Political Roundtable Part XI

[AFM]

Where did you see a 12% lead? I've been seeing mostly 2-5% (a few had Trump barely ahead). 12% seems like such an outlier that it's begging to be ignored.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/10/23/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-presidential-polls/index.html

This was all over the news two weeks ago Monte...
It was the number one news story for a few days.

And guess what?

If you look at the polling details:
They polled mostly democrats.

Wow, can't believe a poll, polling mostly democrats,
Showed a huge lead for Hillary. Wow!

Kind of like that 10% lead for "stay" during the brexit campaign!

The partisan polling looks like it corresponds to the numbers of registered voters 36-27-31 Democrat/Independent/Republican.

I've mostly followed 538 and never noticed that poll, which probably was adjusted downward as an outlier.

??
40-something percent of the country is independent.

Hence, tonight's result and not this 12 percent lead for HRC.

[JWizmentality]

The very thought of Obama "turning over the keys" to a man who questioned his birthright, his academic achievements etc etc just bothers me on a visceral level.

Yeah, I can't even watch that ****.

No kiddin. nate was right...not that Trump would somehow get substantial minority vote, but that the white vote would turn out. And turn out they did. The America of yesterday beat the America of tomorrow, but this was mostly due to what a horrible candidate Hiliary was. Didn't want to vote for her and if the Repubs presented a viable candidate like Kasich, I would have voted for him.

Well, life goes on. Whether this turns out good or bad, I hope the Trump supporters are ready to accept the potential far reaching consequences of their vote. You wont be able to blame Obama. Nite all.

[AFM]

The very thought of Obama "turning over the keys" to a man who questioned his birthright, his academic achievements etc etc just bothers me on a visceral level.

Yeah, I can't even watch that ****.

No kiddin. nate was right...not that Trump would somehow get substantial minority vote, but that the white vote would turn out. And turn out they did. The America of yesterday beat the America of tomorrow, but this was mostly due to what a horrible candidate Hiliary was. Didn't want to vote for her and if the Repubs presented a viable candidate like Kasich, I would have voted for him.

Well, life goes on. Whether this turns out good or bad, I hope the Trump supporters are ready to accept the potential far reaching consequences of their vote. You wont be able to blame Obama. Nite all.

At least you admit HRC was a terrible candidate

Bernie would have crushed Trump...IMO!

[Kanyewest]

The very thought of Obama "turning over the keys" to a man who questioned his birthright, his academic achievements etc etc just bothers me on a visceral level.

Yeah, I can't even watch that ****.

No kiddin. nate was right...not that Trump would somehow get substantial minority vote, but that the white vote would turn out. And turn out they did. The America of yesterday beat the America of tomorrow, but this was mostly due to what a horrible candidate Hiliary was. Didn't want to vote for her and if the Repubs presented a viable candidate like Kasich, I would have voted for him.

Well, life goes on. Whether this turns out good or bad, I hope the Trump supporters are ready to accept the potential far reaching consequences of their vote. You wont be able to blame Obama. Nite all.

At least you admit HRC was a terrible candidate

Bernie would have crushed Trump...IMO!

I've been saying this all along. I'm upset that people in my family voted for Hillary because she was more electable.

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[pineappleheadindc]

The two biggest losers tonight (outside of the Clintons) -- one from each side:

Dem: Bernie Sanders. He's thinking WTF, I really *do* hate that Debbie Wasserman Schultz now.

Repub: Ohio Governor John Kasich, who refused to endorse Trump. Dude, even Ted Cruz ended up endorsing him. Now you're gonna get frozen out by the base.

[montestewart]

The polls had me down but...

[montestewart]

??
40-something percent of the country is independent.

Hence, tonight's result and not this 12 percent lead for HRC.

Obviously they were doing a little poll dancing

[AFM]

Who would you rather have??

Trump as president??

Or

E.G. As GM for another 8 years???

[tontoz]

Wow. I am completely stunned. What an epic F U to the political elites and the mainstream media.

Nate must be like

[Induveca]

Wow. I am completely stunned. What an epic F U to the political elites and the mainstream media.

Nate must be like

Well stated. I was sincerely frightened of having Clinton in office, just too corrupt. Trump isn't ideal, but far better choice out of the two.

[AFM]

Tonight will go down in this history books, from now until the end of time.

Regardless of your politics:
The idea that an outsider,
With no political experience,
With every media group against him,
His own political party against him,
All the banks against him,
And so on,

Can become president,

Is incredible.

Today is one of the most momentous days in US history.

[Induveca]

Tonight will go down in this history books, from now until the end of time.

Regardless of your politics:
The idea that an outsider,
With no political experience,
With every media group against him,
His own political party against him,
All the banks against him,
And so on,

Can become president,

Is incredible.

Today is one of the most momentous days in US history.

Well stated. Same reason I can't stop watching the CNN reporters squirm for hours on end. Crazy.

[Benjammin]

Some gracious words from the President elect. Now we'll see if his actions can match those words.

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[AFM]

Donald sounding like MLK mixed with Gandhi!

[AFM]

Donald is so YUGE he crashed RealGM!

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

You want to know what song they're playing in the Trump residence?

You down with OPP?

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Donald is so YUGE he crashed RealGM!

I didn't know what the f was going on!

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[closg00]

I am hopeful, Clinton won the popular vote and Trump isn't really a conservative so I hope he surprises in good ways.

[I_Like_Dirt]

This really needs to be a wakeup call to the Dems. They continually (and often rightly) point to the conservative echo chamber that exists, but they created a really strong one of their own this election. And honestly, I wonder if that wasn't a part of the brilliance (intended or not) of Trump as a candidate, because trying to talk to anyone who intended to vote Democrat or who supported them, Hillary and all, about the fact that Trump might win and that there was real frustration out there in the electorate that the Democrats weren't willing to address tended to prompt loud, emotional responses prompted by a shutting down of the conversation. Honestly, not so different from Republican pundits who kept saying that Trump would flame out before the primaries started. And really, the Democrats had their own massive warning alarm with Bernie, but they chose to try and quiet it down enough to make Hillary the candidate and then opted to ignore once she was the candidate.

And it turns out that the Obamas telling people to vote for Hillary isn't quite as motivating in terms of getting people out to vote as the Obamas telling people to vote for Obama himself. Go figure? I mean, if the Obamas told everyone to go out and eat black liquorice for a day, nobody would do it except for maybe a few scattered freaks and weirdos likely on various government registries. There is a distinct difference in terms of just how motivated people are to take guidance based on how appealing they actually find that guidance. And as an aside, I still think there will never be true equality until black liquorice tastes like anything besides sugar and hate.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I am hopeful, Clinton won the popular vote and Trump isn't really a conservative so I hope he surprises in good ways.

Hopeful, indeed!

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