Political Roundtable Part XI

[AFM]

Compare that to Ted Leonsis who is completely delusional and it is very much not working.

[FreeBalling]

http://www.infowars.com/shock-video-black-mob-viciously-beats-white-trump-voter/

This makes me ashamed. Listen what the attackers chant as they beat the hell out of some poor old white guy. "You voted trump" etc etc.

It's an election, not a war. I've sent this video to all my family members and friends DENOUNCING IT. I suggest EVERYONE do the same.

That video is disturbing and race related without a doubt. It's just some old man getting his ass beat for no reason other than he is white. I see a lot of violent protesters in the Democratic community. When Obama was elected I do not recall rural farmers rioting and protesting the first black president.

Look at the county level across the United States for voting in the link below. There are pockets of Blue across the US dominated by Red counties. The Electoral College is in place to insure large cities (pockets of blue) do not dominate an election.

I see nothing wrong with America first. Americans should have first crack at American jobs. It would be great if we ALL could love each other and help OUR communities more.

SOMETHING ELSE: Hillary told the people what they wanted to hear to get elected. She has flip flopped on issues over and over. Just empty words politicians use to get elected. Say one thing do something else.

You can say what you want about Trump, However, he did not put on kid gloves or give politically correct speeches to get a message across. In other words Trump did not lie to your face about what he was thinking.

http://www.usatoday.com/pages/interactives/how-the-election-unfolded/

[AFM]

http://www.infowars.com/shock-video-black-mob-viciously-beats-white-trump-voter/

This makes me ashamed. Listen what the attackers chant as they beat the hell out of some poor old white guy. "You voted trump" etc etc.

It's an election, not a war. I've sent this video to all my family members and friends DENOUNCING IT. I suggest EVERYONE do the same.

That video is disturbing and race related without a doubt. It's just some old man getting his ass beat for no reason other than he is white. I see a lot of violent protesters in the Democratic community. When Obama was elected I do not recall rural farmers rioting and protesting the first black president.

Look at the county level across the United States for voting in the link below. There are pockets of Blue across the US dominated by Red counties. The Electoral College is in place to insure large cities (pockets of blue) do not dominate an election.

I see nothing wrong with America first. Americans should have first crack at American jobs. It would be great if we ALL could love each other and help OUR communities more.

SOMETHING ELSE: Hillary told the people what they wanted to hear to get elected. She has flip flopped on issues over and over. Just empty words politicians use to get elected. Say one thing do something else.

You can say what you want about Trump, However, he did not put on kid gloves or give politically correct speeches to get a message across. In other words Trump did not lie to your face about what he was thinking.

http://www.usatoday.com/pages/interactives/how-the-election-unfolded/

De opresso liber. Someone you were related to? RIP.

[FreeBalling]

De opresso liber. Someone you were related to? RIP.

I am aware of how this comment pertains to the Amry. Could you provide some clarity to the reasoning for the comment.

Just because some people do not share your EXACT views does not mean they are an oppressor. I try to be objective in life because I can not see everyone's viewpoint. I do not vote party lines. I make my own educated decisions in life.

[AFM]

De opresso liber. Someone you were related to? RIP.

I am aware of how this comment pertains to the Amry. Could you provide some clarity to the reasoning for the comment.

Just because some people do not share your EXACT views does not mean they are an oppressor. I try to be objective in life because I can not see everyone's viewpoint. I do not vote party lines. I make my own educated decisions in life.

I was referencing your signature? Special Forces motto.

[montestewart]

Look at the county level across the United States for voting in the link below. There are pockets of Blue across the US dominated by Red counties. The Electoral College is in place to insure large cities (pockets of blue) do not dominate an election.

The bolded above may be an effect of the Electoral College, but that is not why it is in place, unless it is an unstated (anywhere, as far as I can see) reason that it is maintained. Anyway, the Electoral College functions much differently than the framers intended. Originally, voters merely elected people who they trusted to choose a president. Madison and Hamilton were opposed to direct voting (which they considered subject to passion and ignorance) and granting all of a states electoral votes to the candidate garnering the most electors or votes (which they thought left the system too vulnerable to politics).

Agree the video is horrible, reminds me of the Reginald Denny beating video.

[Dat2U]

http://www.infowars.com/shock-video-black-mob-viciously-beats-white-trump-voter/

This makes me ashamed. Listen what the attackers chant as they beat the hell out of some poor old white guy. "You voted trump" etc etc.

It's an election, not a war. I've sent this video to all my family members and friends DENOUNCING IT. I suggest EVERYONE do the same.

That video is disturbing and race related without a doubt. It's just some old man getting his ass beat for no reason other than he is white. I see a lot of violent protesters in the Democratic community. When Obama was elected I do not recall rural farmers rioting and protesting the first black president.

Look at the county level across the United States for voting in the link below. There are pockets of Blue across the US dominated by Red counties. The Electoral College is in place to insure large cities (pockets of blue) do not dominate an election.

I see nothing wrong with America first. Americans should have first crack at American jobs. It would be great if we ALL could love each other and help OUR communities more.

SOMETHING ELSE: Hillary told the people what they wanted to hear to get elected. She has flip flopped on issues over and over. Just empty words politicians use to get elected. Say one thing do something else.

You can say what you want about Trump, However, he did not put on kid gloves or give politically correct speeches to get a message across. In other words Trump did not lie to your face about what he was thinking.

http://www.usatoday.com/pages/interactives/how-the-election-unfolded/

First off, the video was disgusting. I think anyone of any race can recognize how ugly it was. And it's not representative of most blacks or liberal views. Sadly there's wretched people of all colors, religions & creeds. Using the video as some sort of provocation to question liberal/racial attitudes falls into the typical red meat served by the right to make others seem less human or their causes somehow less worthy.

Secondly your last sentence is nonsense. Trump simply lies about basically everything and literally said anything to get elected. He's pretty much contradicted everything he's said on the campaign trail at different stages, yet the low information/dis-information voter tends to ignore this; unfortunately there were enough of these fools in the country - willingly believing anything the alt right media tells them. Even when presented with actual facts that cannot be challenged, these low information/dis-information voter blindly & fervently stick to what they've been fed. It shows a level of animus, distrust and unwillingness inability to reason or rationalize what's taking place. Folks nowadays are willing to reject reality because living in their own echo chamber eases the pain of their mostly miserable lives.

/end rant

[FreeBalling]

De opresso liber. Someone you were related to? RIP.

I am aware of how this comment pertains to the Amry. Could you provide some clarity to the reasoning for the comment.

Just because some people do not share your EXACT views does not mean they are an oppressor. I try to be objective in life because I can not see everyone's viewpoint. I do not vote party lines. I make my own educated decisions in life.

I was referencing your signature? Special Forces motto.

Thank you for asking about MSGT Holt. I wore a bracelet to honor him for 25 years until his remains were found. I left the bracelet at the Vietnam war memorial the day I found out his remains were covered. I will be there in the morning to pay my respect to all of our fallen soldiers.

[montestewart]

http://www.infowars.com/shock-video-black-mob-viciously-beats-white-trump-voter/

This makes me ashamed. Listen what the attackers chant as they beat the hell out of some poor old white guy. "You voted trump" etc etc.

It's an election, not a war. I've sent this video to all my family members and friends DENOUNCING IT. I suggest EVERYONE do the same.

That video is disturbing and race related without a doubt. It's just some old man getting his ass beat for no reason other than he is white. I see a lot of violent protesters in the Democratic community. When Obama was elected I do not recall rural farmers rioting and protesting the first black president.

Look at the county level across the United States for voting in the link below. There are pockets of Blue across the US dominated by Red counties. The Electoral College is in place to insure large cities (pockets of blue) do not dominate an election.

I see nothing wrong with America first. Americans should have first crack at American jobs. It would be great if we ALL could love each other and help OUR communities more.

SOMETHING ELSE: Hillary told the people what they wanted to hear to get elected. She has flip flopped on issues over and over. Just empty words politicians use to get elected. Say one thing do something else.

You can say what you want about Trump, However, he did not put on kid gloves or give politically correct speeches to get a message across. In other words Trump did not lie to your face about what he was thinking.

http://www.usatoday.com/pages/interactives/how-the-election-unfolded/

First off, the video was disgusting. I think anyone of any race can recognize how ugly it was. And it's not representative of most blacks or liberal views. Sadly there's wretched people of all colors, religions & creeds. Using the video as some sort of provocation to question liberal/racial attitudes falls into the typical red meat served by the right to make others seem less human or their causes somehow less worthy.

Secondly your last sentence is nonsense. Trump simply lies about basically everything and literally said anything to get elected. He's pretty much contradicted everything he's said on the campaign trail at different stages, yet the low information/dis-information voter tends to ignore this; unfortunately there were enough of these fools in the country - willingly believing anything the alt right media tells them. Even when presented with actual facts that cannot be challenged, these low information/dis-information voter blindly & fervently stick to what they've been fed. It shows a level of animus, distrust and unwillingness inability to reason or rationalize what's taking place. Folks nowadays are willing to reject reality because living in their own echo chamber eases the pain of their mostly miserable lives.

/end rant

Dat, I agree with a lot that you say here. Living and working in DC for 30+ years, it's not like I don't have any idea how black folk conduct themselves. Those kids were crazy. They don't represent my black friends, neighbors, and colleagues. They represent lawlessness, which to me doesn't have a color (maybe orange, if they get caught).

This election was very much about polarization. Calling the other side fools doesn't really help end that polarization. There is a significant faction on the liberal side that has recognized the so-called "angry white voters" for some time, at least since the rise of the Tea Party, and have tried to push for more inclusive platforms. Sanders campaign embraced that view, but the Democratic machine seemed set on running with its old coalition. One of the most repellent things about the past campaign is that, all rhetoric aside, it seemed like each side presented as a winner-take-all candidate, striking fear in the other side's supporters. That fear is playing out in various ways now, and probably would have if Clinton won too.

Again, living and working in DC for 30+ years, it's not like I don't have any idea what liberals act like. I regularly encounter liberals and Democrats who seem to be operating on low information or in their own echo chamber. That's not a purely partisan issue. It's hard to keep up on issues, and trust and confidence are very important for low information voters on both sides. I'm not sure why so many people think Trump is trustworthy, but it's clear that Clinton was having trouble winning people's trust (hmm, I wonder why) to the degree that Obama was able to.

Well, that's my rant.

[DCZards]

Bizarre.

Trump looks like a man who knows that he's in over his head.

Do you also read palms?

Nah...I specialize in body language.

[montestewart]

Apparently, Trump's inaugural may not be as heavily attended as Clinton's would have been

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2016/11/10/d-c-hotels-were-expecting-an-inaugural-booking-frenzy-instead-theyve-got-vacancies/

That's gonna hurt the Trump Plaza, or the Old Trump Office, or the Four Blocks from My House, or whatever that new hotel's called

[Zonkerbl]

Oh wah ONE WHITE GUY got beaten up. Meanwhile my facebook feed is full of dozens of instances of racist assaults, vandalism and harassment. Trump has unleashed a wave of hate-inspired violence and the white people are clearly dishing out more than their fair share so spare me your hand wringing.

Interesting that the first thing you guys jump out to condemn is this one white guy but not one word so far about the KKK's planned celebratory march in North Carolina. Blinders much?

[tontoz]

Trying to find some positives about Trump as President:

1) It puts an end to Hillary's political career. Good riddance

2) It is a much needed slap to the face for the political elites in both parties as well as the national media.

3) Trump seems to be on very good terms with his family and his exes. As far as i know none of his ex wives or gfs have come out and blasted him.

He seems especially close to Ivanka who i have always liked. Not only is she fine af but she seems bright and well adjusted. My impression is that she has his ear more than anyone in his camp.

While she hasn't come out and condemned him for some of his crazy antics at times she has made it known when she disagrees with him. I believe he once said something bizarre about sexual harassment in the workplace, that if Ivanka was being harassed that she should find another job. Ivanka came out and said no, sexual harassment is unacceptable and there needs to be rules in place to deal with it.

When that tape came out Ivanka publicly said that he apologized to them about it, which i took to mean that she holds him accountable for his behavior, at least to a degree. Hopefully she will be the voice of reason in his camp, one that he will actually listen to that will smooth out his extreme tendencies.

No i didn't vote for him.

[Zonkerbl]

http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Vandals-Spray-Trump-2016-Over-Message-of-Unity-in-East-Haddam-400718971.html

[Zonkerbl]

https://www.facebook.com/liquid81/posts/10211569155723989

[Zonkerbl]

https://www.facebook.com/sounds.eclectic/posts/10211107496511787

[Zonkerbl]

http://tracytwyman.com/killing-god-to-become-god-david-bowie-stanley-kubrick-arthur-c-clarke-and-hillary-clintons-emails-decoded/

[edit: I just included this one because it's hilarious]

[Zonkerbl]

http://wncn.com/2016/11/09/downtown-durham-graffiti-takes-aim-at-black-voters/

[Zonkerbl]

https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

[Zonkerbl]

http://www.phillymag.com/news/2016/11/09/nazi-trump-graffiti-south-philadelphia/