Political Roundtable Part XI

[TGW]

the only difference between the US and Russia is that Russia made their hackings public.

[dckingsfan]

Go David Brooks
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/08/opinion/lets-not-do-this-again.html?_r=0

[montestewart]

Indu you savage!

Never got the PM BTW!

[montestewart]

Trump's election is going to be the biggest PHUCK YOU ever recorded in human history. -- Michael Moore

The Holocaust has been displaced? Trump ekes out another nailbiter!

[tontoz]

I read earlier today that Hillary's first reaction to Trumps victory was to blame Comey, the guy who refused to indict her.

Hillary spent her career trying to bend the rules to suit her and this time it bit her in the ass. A very fitting end to her career.

[AFM]

I read earlier today that Hillary's first reaction to Trumps victory was to blame Comey, the guy who refused to indict her.

Hillary spent her career trying to bend the rules to suit her and this time it bit her in the ass. A very fitting end to her career.

Bigots
Sexists
Racists
Johnson Supporters
Stein Supporters
Wikileaks
Russia
Anthony Weiner
Sanders Supporters
Comey

Choose one! Just don't choose Hillary and the DNC!

[closg00]

the only difference between the US and Russia is that Russia made their hackings public.

No it isn't, they did more. Russia, wanting a President Trump, hacked into his opponents party, and provided their inter-personal communications to a third party for dissemination. This is a direct intervention that the other side would have screamed bloody murder and had hearings for years. Republicans, since it benefited their side, didn't utter a peep about the harmful precedent that has been set hear.

[montestewart]

I read earlier today that Hillary's first reaction to Trumps victory was to blame Comey, the guy who refused to indict her.

Hillary spent her career trying to bend the rules to suit her and this time it bit her in the ass. A very fitting end to her career.

Trump's going to have to deal with what looks like a schism between the FBI and DOJ that can't be completely explained away by partisanship, and some reports indicate that schism is internal to the FBI as well.

That Comey report to Congress may have made a difference (maybe even the final deciding difference) but reports indicate that the info was going to come out with or without him, and it might have looked even worse if leaked outside of official channels.

[TGW]

Go David Brooks
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/08/opinion/lets-not-do-this-again.html?_r=0

That's a terrible article, and it's premise is COMPLETELY wrong.

The Republican Party will probably remain the white working-class party, favoring closed trade, closed borders and American withdrawal abroad. The Democratic Party, meanwhile, is increasingly dominated by its left/Sanders wing, which offers its own populism of the left..

The Democratic Party is dominated by the Sanders wing? On what planet is that even remotely true? I guess Brooks hasn't been paying attention at all during this campaign cycle. The DNC SABOTAGED Sanders.

There has to be a party for those who are now homeless. There has to be a party as confidently opposed to populism as populists are in favor of it.

There has to be a compassionate globalist party, one that embraces free trade while looking after those who suffer from trade; that embraces continued skilled immigration while listening to those hurt by immigration; that embraces widening ethnic diversity while understanding that diversity can weaken social trust.

This is just a whiny proposition of the current Democratic Party.

Globalist? Check.
Free trade and open borders? Check.
Pandering to diversity while not doing anything to create diversity? Check.

There has to be a patriotic party that understands that the world benefits when America serves as the leading and energetic superpower.

Hey...there goes that good ol' American Exceptionalism thing. Sounds like third-way democratic rubbish as usual.

This dude is just being a crybaby, and is typical of these centrists democrats.

[Induveca]

the only difference between the US and Russia is that Russia made their hackings public.

No it isn't, they did more. Russia, wanting a President Trump, hacked into his opponents party, and provided their inter-personal communications to a third party for dissemination. This is a direct intervention that the other side would have screamed bloody murder and had hearings for years. Republicans, since it benefited their side, didn't utter a peep about the harmful precedent that has been set hear.

Give me a break. Wikileaks and Assange himself have both stated publicly Russia was not the source of the leaks.

Assange did state the source would surprise/shock a lot of people.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ibtimes.co.uk/julian-assange-feels-sorry-hillary-clinton-rules-out-russia-wikileaks-source-1589618?client=safari

[I_Like_Dirt]

Here's the big thing about the election. Trump got a very similar total number of votes to Romney. Hillary, on the flipside, got waaaaay fewer total votes than Obama did. The results may or may not change, but if they don't, Trump actually got fewer votes than Romney, in fact. Yes, I understand the electoral college is a bit different in how they portion seats, but this is where Hillary just fell apart. And try to find other factors to blame all you want, but the reality is that Hillary didn't get those voters out to the primaries, either, and was clearly not inspiring people in the polls leading up to the election, as she was way more unfavorable than Obama in that respect. And it's true that being more unfavorable than Obama isn't a bad thing because that's a pretty high standard, but there's a big gap. She lost over 10% of Obama's total votes; basically turned a massive section of potential democratic voters into people who just didn't vote because they didn't care to vote. Hillary keeping voter turnout low helped her against Sanders in the primaries, but destroyed her in the election, and just assuming that it would be easy to reverse that trend from primaries to election was a big mistake by the DNC.

[Induveca]

Bizarre.

[Zonkerbl]

Hey guys what's going on? Anything interesting happen lately politically?

[AFM]

Hey guys what's going on? Anything interesting happen lately politically?

Umm.... Van Hollen was elected Senator!

[dckingsfan]

... Hillary, on the flipside, got waaaaay fewer total votes than Obama did.
... but this is where Hillary just fell apart.
... but the reality is that Hillary didn't get those voters out to the primaries, either, and was clearly not inspiring people
... she lost over 10% of Obama's total votes

This...

[montestewart]

Bizarre.

I like the symbolism of the fireless fireplace between them. Ya can't start a fire without a spark.

Watch on YouTube

[Zonkerbl]

Hey guys what's going on? Anything interesting happen lately politically?

Umm.... Van Hollen was elected Senator!

Holy crap! So exciting!

And pot is legal in California and Massachusetts and Nevada and Maine! Woohoo!

[closg00]

Funny, pot enjoys bi-partisan support...quite popular actually.

[montestewart]

Funny, pot enjoys bi-partisan support...quite popular actually.

This is one thing that Democrats and...what were we talking about?

[AFM]

Funny, pot enjoys bi-partisan support...quite popular actually.

This is one thing that Democrats and...what were we talking about?

What is Aleppo?

*takes long puff and passes to PIF*