Season Speculation, Trade Ideas and Discussion

[TeamTragic]

With the Wizards looking terrible early, would Wall want out? There have been rumblings about him not being happy in Washington, and I think he would be great here.

Bledsoe/Miami 2018 1st/Suns 1st/ Len

for
Wall

I really don't want to punish Bledsoe. Sending him to the Wizards with Kieff would kill me. However if I'm McD I do that deal and include a no takesies backsies clause.

[AtheJ415]

With the Wizards looking terrible early, would Wall want out? There have been rumblings about him not being happy in Washington, and I think he would be great here.

Bledsoe/Miami 2018 1st/Suns 1st/ Len

for
Wall

I really don't want to punish Bledsoe. Sending him to the Wizards with Kieff would kill me. However if I'm McD I do that deal and include a no takesies backsies clause.

I'd rather tank for a PG. Lots of monster ones in this draft. Want to build around guys between 18-25 imo, although Wall is great.

[MrMiyagi]

With the Wizards looking terrible early, would Wall want out? There have been rumblings about him not being happy in Washington, and I think he would be great here.

Bledsoe/Miami 2018 1st/Suns 1st/ Len

for
Wall

I really don't want to punish Bledsoe. Sending him to the Wizards with Kieff would kill me. However if I'm McD I do that deal and include a no takesies backsies clause.

I'd rather tank for a PG. Lots of monster ones in this draft. Want to build around guys between 18-25 imo, although Wall is great.

Let's not claim "lots of monster" point guards in this draft class yet. Not all freshmen dominate like they're projected to.

[Mr Puddles]

I wouldn't force any trade at this point. Wait until the best deal comes along, even if that means keeping Knight until the trade deadline or next year's offseason. Let's remember that McD somehow turned Kieff Morris into Chriss when the consensus on the general board seemed to be that we'd need to add assets to even move him, let alone get anything in return. We were able to find a team 1. going for a playoff push, 2. desperate for a PF, 3. and willing to take a gamble - that's the kind of perfect storm that we need to wait for when moving Knight.

No need to push the panic button at this stage of our rebuilding phase.

[thamadkant]

Wall and Booker may not fit well... IF Suns or Watson plan on making Booker a ball handler / ISO type.



Avery Bradley would be my Target... or George Hill or even Corey Joseph.



Suns / Celtics
Eric Bledsoe for Avery Bradley straight swap.

[blacksun]

Denver has a logjam in the frontcourt, and we have a surplus of guards. Im thinking something along the lines of

Suns: Eric Bledsoe/picks?
Nuggets: (Jokic or Nurkic)/fillers (Arthur/Nelson)

I would be happy to replace Alex Len with either of those Denver bigs but Jokic would be my preference. I would even ship him to Denver if necessary. As for Denver, some of them are not convinced that Mudiay is their PG of the future, so i think Bledsoe may interest them. I will also be willing to throw in multiple 2nd round picks, and maybe MIA 2018 1st if necessary.

With that being said, i think we wont be as active this year in the trade market. Maybe Tucker, or Knight if he wants out all of a sudden. These trades will probably happen in the offseason or on draft night. Ideally we ship Knight for a pick and draft OG Anunoby. We get a real point guard with our own pick, and have this lineup for 2017-2018:

Fultz/Ulis
Booker/Barbosa/Jenkins
Warren/Anunoby/Jones
Chriss/Bender/Dudley
Jokic/Chandler/Williams

[Zelaznyrules]

I want to see a lineup of Ulis, Booker, Warren, Bender/Chriss and Len. I'd sign off on any trade that made that lineup a reality. I really believe that if we can get Len to focus primarily on defending the paint, this lineup could grow into a very dangerous starting team. IMO, we're constantly underrating Ulis. Yes, he's short. But he's a KJ runner away from being the complete package offensively and despite his size, he's a pretty good defender too. And if I'm wrong and the league just punishes him all season long, at least we'll have a better idea of our shopping list come draft night.

[Zelaznyrules]

Denver has a logjam in the frontcourt, and we have a surplus of guards. Im thinking something along the lines of

Suns: Eric Bledsoe/picks?
Nuggets: (Jokic or Nurkic)/fillers (Arthur/Nelson)

I would be happy to replace Alex Len with either of those Denver bigs but Jokic would be my preference. I would even ship him to Denver if necessary. As for Denver, some of them are not convinced that Mudiay is their PG of the future, so i think Bledsoe may interest them. I will also be willing to throw in multiple 2nd round picks, and maybe MIA 2018 1st if necessary.

With that being said, i think we wont be as active this year in the trade market. Maybe Tucker, or Knight if he wants out all of a sudden. These trades will probably happen in the offseason or on draft night. Ideally we ship Knight for a pick and draft OG Anunoby. We get a real point guard with our own pick, and have this lineup for 2017-2018:

Fultz/Ulis
Booker/Barbosa/Jenkins
Warren/Anunoby/Jones
Chriss/Bender/Dudley
Jokic/Chandler/Williams

I've suggested a similar Denver trade too, I agree they are a fairly logical trading partner for us. I'm not positive what the deal would be but I do believe there is a very good win/win deal to be made with them.

[Kerrsed]

Denver has a logjam in the frontcourt, and we have a surplus of guards. Im thinking something along the lines of

Suns: Eric Bledsoe/picks?
Nuggets: (Jokic or Nurkic)/fillers (Arthur/Nelson)

I would be happy to replace Alex Len with either of those Denver bigs but Jokic would be my preference. I would even ship him to Denver if necessary. As for Denver, some of them are not convinced that Mudiay is their PG of the future, so i think Bledsoe may interest them. I will also be willing to throw in multiple 2nd round picks, and maybe MIA 2018 1st if necessary.

With that being said, i think we wont be as active this year in the trade market. Maybe Tucker, or Knight if he wants out all of a sudden. These trades will probably happen in the offseason or on draft night. Ideally we ship Knight for a pick and draft OG Anunoby. We get a real point guard with our own pick, and have this lineup for 2017-2018:

Fultz/Ulis
Booker/Barbosa/Jenkins
Warren/Anunoby/Jones
Chriss/Bender/Dudley
Jokic/Chandler/Williams

I've suggested a similar Denver trade too, I agree they are a fairly logical trading partner for us. I'm not positive what the deal would be but I do believe there is a very good win/win deal to be made with them.

Not going to happen. Denver loves that kid too much for us to get him in any capacity. Might have a shot at Nurkic, but even then the price could be more than we are willing to swallow.

There is an on going discussion about Nurkic's value and trade partners currently on the Trade Board : Click Here

A few Warriors fans are offering up a pretty hefty trade around Klay Thompson for Nurkic/Harris/1st round pick. Not only does it give the Warriors a young C that can immediately come in and rebound while also defending the paint, Harris gives them added defense at the guard position and most importantly, this frees up some much needed capspace to help retain both Curry and Durant. Honestly, both teams really should do that deal, its a very very smart deal, and there is no way in hell we could beat an offer like that.

[thamadkant]

There IS NO WAY Nuggets will trade Jokic for Bledsoe. Do you guys know how much they value him?

Bledsoe and Mudiay are too similar.... Mudiay is getting paid 1/10th of Bledsoe's salary and is 7 years younger... and BIGGER.

Nuggets have nothing to offer to the Suns and vice versa that both teams are willing to let go.

[thamadkant]

Knight, Len, Tucker
for
Brook Lopez

Simple... solves each other's problems.

Suns get their INSIDE scorer who is same age as Bledsoe.
Nets get Len and Knight who are young players who can be part of their rebuild.

[Zelaznyrules]

Knight, Len, Tucker
for
Brook Lopez

Simple... solves each other's problems.

Suns get their INSIDE scorer who is same age as Bledsoe.
Nets get Len and Knight who are young players who can be part of their rebuild.

I don't know that it really solves either team's problem but it helps us a lot more than it helps Brooklyn. IMO they'll find a much better offer than Knight for Lopez. Len has very little value and Tucker right now has negative value. And I think they want players that are young but ready to help right now and/or quality draft picks.

[gaspar]

It's mind-boggling how underrated Bledsoe is by the Suns fans.

[Qwigglez]

This was written on the Kings board

Spoiler:

* UPDATE *

Still talking with a handful of teams however what I am told is basically these 2 things .

# 1 . Kings are highly likely to wait 4-5 games with Collison before we make any moves .

# 2 . Moves would be based on how well as a teak we perform with him and in terms of if we are winning a lot more etc.

# 3 Though so far Gay has played really well as such his stock is growing a bit more . If we are not winning mostly in the next 5-6 games he will highly likely be gone within days of the next 5-6 games if not sooner .
Their are many teams very hot for Gay as it is . Kings will have no problems moving him & for good value if management is smart in what they hold out for .
Offers are coming in for Benny Mac his stock is growing a bit more as well .
We are getting calls about Koufas as well .

Unless a deal offered is to good to pass up then I do not see the Kings making a trade until a short time after the next 5-6 games.
If that is the case a trade should happen really fast there after .

In closing as much as I hate to say this if we are not competitive for making the playoffs at the trade deadline the Kings will deal Cousins however still if that does become the case he will not be traded unless a team will trade a ton to get him . He will not be traded for peanuts on the dollar or for a decent deal . We would be demanding at least 2 future # 1 picks with no lottery protections & more .

Goes along the line of what I said I would trade for Cousins.

[carey]

It's mind-boggling how underrated Bledsoe is by the Suns fans.

It's the turnovers and bad decision making. He's still a good player. It's just that after you've watched Steve Nash orchestrate the best offense in the league for 8 years your standards are probably a bit unfair to the player that replaces him. Unless we would have brought in another All-Star PG that is Nash's spiritual successor, but we didn't. We brought in Marbury's spiritual successor. Fans are disappointed.

I'm a Saints fan and I feel bad for whoever QBs the team after Drew Brees. Even if he's better than average we'll still treat him like Suns fans treat Bledsoe.

[bwgood77]

It's mind-boggling how underrated Bledsoe is by the Suns fans.

It's the turnovers and bad decision making. He's still a good player. It's just that after you've watched Steve Nash orchestrate the best offense in the league for 8 years your standards are probably a bit unfair to the player that replaces him. Unless we would have brought in another All-Star PG that is Nash's spiritual successor, but we didn't. We brought in Marbury's spiritual successor. Fans are disappointed.

I'm a Saints fan and I feel bad for whoever QBs the team after Drew Brees. Even if he's better than average we'll still treat him like Suns fans treat Bledsoe.

I think some fans are unnecessarily high and some low on him. Probably more low than high. Personally I'd like him to pass a little more, shoot a little less, and just initiate the offense a tad better (and hopefully cut down on turnovers but that's hard to do and you usually are what you are in this respect at some point). Though as many shots as Booker and Warren are getting it's not THAT big of deal he isn't passing more, considering Booker passes quite a bit as well. We likely are not trading for anyone better anyway.

I will say he's a good enough PG that if he goes down to injury again I think we'd really struggle to play close. Ulis has looked good in limited minutes, but not ready to start. Knight might play a little better starting, but he would probably also take a lot of shots away from Booker and Warren, and shoot far less efficiently, right out of games.

So Bledsoe is a necessary part of this team until we draft a starting future PG, or Ulis somehow proves he is capable of one day being an above avg or at least avg starter (which may be tough considering size).

[Djedefre]

Until we have Fultz/Smith/Fox trading Bled does not make any sense. As said above, we could not acquire anyone better than him, it would be just a cosmetic change, while hurting the rebuilding process on top of that. When we draft ourselves a young PG of the future, then we should start looking at potential trade partners. Of course, unless we are shooting on bigs, like Bolden for example, because we gave up on Olexiy. I’m pretty sure that sf’s (Jackson or Tatum) are not of interest to McD with Warren looking like capable of being a starter already, and still improving.

[jcsunsfan]

Denver has a logjam in the frontcourt, and we have a surplus of guards. Im thinking something along the lines of

Suns: Eric Bledsoe/picks?
Nuggets: (Jokic or Nurkic)/fillers (Arthur/Nelson)

I would be happy to replace Alex Len with either of those Denver bigs but Jokic would be my preference. I would even ship him to Denver if necessary. As for Denver, some of them are not convinced that Mudiay is their PG of the future, so i think Bledsoe may interest them. I will also be willing to throw in multiple 2nd round picks, and maybe MIA 2018 1st if necessary.

With that being said, i think we wont be as active this year in the trade market. Maybe Tucker, or Knight if he wants out all of a sudden. These trades will probably happen in the offseason or on draft night. Ideally we ship Knight for a pick and draft OG Anunoby. We get a real point guard with our own pick, and have this lineup for 2017-2018:

Fultz/Ulis
Booker/Barbosa/Jenkins
Warren/Anunoby/Jones
Chriss/Bender/Dudley
Jokic/Chandler/Williams

I've suggested a similar Denver trade too, I agree they are a fairly logical trading partner for us. I'm not positive what the deal would be but I do believe there is a very good win/win deal to be made with them.

Not going to happen. Denver loves that kid too much for us to get him in any capacity. Might have a shot at Nurkic, but even then the price could be more than we are willing to swallow.

There is an on going discussion about Nurkic's value and trade partners currently on the Trade Board : Click Here

A few Warriors fans are offering up a pretty hefty trade around Klay Thompson for Nurkic/Harris/1st round pick. Not only does it give the Warriors a young C that can immediately come in and rebound while also defending the paint, Harris gives them added defense at the guard position and most importantly, this frees up some much needed capspace to help retain both Curry and Durant. Honestly, both teams really should do that deal, its a very very smart deal, and there is no way in hell we could beat an offer like that.

I don't think the Suns have made a trade with Denver since McDyess. It would be odd.

[jcsunsfan]

It's mind-boggling how underrated Bledsoe is by the Suns fans.

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[DRK]

Pretty Simple trade here

Three way with Boston and Philly.
Framework of the deal is
Noel to Boston
Marcus Smart to Phoenix
Brandon Knight to Philly.


We get a great piece that will complement Booker in Smart. Tenacious defender and can play off ball while Booker runs the offence.

Celtics get a good rebounder and shot blocker in Noel, to pair with Horford. They also clear out a guard logjam of Thomas, Bradley and Rozier. With Smart gone, Rozier gets time.

Brandon Knight to Philly is simply because they need shooting and scoring from the guard spot. He will compliment Simmons and wont be asked to play Pg duties with Simmons on the court.