PG Thread: Making The Knicks Great Again

[ctorres]

At this rate, both Melo and KP will both be allstars this season. Maybe both might get enough fan votes to start?

I don't think Rose will get voted in as a starter. To get selected as a reserve, Knicks will have to get to the top of the Atlantic division, 2nd or 3rd best overall record in the East, and his individual numbers probably need to be somewhere along the lines of 17/5/6. Otherwise he'll have a hard time beating out Isaiah Thomas, Avery Bradley, DeMar DeRozan, Kyle Lowry, and Kemba Walker for a spot.

Probably won't have three allstars, but it would be dope! I think Melo and KP should both make it in as long as the Knicks do not have a meltdown.

[2010]

Yes. Willy is playing much better D for us now than he ever did for us last year.

Not hard since he didn't play any D for us last year since he wasn't on the roster

I think he was showing his wisdom by beink a wise guy.

His defense in preseason and overseas was weak.

Really, Capn'O?!

[KnicksGadfly]

Willy is an underated defender. He defended that paint better than noah today.

I don't think he's underrated so much as he played way better on D than he ever has for us before. I reckon he's been practicing rotations and positioning. He moved with purpose on that end.

Yes. Willy is playing much better D for us now than he ever did for us last year.

Yea, I never noticed his presence in the game last year. It's a lot more noticeable now.

[Knicksfan20]

Willy is an underated defender. He defended that paint better than noah today.

I don't think he's underrated so much as he played way better on D than he ever has for us before. I reckon he's been practicing rotations and positioning. He moved with purpose on that end.

Yeah I don't see how he is underated... His defense has been pretty terrible actually outside of this one game... Zach Randolph abused him in the paint and on the glass. Was hard to watch and Horny made the right decision to pull him quick for Oquinn that game. Very well could have lost that game off Willys defense alone. But Zach is a vet and one of the best 1v1 bigman scorers in the game.

Also Willy is still young and learning the game.. Still needs to get stronger.. Not writing him off as a crap defender yet, still have hope he can be somewhat decent. But playing a good defensive game against the Nets doesn't have me jumping out of my seat quite yet.

[SelbyCobra]

[AmazingJason]

At this rate, both Melo and KP will both be allstars this season. Maybe both might get enough fan votes to start?

I don't think Rose will get voted in as a starter. To get selected as a reserve, Knicks will have to get to the top of the Atlantic division, 2nd or 3rd best overall record in the East, and his individual numbers probably need to be somewhere along the lines of 17/5/6. Otherwise he'll have a hard time beating out Isaiah Thomas, Avery Bradley, DeMar DeRozan, Kyle Lowry, and Kemba Walker for a spot.

Probably won't have three allstars, but it would be dope! I think Melo and KP should both make it in as long as the Knicks do not have a meltdown.

LeBron James (Cle) 1.089.206
Paul George (Ind) 711.595
Carmelo Anthony (NY) 567.348
Pau Gasol (Chi) 566.988
Andre Drummond (Det) 515.296
Kristaps Porzingis (NY) 473.579


This was the 2016 East frontcourt ballot.

If KP keeps up his scoring, I believe he has a great chance of overtaking Melo in the voting and becoming an All-Star starter, most likely alongside LeBron and Dwight Howard.

I could see KP starting and Melo not being voted in by the coaches. We won't win enough games to deserve two All-Stars. You figure Drummond, Paul George, Antetokounmpo, Millsap, and Butler would be looked at ahead of Melo.

[RHODEY]

Bad way of looking at things. They hardly played cuz it was the damn Nets. The backups looked good cuz it was the Nets........backups. I'm not trying to ruin the win but not trying to use it to prove that anyone near the top of our depth chart should be bumped or could've been better off without.

Only the Nets arent scrubs at all his year. The backups look good because they are good and were finally given the opportunity to show their stuff in extended minutes. Meanwhile the dead weight (mainly LT) was finally relegated to the bench. This was the first game where we got solid play from our starters AND bench. The result was a near blowout win against a team that wont beat themselves. No minor accomplishment either way you look at it IMO.

I'm not saying anyone is an easy out but cmon, if we expect to turn this season around and there's still plenty of time to do so we gotta handle teams like this. I was just responding to his perception that this game proved we don't need Rose or Noah. Knicks fans are like crabs in a bucket some times. One good game and whoever spent more time on the bench becomes expendable. It was a team effort

ok sorry, yep I agree wholeheartedly.

[Jalen Bluntson]

We beat a team we were supposed to and we made adjustments to get our act together. We suffered a miserable shooting first half. Bad defense. Came out at the half and whooped on them. That is all you can ask for. The next 2 games are a real good test and we need both of them. Then the bandwagon will fill up. All aboard the Bipolar Express!

[ctorres]

At this rate, both Melo and KP will both be allstars this season. Maybe both might get enough fan votes to start?

I don't think Rose will get voted in as a starter. To get selected as a reserve, Knicks will have to get to the top of the Atlantic division, 2nd or 3rd best overall record in the East, and his individual numbers probably need to be somewhere along the lines of 17/5/6. Otherwise he'll have a hard time beating out Isaiah Thomas, Avery Bradley, DeMar DeRozan, Kyle Lowry, and Kemba Walker for a spot.

Probably won't have three allstars, but it would be dope! I think Melo and KP should both make it in as long as the Knicks do not have a meltdown.

LeBron James (Cle) 1.089.206
Paul George (Ind) 711.595
Carmelo Anthony (NY) 567.348
Pau Gasol (Chi) 566.988
Andre Drummond (Det) 515.296
Kristaps Porzingis (NY) 473.579


This was the 2016 East frontcourt ballot.

If KP keeps up his scoring, I believe he has a great chance of overtaking Melo in the voting and becoming an All-Star starter, most likely alongside LeBron and Dwight Howard.

I could see KP starting and Melo not being voted in by the coaches. We won't win enough games to deserve two All-Stars. You figure Drummond, Paul George, Antetokounmpo, Millsap, and Butler would be looked at ahead of Melo.

I know Paul George is good, but it amazes me he is about 150k votes more popular than Melo. You don't see any chance that George suffers a dip in votes this year as a result of the rise of Porzingis? I think most people voting Porzingis would probably vote for Melo as well. Lebron would get the most votes regardless.

I do hope Melo has the maturity to not be bitter if KP makes the allstar team but he doesn't. Other than his Olympic gold medals, you know Melo REALLY cares about his number of Allstar appearances. This season could be his 10th Allstar game.

[Polk377]

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I was wondering where they were tonight. Ron Baker just knows how to play. I wonder how long it will take for him to work into a regular rotation spot. Plumlee is good too and might play himself into the rotation down the line. The team needs a big body defender in the paint to stop the layup line to the basket.

[3toheadmelo]

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[AmazingJason]

At this rate, both Melo and KP will both be allstars this season. Maybe both might get enough fan votes to start?

I don't think Rose will get voted in as a starter. To get selected as a reserve, Knicks will have to get to the top of the Atlantic division, 2nd or 3rd best overall record in the East, and his individual numbers probably need to be somewhere along the lines of 17/5/6. Otherwise he'll have a hard time beating out Isaiah Thomas, Avery Bradley, DeMar DeRozan, Kyle Lowry, and Kemba Walker for a spot.

Probably won't have three allstars, but it would be dope! I think Melo and KP should both make it in as long as the Knicks do not have a meltdown.

LeBron James (Cle) 1.089.206
Paul George (Ind) 711.595
Carmelo Anthony (NY) 567.348
Pau Gasol (Chi) 566.988
Andre Drummond (Det) 515.296
Kristaps Porzingis (NY) 473.579


This was the 2016 East frontcourt ballot.

If KP keeps up his scoring, I believe he has a great chance of overtaking Melo in the voting and becoming an All-Star starter, most likely alongside LeBron and Dwight Howard.

I could see KP starting and Melo not being voted in by the coaches. We won't win enough games to deserve two All-Stars. You figure Drummond, Paul George, Antetokounmpo, Millsap, and Butler would be looked at ahead of Melo.

I know Paul George is good, but it amazes me he is about 150k votes more popular than Melo. You don't see any chance that George suffers a dip in votes this year as a result of the rise of Porzingis? I think most people voting Porzingis would probably vote for Melo as well. Lebron would get the most votes regardless.

I do hope Melo has the maturity to not be bitter if KP makes the allstar team but he doesn't. Other than his Olympic gold medals, you know Melo REALLY cares about his number of Allstar appearances. This season could be his 10th Allstar game.

I think the top 3 will be LeBron, Dwight and one of George, Melo or KP.

If neither Melo or KP get voted in, I think coaches would consider Melo over KP due to seniority and respect for his career.

[Drazen8]

How about BroLo to San Antonio? That would be awesome

I was watching the 4th quarter of their game tonight and thought the same thing.

[Jalen Bluntson]

LOL Are people really talking about not needing Noah and Rose? Noah is overpaid but his impact is huge. The locker room is his. You can believe that. The passion he brings is infectious. So is the toughness.

Rose is what he is. We have seen him look to pass more. His abilities to stretch the defense and keep them on their heels is huge. Especially when he looks to pass. He is instant offense if you need it. The idea that we don't need either is silly.

It is 7 games people. Stop with all of the craziness. We aren't finished becoming a team yet.

[Rotten Apple]

LeBron James (Cle) 1.089.206
Paul George (Ind) 711.595
Carmelo Anthony (NY) 567.348
Pau Gasol (Chi) 566.988
Andre Drummond (Det) 515.296
Kristaps Porzingis (NY) 473.579


This was the 2016 East frontcourt ballot.

If KP keeps up his scoring, I believe he has a great chance of overtaking Melo in the voting and becoming an All-Star starter, most likely alongside LeBron and Dwight Howard.

I could see KP starting and Melo not being voted in by the coaches. We won't win enough games to deserve two All-Stars. You figure Drummond, Paul George, Antetokounmpo, Millsap, and Butler would be looked at ahead of Melo.

I know Paul George is good, but it amazes me he is about 150k votes more popular than Melo. You don't see any chance that George suffers a dip in votes this year as a result of the rise of Porzingis? I think most people voting Porzingis would probably vote for Melo as well. Lebron would get the most votes regardless.

I do hope Melo has the maturity to not be bitter if KP makes the allstar team but he doesn't. Other than his Olympic gold medals, you know Melo REALLY cares about his number of Allstar appearances. This season could be his 10th Allstar game.

I think the top 3 will be LeBron, Dwight and one of George, Melo or KP.

If neither Melo or KP get voted in, I think coaches would consider Melo over KP due to seniority and respect for his career.

Its very early, Melo's numbers are slight better right now, KP has advantages in his splits. Either way hopefully we have 1 Knick at the game to represent. KP will likely dominate the Rising Stars Challenge again either way, I'd also like to see him in the 3 point shootout and skills challenge. Let it be a KP showcase if he doesn't get in the game.

[EnigmatiC]

I could only imagine what that GT looked like during the first half

[Dantares]

whats encouraging to me is seeing Kuz, Willy and Sasha all getting out there despite barely getting any PT. This leads me to believe Chasson is going to get a chance to become a rotation player too. And I think he is going to kill it like he did in the summer league and pre-season.

[Rotten Apple]

I want to see how KP adjusts to not being left open off the pick n pop. Teams are literally leaving him and I feel like if he continues to make them pay then they'll start sticking to him more so he doesn't get open shots. I really hope he can start working on the elbow and in the post to get some baskets.

[oldschooled]

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Reminded me of something about the 90's Bulls. Kukoc tried to help this player then Pip and MJ got mad at him

If i remember correctly, Pip also slapped Kukoc's hand.

[Icandoallthings]

Meh We beat a banged up Net team coming off a back to back, today was a gift. My only real takeaway was seeing different lineups get time together which looked a lot better than other games. We win 1 out of the next 2 then I can start believing again.