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Brooklyn Nets 2016-17 season Pick Watch Thread

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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2016-17 season Pick Watch Thread 

Post#821 » by hood30 » Mon Nov 7, 2016 8:01 pm

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celtxman wrote:They got out of the gate 0-7, had a huge ongoing roster shakeup, changed coaches and had no GM for a good part of the season. They were a rudderless ship. They now appear to have a good coach and the new GM is highly regarded. They don't have great talent, but they have already shown heart and hustle and I'd be surprised if they don't win more games than last year.


Have you watched the Net's games?...By the way, you are correct in your assessment...This Nets team is much better than last year team who had a lot of issues concerning coaches, system and they had no direction,,,They are now more stable with better direction.

Booker and Lin have both played well so far and looked to be upgrade to last year players at their position...Lin is hurt, but should be back in 2 weeks....These 2 players alone, if they stay healthy, should improve Nets by a lot of games.

The Nets are certainly better this year, but they also had a fully healthy Brooke Lopez last year. Take him out of the equation and they're even worse this year than they were last year despite the Lin and Booker additions.

I'm not terribly worried about the Nets being leaps and bounds better than last year. I think the issue is that now they are good enough that when good teams play down to them, they've got a chance. I think they would always have a chance against the other bottom feeders and it's a bit of a crapshoot as to whether the Sixers or Nets or Suns are going to win, but I think the Nets have a better chance (when healthy) of beating teams like us and the Bulls and Raptors than those other bottom feeding teams.

If all goes well for them I think our pick could end up in the 8-10 range. That would mean no injuries more severe than what Lin just went down with (1-2 weeks), no Lopez trade and no terribly cold stretches where Lin/Lopez/Bogs/Booker stink it up.

If all goes poorly, they're still in contention for the most ping pong balls. Lin or Lopez go down and I think that could seal their fate as a bottom 3 team.

If they fall somewhere in the middle I think we're looking at 3rd to 6th most ping pong balls. Same as last year where they are in the hunt for a top 3 finish, but some teams manage to tank below them to snag 4/5 potentially.

We should all just be happy it's supposed to be a deep draft in the top 10. We should be sitting pretty regardless.


Lopez was shut down for the final 5 games of last year when he was healthy, so there's the argument that Nets could had won maybe a few more games if he had played these games and remember that Jarret Jack suffered a season-ending injury by midway through the season, so Brooklyn was weakened by having their starting PG miss half of last season...I'm not a fan of Jack, but he was clearly better than his replacement which made the Nets worse.

So Lin being an upgrade to Jarrett Jack who missed half of last year games, one can come to conclusion that last year 21 wins team was well-below what they should had won if only Jarrett Jack hadn't gotten hurt and missed so many games...Lin may be worth, at the very least 10 additional wins since he's better than Jack.

So, at the very least, I see this Brooklyn team winning 30-35 wins...I know that may sound laughable to you guys, but my early observation are very positives and they've been in every games so far, with the exception being the Bulls game.

Lin, in 6 games, is definitely an upgrade on Jack and Booker has been great at rebounder and defense....Bojan Bogdanovic is also doing well scoring 15ppg....Nets also currently have a top 5 scoring bench unit, which is also surprising...Kilpatrick and Hamilton has looked good so far, coming off the bench and scoring the basket.

So if that holds, I have no doubt they will be a much improved team.
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2016-17 season Pick Watch Thread 

Post#822 » by Banks2Pierce » Mon Nov 7, 2016 8:06 pm

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So Lin being an upgrade to Jarrett Jack who missed half of last year games, one can come to conclusion that last year 21 games was well-below what they should had won if only Jarrett Jack hadn't gotten hurt and missed so many games...Lin may be worth, at the very least 10 additional wins since he's better than Jack.



Jeremy Lin worth 10 wins? My word.
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2016-17 season Pick Watch Thread 

Post#823 » by truth18 » Mon Nov 7, 2016 8:08 pm

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So Lin being an upgrade to Jarrett Jack who missed half of last year games, one can come to conclusion that last year 21 games was well-below what they should had won if only Jarrett Jack hadn't gotten hurt and missed so many games...Lin may be worth, at the very least 10 additional wins since he's better than Jack.



Jeremy Lin worth 10 wins? My word.


Eh, not that fair to get on the guy when he said we would find his take laughable. I disagree as well fwiw but it's not an insanely outrageous take or something.
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Post#824 » by shawn unkempt » Mon Nov 7, 2016 9:26 pm

Biggest concern is the number of absolute garbage teams this season. Dallas, New Orleans, Washington and Minnesota were all expected to be better than the steaming piles they are right now.
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2016-17 season Pick Watch Thread 

Post#825 » by SMTBSI » Mon Nov 7, 2016 9:37 pm

truth18 wrote:
Banks2Pierce wrote:
hood30 wrote:So Lin being an upgrade to Jarrett Jack who missed half of last year games, one can come to conclusion that last year 21 games was well-below what they should had won if only Jarrett Jack hadn't gotten hurt and missed so many games...Lin may be worth, at the very least 10 additional wins since he's better than Jack.

Jeremy Lin worth 10 wins? My word.

Eh, not that fair to get on the guy when he said we would find his take laughable. I disagree as well fwiw but it's not an insanely outrageous take or something.

It wouldn't be an entirely outrageous take, in the context that Lin is a clear upgrade at a (very important) position over a player who only played 32 games.

But, he did say "at the very least" 10 wins. That's where it moves from straining credibility to shattering it.
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2016-17 season Pick Watch Thread 

Post#826 » by klemen4 » Tue Nov 8, 2016 12:23 am

Long time no see my fellow posters... :)

I was super active last year in brooklyn pick watch...and it was well worth it getting brown as a result.

It's a new season and yes brooklyn is better but imo also other bottom teams got better.

Let's see:
- phi: still the worst team, no need to lose to many words.

After phi everything is possible:
- Lal: Walton coaching should bring a few more wins, it will be close with brk imo.

All others imo will be better:
- pho: has a lot of talent and interesting mix of youngsters and veterans.
- pelicans and kings are only teams i afraid off if Davis gets injured and if cousins gets traded.

So imo still brooklyn will be bottom 3, for sure bottom 5...this year I will relax and enjoy season. No more stres about brooklyn games ;)

Bottom 5, we got it ;)
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2016-17 season Pick Watch Thread 

Post#827 » by Kolkmania » Tue Nov 8, 2016 11:50 am

klemen4 wrote:Long time no see my fellow posters... :)

I was super active last year in brooklyn pick watch...and it was well worth it getting brown as a result.

It's a new season and yes brooklyn is better but imo also other bottom teams got better.

Let's see:
- phi: still the worst team, no need to lose to many words.

After phi everything is possible:
- Lal: Walton coaching should bring a few more wins, it will be close with brk imo.

All others imo will be better:
- pho: has a lot of talent and interesting mix of youngsters and veterans.
- pelicans and kings are only teams i afraid off if Davis gets injured and if cousins gets traded.

So imo still brooklyn will be bottom 3, for sure bottom 5...this year I will relax and enjoy season. No more stres about brooklyn games ;)

Bottom 5, we got it ;)


Pelicans will probably be just as bad as the Lakers if Jrue stays unavailable for a long time. Miami could become really bad as well if Whiteside gets injured. They already have Luke Babbitt starting. :lol:
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Post#828 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Nov 9, 2016 2:49 am

**** Bogey. Is it time to panic yet? (This also applies to the election results...)
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2016-17 season Pick Watch Thread 

Post#829 » by BRUNiNHO91 » Wed Nov 9, 2016 2:54 am

Package that pick off with a couple players for a big or we are getting stuck with another Marcus Smart this year.
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Post#830 » by Marvel » Wed Nov 9, 2016 2:55 am

Yeah,so Danny needs to get his effing head out his ass and trade some of these picks in a package to fill an obvious need.
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2016-17 season Pick Watch Thread 

Post#831 » by Froob » Wed Nov 9, 2016 2:59 am

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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2016-17 season Pick Watch Thread 

Post#832 » by Marvel » Wed Nov 9, 2016 3:05 am

BK are not a bad team...well not Sixers bad. They play hard and they play disciplined for a team mostly made up of role players. If they beat the Knicks tomorrow..
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Post#833 » by jcappy » Wed Nov 9, 2016 3:10 am

One or two key Nets injuries could easily translate into a top 6-7 pick.

It's going to be another one of those seasons in which we concentrate on the draft over the actual season. Esp true with a 3-4 dominant teams and the rest more or less draft-centric in outlook. We may have a greater motivation for winning than 80% of all NBA teams--no draft pick of our own (pretty certain)

And of course Brooklyn should be highly motivated in games against us.
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2016-17 season Pick Watch Thread 

Post#834 » by Bar Fight » Wed Nov 9, 2016 3:12 am

**** everything.
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Post#835 » by Gil » Wed Nov 9, 2016 3:13 am

We're only 7 games in you bedwetters. Lin's already injured, Lopez will be next. They are hitting an abnormal amount of 3's atm. They aren't this good.
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Post#836 » by Patsfan1081 » Wed Nov 9, 2016 3:15 am

I just can't buy into Brooklyn being a good team but they won again tonight shooting 55% from the field. Teams like Philly, Phoenix, and Minny have more talented players but they're young and make rookie mistakes and don't play good defense. You just have to hope these young teams develope and get better over the season and Brooklyn doesn't continue their hot shooting.
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Post#837 » by CelticsPride18 » Wed Nov 9, 2016 3:17 am

Seems like every game they are shooting over 50% from the FG.
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Post#838 » by jcappy » Wed Nov 9, 2016 3:20 am

Gil wrote:We're only 7 games in you bedwetters. Lin's already injured, Lopez will be next. They are hitting an abnormal amount of 3's atm. They aren't this good.


Good points! But I do think that the NBA is loaded up with pretty bad, not esp motivated teams. It's top heavy. Which means a lot of games are just going to be crap shoots.
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Post#839 » by Gil » Wed Nov 9, 2016 3:24 am

CelticsPride18 wrote:Seems like every game they are shooting over 50% from the FG.

Exactly. They keep hitting BS shots which is the only reason they're competing since they can't defend a lick. They'll fall back down to earth very soon.
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Post#840 » by DeRoma » Wed Nov 9, 2016 3:26 am

Gil wrote:We're only 7 games in you bedwetters. Lin's already injured, Lopez will be next. They are hitting an abnormal amount of 3's atm. They aren't this good.

True. 12 makes, we almost beat Steph Curry from last night.

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