Jahlil Okafor

[tsherkin]

Maybe thats what we should do, but all reports would indicate otherwise.

I'll be sad for Philly if they move Noels instead.

Why? It's going to cost a lot of money to keep him as Embiids backup. Why not just keep Okafor on a rookie deal for the next couple seasons?

Defense, mainly. They won't need Okafor if Embiid can stay healthy and will need lead perimeter talent. Noels has the athleticism to be of value at the 4 sometimes if Embiid can establish the J. Or maybe regardless. His D is highly valuable.

[LloydFree]

Maybe thats what we should do, but all reports would indicate otherwise.

I'll be sad for Philly if they move Noels instead.

Why? It's going to cost a lot of money to keep him as Embiids backup. Why not just keep Okafor on a rookie deal for the next couple seasons?

Because Okafor is a less useful player and the 76ers are in such good shape cap wise, Noel's impending raise is near meaningless.

[Mik317]

Noel doesn't want to come off the bench; Jah seems to be cool with it...and even if he isn't, he is under contract for 3 more years. Yeah we can match any deal but I doubt Noel's agent would be too hype about that....Colangelo isn't about burning bridges either. The Writing is on the wall.

[phifans]

Why not move both? All 3 are true Cs and they have 2 young PFs already along with 2 serviceable backup bigs. They really need talented Gs and wings and those two should return a lot.

I agree. If you can't maximize their value on the court (by bench them behind Embiid) you maximize their value on the market. It doesn't seem like we have a complete balanced talented roster anyway. Its too luxury to have two starting center come off the bench while with a nbdl level backcourt.
Plus Im just annoyed some Okafor haters from our own fan base. They really enjoy bashing Okafor anytime given a chance. Just make them stop talking those nonsense is a great reason for me to trade him away.

[SelfishPlayer]

The Nuggets are starting their two bigs but Brett Brown is adverse to starting two bigs, why? Embiid and Okafor look like they could play together. He started Okafor and Noel together but refused to play Okafor at PF when they were on the floor together. The Sixers head coach is in the way.

[LloydFree]

It's so strange to me that people are willing to write of Okafor's defense after 2/3 of a season of play. He has all the physical tools to be a good defender (not just a neutral one). If I were a team that needed a center, I'd be willing to send out a lot of assets for that potential.

Last night's game... but typical. Might explain.

[CoreyGallagher]

Last night's game... but typical. Might explain.

It was 30.4 more points per 100 possessions allowed above even his adjusted average to it.
His effort is inconsistent, but his defense was especially poor last night.

[LloydFree]

Last night's game... but typical. Might explain.

It was 30.4 more points per 100 possessions allowed above even his adjusted average to it.
His effort is inconsistent, but his defense was especially poor last night.

I agree. He's usually just comically terrible defensively. Last night he was a catastrophe.

[E-Balla]

Next to Curry splitting the double into a floater from 3 Jahlil had my favorite play of the night. This can only be described as a grown man move.

https://streamable.com/7ha8

[rzzzzz]

so the complaint is that in Joel and Jah keep trying to scrimmage on the same squad together in practice. my complaint is why Brett won't give them their shot at developing chemistry out on the court right from the get go. (If it doesn't, so be it, but not to encourage their enthusiasm, especially with the rotation on ice until Simmons gets back, is bewildering.)

[Patches Perry]

He doesn't rebound or defend, and the league is trending away from scorers who score only on 2 point shots. If you only score on 2s, you better have something to your game other than scoring.

[SelfishPlayer]

He doesn't rebound or defend, and the league is trending away from scorers who score only on 2 point shots. If you only score on 2s, you better have something to your game other than scoring.

The league is about scoring in the paint and getting to the free throw line. Lebron James, Tim Duncan, Kobe Bryant, and Dewayne Wade are still the modern greats with all of the rings. This "trend" has only produced a single championship for the Warriors.

[Patches Perry]

He doesn't rebound or defend, and the league is trending away from scorers who score only on 2 point shots. If you only score on 2s, you better have something to your game other than scoring.

The league is about scoring in the paint and getting to the free throw line. Lebron James, Tim Duncan, Kobe Bryant, and Dewayne Wade are still the modern greats with all of the rings. This "trend" has only produced a single championship for the Warriors.

The players you mentioned are all defensively elite and more than scorers offensively. And Miami, San Antonio and Dallas were all heavy on threes. I'd say we're half a decade into this trend.

[SelfishPlayer]

He doesn't rebound or defend, and the league is trending away from scorers who score only on 2 point shots. If you only score on 2s, you better have something to your game other than scoring.

The league is about scoring in the paint and getting to the free throw line. Lebron James, Tim Duncan, Kobe Bryant, and Dewayne Wade are still the modern greats with all of the rings. This "trend" has only produced a single championship for the Warriors.

The players you mentioned are all defensively elite and more than scorers offensively. And Miami, San Antonio and Dallas were all heavy on threes. I'd say we're half a decade into this trend.

Pau Gasol was crucial to Kobe's titles post Shaq and he wasn't defensively elite but he certainly scored in the paint and got to the free throw line. All of these guys mentioned were surrounded by talented players. Okafor has played with what All Stars? What would Okafor look like if he played with Ray Allen in his prime?

[LloydFree]

He doesn't rebound or defend, and the league is trending away from scorers who score only on 2 point shots. If you only score on 2s, you better have something to your game other than scoring.

Exactly. There are three types of player that are valuable in the NBA: Rim protectors, Shooters and guys that are great at nearly everything else. If you don't fall into one of those categories, then it's sit on the bench until your number is called. Okafor is a horrific defender, a below average rebounder, and a mediocre shooter. There are no great players like that.

[Patches Perry]

The league is about scoring in the paint and getting to the free throw line. Lebron James, Tim Duncan, Kobe Bryant, and Dewayne Wade are still the modern greats with all of the rings. This "trend" has only produced a single championship for the Warriors.

The players you mentioned are all defensively elite and more than scorers offensively. And Miami, San Antonio and Dallas were all heavy on threes. I'd say we're half a decade into this trend.

Pau Gasol was crucial to Kobe's titles post Shaq and he wasn't defensively elite but he certainly scored in the paint and got to the free throw line. All of these guys mentioned were surrounded by talented players. Okafor has played with what All Stars? What would Okafor look like if he played with Ray Allen in his prime?

I said about half a decade so Lakers are the last "big" team to win it. Of course it's possible things change, but I just don't see Okafor being a big impact player on an elite team unless he drastically improves defensively and becomes a rim protector. Enes Kanter is kind of similar to Okafor at the moment, incredibly gifted as a scorer but not much else (and Kanter rebounds much better) and yet Kanter can't even get on the court in matchups against elite small-ball teams.

[SelfishPlayer]

The players you mentioned are all defensively elite and more than scorers offensively. And Miami, San Antonio and Dallas were all heavy on threes. I'd say we're half a decade into this trend.

Pau Gasol was crucial to Kobe's titles post Shaq and he wasn't defensively elite but he certainly scored in the paint and got to the free throw line. All of these guys mentioned were surrounded by talented players. Okafor has played with what All Stars? What would Okafor look like if he played with Ray Allen in his prime?

I said about half a decade so

You didn't say that in the INITIAL post that I responded to. It doesn't matter because the "trend" looks the same. Superstars that score in the paint and shoot free throws are where the good championship money is to be found. The Warriors are the only outlier and they did so by being an extremely healthy team when their competition were hit by major injuries. The "trend" that I'm referring to goes back decades... It doesn't matter what the non champions do. How are THE CHAMPIONS getting the trophy? They get in that paint and get to the free throw line.

[LloydFree]

...How are THE CHAMPIONS getting the trophy? They get in that paint and get to the free throw line.

Feast your eyes on CHAMPIONSHIP Center folks...

[SelfishPlayer]

...How are THE CHAMPIONS getting the trophy? They get in that paint and get to the free throw line.

Feast your eyes on CHAMPIONSHIP Center folks...

That looks like soft Ersan's mistake. Ersan couldn't attempt to take his usual charge so he flaked out on the shot contest. You would REALLY have to hate Okafor or not know what you're looking at to fault Okafor there more than Ersan.

[LloydFree]

...How are THE CHAMPIONS getting the trophy? They get in that paint and get to the free throw line.

Feast your eyes on CHAMPIONSHIP Center folks...
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That looks like soft Ersan's mistake. Ersan couldn't attempt to take his usual charge so he flaked out on the shot contest. You would REALLY have to hate Okafor or not know what you're looking at to fault Okafor there more than Ersan.

Un-friggin-believable. Rudy Gobert drives into and around Okafor (who barely moves his feet on a 20 foot drive to the hoop by a 7'2 center) for an easy dunk, and somehow it's Ilysova's fault. Okafor should put some of you on his payroll.