his buckets. so far he's done a pretty good job with recognition in terms of his strengths versus the opposition he's facing. Gobert is long enough and probably quick enough with some space to defend face up Jo as long as he's not pulled too far from the cup. His length might also bother bully ball Jo so I'm anticipating finesse and fakes Jo tonight since Gobert might be block hunting in their matchup.

cksdayoff · Post #816 » by **cksdayoff** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 10:35 pm

Marcus wrote:
cksdayoff wrote:gobert vs embiid tonight.

I want to see what approach JoJo takes tonight in terms of getting his buckets. so far he's done a pretty good job with recognition in terms of his strengths versus the opposition he's facing. Gobert is long enough and probably quick enough with some space to defend face up Jo as long as he's not pulled too far from the cup. His length might also bother bully ball Jo so I'm anticipating finesse and fakes Jo tonight since Gobert might be block hunting in their matchup.

good points. i want to see if embiid can get by gobert on isos, 15 feet out from the basket. also want to see if he can draw contact on gobert and get to the line, but yeah, might be a good time to put all those hakeem moves to the test tonight against this sort of length

Post #817 » by **Marcus** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 10:40 pm

cksdayoff wrote:
Marcus wrote:
cksdayoff wrote:gobert vs embiid tonight.

I want to see what approach JoJo takes tonight in terms of getting his buckets. so far he's done a pretty good job with recognition in terms of his strengths versus the opposition he's facing. Gobert is long enough and probably quick enough with some space to defend face up Jo as long as he's not pulled too far from the cup. His length might also bother bully ball Jo so I'm anticipating finesse and fakes Jo tonight since Gobert might be block hunting in their matchup.

good points. i want to see if embiid can get by gobert on isos, 15 feet out from the basket. also want to see if he can draw contact on gobert and get to the line, but yeah, might be a good time to put all those hakeem moves to the test tonight against this sort of length

I'm assuming we get some early PnP action to force respect on Jo's jumper. from there they're either sending Gobert out after him and getting burned or making it Favors job to rotate on closeouts.

Rimruns and early offense should be used heavily by Jo this game to get his down low buckets. I think this is a game where kiddo learns the value of setting real picks to help facilitate mis-matches if he has issues scoring down low against Utah's bigs.

E-Balla · Post #818 » by **E-Balla** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 10:44 pm

Snotbubbles wrote:
E-Balla wrote:
JB2 wrote:Monster with HOF level potential. No joke.

That's exactly what he was around draft time. Injuries are the only reason he wasn't #1. But Embiid, Wiggins, Randle, Clarkson, Parker and Lavine seem to really be coming into their own and leading that class. But Embiid... man... that ceiling is scary high. I'm curious to see how he plays with Simmons and see BC trade Jah and Noel and get some pieces around the wing.

Hinkie got a raw deal.

They're 0-5. Its not hard to draft Joel Embiid (I mean everyone knew he would be amazing if he hit the court) and stack talent but it is hard to build a team that can win games. Remember they were 1-21 and looking worse than ever (they just got beat 119-68) when they brought Colangelo in.

If it wasn't hard to draft Embiid, why did 2 teams pass on him? It was, and still is a huge gamble.

It was widely considered a 3 player draft and they had the 3rd pick. Jabari is averaging 20/7/2 per 36 this year and Wiggins is averaging 23/4/1 per 36. They're not scrubs that were taken over him.

E-Balla · Post #819 » by **E-Balla** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 10:46 pm

Marcus wrote:
cksdayoff wrote:gobert vs embiid tonight.

I want to see what approach JoJo takes tonight in terms of getting his buckets. so far he's done a pretty good job with recognition in terms of his strengths versus the opposition he's facing. Gobert is long enough and probably quick enough with some space to defend face up Jo as long as he's not pulled too far from the cup. His length might also bother bully ball Jo so I'm anticipating finesse and fakes Jo tonight since Gobert might be block hunting in their matchup.

Gobert doesn't defend the face up though. Embiid will have easy buckets if he shoots. Look at what KP did to him yesterday.

Post #820 » by **Marcus** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 11:00 pm

E-Balla wrote:
Marcus wrote:
cksdayoff wrote:gobert vs embiid tonight.

I want to see what approach JoJo takes tonight in terms of getting his buckets. so far he's done a pretty good job with recognition in terms of his strengths versus the opposition he's facing. Gobert is long enough and probably quick enough with some space to defend face up Jo as long as he's not pulled too far from the cup. His length might also bother bully ball Jo so I'm anticipating finesse and fakes Jo tonight since Gobert might be block hunting in their matchup.

Gobert doesn't defend the face up though. Embiid will have easy buckets if he shoots. Look at what KP did to him yesterday.

yeah I was thinking more Jo putting it on the floor trying to get to the cup. If Gobert won't challenge the j then Jo should be fine.