OT - Trump

[clyde21]

I wonder what % of NBA players secretly voted Trump? I'll bet you the answer is really high..90 to 95% of voters put their pocketbooks ahead of anything else.

Heck I was shocked and depressed as Trump was winning state after state, then I remembered how great it was for my biotechnology stocks..Kinda took away the sting lol

People keep saying this.

Can someone explain to me how Trump puts more money into the pockets of these athletes than anyone else would?

[FNQ]

I wonder what % of NBA players secretly voted Trump? I'll bet you the answer is really high..90 to 95% of voters put their pocketbooks ahead of anything else.

Heck I was shocked and depressed as Trump was winning state after state, then I remembered how great it was for my biotechnology stocks..Kinda took away the sting lol

People keep saying this.

Can someone explain to me how Trump puts more money into the pockets of these athletes than anyone else would?

The GOP favors tax breaks for the wealthy and the Dems were poised to tax the crap out of them.

[FNQ]

I wonder what % of NBA players secretly voted Trump? I'll bet you the answer is really high..90 to 95% of voters put their pocketbooks ahead of anything else.

Heck I was shocked and depressed as Trump was winning state after state, then I remembered how great it was for my biotechnology stocks..Kinda took away the sting lol

Yup.. would expect the NBA and MLB to both be rife with Trump supporters. Under the radar of course. They and their families will likely not experience racism going forward, being so rich and recognizable.

The NFL? Eh, not so much.. with their lack of guaranteed money, with the majority of them being somewhat anonymous due to their helmets and large rosters, I could see most of them voting against Trump

[clyde21]

I wonder what % of NBA players secretly voted Trump? I'll bet you the answer is really high..90 to 95% of voters put their pocketbooks ahead of anything else.

Heck I was shocked and depressed as Trump was winning state after state, then I remembered how great it was for my biotechnology stocks..Kinda took away the sting lol

People keep saying this.

Can someone explain to me how Trump puts more money into the pockets of these athletes than anyone else would?

The GOP favors tax breaks for the wealthy and the Dems were poised to tax the crap out of them.

I understand that...but what does that have to do with Trump? Are we claiming that 95% of professional athletes always vote Republican?

Not even close to being true.

[turk3d]

People keep saying this.

Can someone explain to me how Trump puts more money into the pockets of these athletes than anyone else would?

The GOP favors tax breaks for the wealthy and the Dems were poised to tax the crap out of them.

I understand that...but what does that have to do with Trump? Are we claiming that 95% of professional athletes always vote Republican?

Not even close to being true.

Trump biggest thing imo is that he's going to lower the tax on the rich to just 15% (exact opposite of what Bernie wanted to do). That was the single most reason that I voted for Hillary. That would be massive. And everyone talks about the rich and the middle class. What about the poor? No one seems to give a damn. Those are the people who need the most help.

[clyde21]

The GOP favors tax breaks for the wealthy and the Dems were poised to tax the crap out of them.

I understand that...but what does that have to do with Trump? Are we claiming that 95% of professional athletes always vote Republican?

Not even close to being true.

Trump biggest thing imo is that he's going to lower the tax on the rich to just 15% (exact opposite of what Bernie wanted to do). That was the single most reason that I voted for Hillary. That would be massive. And everyone talks about the rich and the middle class. What about the poor? No one seems to give a damn. Those are the people who need the most help.

Nobody gives a **** about the poor. We have more homeless people here in San Fran than ever...WTF are people doing about it? WTF are they doing veterans with PTSD? WTF are they doing about the racial economic gap? They'd rather bomb countries and give Israel billions of dollars than to take care of our people.

[whocurrz]

definitely don't like trump and think many of his voters have been conned into voting for him if they actually think he'll deliver much of what he promised for the working class. But I did think this article made some interesting points about trump supporters:

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about/

Not the shortest read but a good one

I think it's good to have an outsider who will shake up politics, but I just think it's unfortunate the person who is going to do it is a snake oil salesman who will make inequality worse

[mos_def]

I understand that...but what does that have to do with Trump? Are we claiming that 95% of professional athletes always vote Republican?

Not even close to being true.

Trump biggest thing imo is that he's going to lower the tax on the rich to just 15% (exact opposite of what Bernie wanted to do). That was the single most reason that I voted for Hillary. That would be massive. And everyone talks about the rich and the middle class. What about the poor? No one seems to give a damn. Those are the people who need the most help.

Nobody gives a **** about the poor. We have more homeless people here in San Fran than ever...WTF are people doing about it? WTF are they doing veterans with PTSD? WTF are they doing about the racial economic gap? They'd rather bomb countries and give Israel billions of dollars than to take care of our people.

You stated the money issue people voted for Trump. Its the socio-economic problems in America that caused people to vote for Trump. It wasn't Racism. Both candidates were white. More Black and Hispanics voted for Trump than Romney. Its socio-economic. The disbelieved Left just make it about race, but what about everyone that you listed (and I highlighted). No one cares about them. They are left flapping in the wind and those people voted for Trump cuz in 8 years they didn't see the prosperity message Obama was laying out. Im not against Obama, but I realize his reach didn't effect everyone and it made them mad. Its like marriage. If you don't pay attention to your spouse they are going to eventually leave you for someone else. Its basic human mentality. Its not about race. If people keep making it about race there never will any unity. Its like the rioting in Oakland. Those Raiders fans aren't helping their case.

In Missouri, there was a former Navy SEAL who had no political history and he won over the established Democratic candidate. Why? People are tired of the established government and them not being heard.

Why did you bring up Israel? The administration gave billions to Iran, Israel's enemy. You completely lost me with the Israel comment.

[mos_def]

definitely don't like trump and think many of his voters have been conned into voting for him if they actually think he'll deliver much of what he promised for the working class. But I did think this article made some interesting points about trump supporters:

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about/

Not the shortest read but a good one

I think it's good to have an outsider who will shake up politics, but I just think it's unfortunate the person who is going to do it is a snake oil salesman who will make inequality worse

This was a great article and exactly what Ive been saying because I have seen it.
I also digged the House/ Iron Man comparison

[turk3d]

Trump biggest thing imo is that he's going to lower the tax on the rich to just 15% (exact opposite of what Bernie wanted to do). That was the single most reason that I voted for Hillary. That would be massive. And everyone talks about the rich and the middle class. What about the poor? No one seems to give a damn. Those are the people who need the most help.

Nobody gives a **** about the poor. We have more homeless people here in San Fran than ever...WTF are people doing about it? WTF are they doing veterans with PTSD? WTF are they doing about the racial economic gap? They'd rather bomb countries and give Israel billions of dollars than to take care of our people.

You stated the money issue people voted for Trump. Its the socio-economic problems in America that caused people to vote for Trump. It wasn't Racism. Both candidates were white. More Black and Hispanics voted for Trump than Romney. Its socio-economic. The disbelieved Left just make it about race, but what about everyone that you listed (and I highlighted). No one cares about them. They are left flapping in the wind and those people voted for Trump cuz in 8 years they didn't see the prosperity message Obama was laying out. Im not against Obama, but I realize his reach didn't effect everyone and it made them mad. Its like marriage. If you don't pay attention to your spouse they are going to eventually leave you for someone else. Its basic human mentality. Its not about race. If people keep making it about race there never will any unity. Its like the rioting in Oakland. Those Raiders fans aren't helping their case.

In Missouri, there was a former Navy SEAL who had no political history and he won over the established Democratic candidate. Why? People are tired of the established government and them not being heard.

Why did you bring up Israel? The administration gave billions to Iran, Israel's enemy. You completely lost me with the Israel comment.

Totally agree with your last point. This country has been giving away billions to foreign countries for many years, yet seem to ignore their own backyards. For what there is, they prefer to call it "entitlements" when it's in this country, but a "great humanitarian work" or altruism when the money goes outside the country. At least Israel is one of our greatest allies, and aren't sending in terrorists to attack us.

[510TWSS]

The GOP favors tax breaks for the wealthy and the Dems were poised to tax the crap out of them.

I understand that...but what does that have to do with Trump? Are we claiming that 95% of professional athletes always vote Republican?

Not even close to being true.

Trump biggest thing imo is that he's going to lower the tax on the rich to just 15% (exact opposite of what Bernie wanted to do). That was the single most reason that I voted for Hillary. That would be massive. And everyone talks about the rich and the middle class. What about the poor? No one seems to give a damn. Those are the people who need the most help.

Heh when have we ever cared about the poor as a nation. That flat 15% tax is ridiculous and should be a non starter for any realistic plan to tackle national debt. In all likelihood it makes it worse.

[510TWSS]

this election was totally a "whitelash" against the last 8 years for having a black president. Was it the main driving force? Certainly not, but it is when you have the tea party making up a sizable portion of his base.

I also think it was true people wanted to lash back against the political elite. Given the choice of a political insider vs outsider the American people chose the unqualified outsider, hate rhetoric be damned.

In the end we really don't know how a Trump as president will go as he's not in any way shape or form a traditional concmservative. He may piss of dems, but there's a likelihood he pisses off Republicans too.

We'all see if his call for unity is real or he just continues his con man speech.

[510TWSS]

Nobody gives a **** about the poor. We have more homeless people here in San Fran than ever...WTF are people doing about it? WTF are they doing veterans with PTSD? WTF are they doing about the racial economic gap? They'd rather bomb countries and give Israel billions of dollars than to take care of our people.

You stated the money issue people voted for Trump. Its the socio-economic problems in America that caused people to vote for Trump. It wasn't Racism. Both candidates were white. More Black and Hispanics voted for Trump than Romney. Its socio-economic. The disbelieved Left just make it about race, but what about everyone that you listed (and I highlighted). No one cares about them. They are left flapping in the wind and those people voted for Trump cuz in 8 years they didn't see the prosperity message Obama was laying out. Im not against Obama, but I realize his reach didn't effect everyone and it made them mad. Its like marriage. If you don't pay attention to your spouse they are going to eventually leave you for someone else. Its basic human mentality. Its not about race. If people keep making it about race there never will any unity. Its like the rioting in Oakland. Those Raiders fans aren't helping their case.

In Missouri, there was a former Navy SEAL who had no political history and he won over the established Democratic candidate. Why? People are tired of the established government and them not being heard.

Why did you bring up Israel? The administration gave billions to Iran, Israel's enemy. You completely lost me with the Israel comment.

Totally agree with your last point. This country has been giving away billions to foreign countries for many years, yet seem to ignore their own backyards. For what there is, they prefer to call it "entitlements" when it's in this country, but a "great humanitarian work" or altruism when the money goes outside the country. At least Israel is one of our greatest allies, and aren't sending in terrorists to attack us.

By the end Obama and Netanyahu detested each other. He just came out in support of Trump b/c like everyone else wanna know wtf this dude is all about.

[old rem]

I wonder what % of NBA players secretly voted Trump? I'll bet you the answer is really high..90 to 95% of voters put their pocketbooks ahead of anything else.

Heck I was shocked and depressed as Trump was winning state after state, then I remembered how great it was for my biotechnology stocks..Kinda took away the sting lol

People keep saying this.

Can someone explain to me how Trump puts more money into the pockets of these athletes than anyone else would?

Beats me. Impulsive? Ignorant? Weirdly unstable? None of that says ' Leadership". Leadership is not about Bloated ego......and alas.... That's a reason fools elected him. as scary as he is... he MAY be better in some ways than many of the right wing options.

[Quazza]

Aus dollar buying more US than it has in 12 months

great for jerseys on eBay



(Sorry )

[Mylie10]

The GOP favors tax breaks for the wealthy and the Dems were poised to tax the crap out of them.

I understand that...but what does that have to do with Trump? Are we claiming that 95% of professional athletes always vote Republican?

Not even close to being true.

Trump biggest thing imo is that he's going to lower the tax on the rich to just 15% (exact opposite of what Bernie wanted to do). That was the single most reason that I voted for Hillary. That would be massive. And everyone talks about the rich and the middle class. What about the poor? No one seems to give a damn. Those are the people who need the most help.

I don't think it was a tax cut for the rich idea of 15% on their income...I think the proposed 15% was a corporate tax rate that supposedly would entice businesses to come back to America based on the competitiveness of the lowered rate.

Also with an idea of incentive given to those companies that invest heavily in areas of the economy hit especially hard in recent times. Detroit, Cleveland, etc.. So if Ford brings back manufacturing plants to America, but does it in areas hard hit by the economy, they would be given some sort of incentive to do so.

[turk3d]

I understand that...but what does that have to do with Trump? Are we claiming that 95% of professional athletes always vote Republican?

Not even close to being true.

Trump biggest thing imo is that he's going to lower the tax on the rich to just 15% (exact opposite of what Bernie wanted to do). That was the single most reason that I voted for Hillary. That would be massive. And everyone talks about the rich and the middle class. What about the poor? No one seems to give a damn. Those are the people who need the most help.

I don't think it was a tax cut for the rich idea of 15% on their income...I think the proposed 15% was a corporate tax rate that supposedly would entice businesses to come back to America based on the competitiveness of the lowered rate.

Also with an idea of incentive given to those companies that invest heavily in areas of the economy hit especially hard in recent times. Detroit, Cleveland, etc.. So if Ford brings back manufacturing plants to America, but does it in areas hard hit by the economy, they would be given some sort of incentive to do so.

You sure Mylie? I think it might apply to individuals too. I do like his idea of getting rid of the IRS or just making it a flat tax and remove all the complications out of it. We'll see. No one is really sure of what he's going to do at this point but it will definitely be interesting. BTW (even though I didn't vote for him) I also like the fact that he turned our political system upside down. Serves those crooked politicians right.

Cops in Portland call protest a riot:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/11/us/oregon-protest-riot/index.html

[Toddl18]

This is going to be long so sorry for it in advance if you don't feel like reading it then feel free to skip/ignore it.

I have a lean more towards libertarian when it comes to policies and beliefs on how the government should function. Most of the time I feel when the government gets involved in things I feel while good intention-ed it generally makes the situation a lot worse then it would have been if they choose to ignored it. However I see all the other philosophies when it comes to governance and see the merits in pro's and con's to arguments. I feel like I have to preference that all before answering this question. I live in Las Vegas and Nevada has an option on the ballot that says "Neither option" or something to that effect so that is what I picked this election but if you held my feet to the fire between the 2 major party candidates Hilary Clinton or Donald Trump I would have picked Trump as the option especially if I couldn't go for one of the minor parties.

Before you get the pitchforks, torches and such let me explain my logic and reasoning for this as I feel this is probably one of the closest perspective to a trump voter. Let me first break down Hilary because that is imperative to explain the rational. I don't like most of the Obama Policies and Hilary very much would have drawn upon some of those same things and compounded and made them worse but the key points of things that scared me and would make it impossible to vote for her were as follows:

1. TPP - There is no good that would have impacted the US or Canada in this type of deal and the fact that she called this a good point and defended it leads me to feel she really wasn't as informed on the issue as a whole. I disagree'd with NAFTA to for the record because I thought the cons out weighed the positives that happened and once I saw it in action it was hard to disagree with the results being that.

2. Bad Experience - Bad experence as a civil servant to me doesn't automatically make it better then someone with no experence and I looked at a lot of her things and followed her around throughout the years because its hard to not see these things with the coverage. She's been put into many situations and decision making positions and the majority of the time I disagreed with her decisions I can't honestly say that I thought she took the right approach on any of them and it's hard and sad that I and most people can't name a single achievement she had as a career politician.

Benghazi - I understand that mistakes happen and I don't always expect people to be able to make perfect decisions in real time. The issue I had with Benghazi was simply the response that happened afterwards to it that I felt was shrugging responsibility of it. I get her frustration but watching and reading stuff on it she came across as someone who simply was trying to cover up a blunder of decision making, rather then apologizing and recognizing her missteps.

Iran deal - I'm sorry but that whole deal and anyone that supported it needs to have there head examined. There was nothing good about it at all and all it did was give the other guy what they wanted and got us no closer to eliminated Iran's Nuclear Ambition's. The main problem I had with it was the fact that we allowed them to dictate which places and times inspections can happen and we didn't have any really strong point in order to keep them honest.

Military uses in general - The fact that when she was at the state department and the over abundance use of drone strikes is alarming these types of policies for me at least seem to not be good. I felt the way she and Obama ignored and got rid of generals that only flaw was difference of opinions was very bushesque.

3. The Money- I found it very shocking and kind of disturbing when it came to where and who was financing her campaign. Quite frankly the donations she got look more like a Republican candidate then a Democratic one she is in bed with way to many special interest groups who's interest go against that of myself and what I would classify as american people. Out of all the major candidates and even some of the primaries ones outside of maybe Jeb Bush I can't tell you the amount of candidates that had less big names involved in donations.

Clinton Foundation - I'm sorry but no one running for government office should be taking money from foreign governments. No charity foundation should be taking money from groups that persecute lgbt/women/minorities and anything else that commit acts of inhumane treatment of fellow people. There were to many shady places giving money for that. The whole haiti relief effort and some of the other help was very bad and handled poorly. That is red flags when it comes to crisis and Hilary was the person on the ground leading at that time.

Wall Street- The experts and speeches she's given to Wall Street scare me because it's clear they don't know how to do the right thing and direct themselves. She obviously wouldn't put in the necessary regulations to make sure that the american people wouldn't have a massive bubble burst and the fact that she gets money from them would probably have her go in there favor over us citizens.

4. Track Record - Her voting habits show me that she doesn't necessarily take the road that she likes rather the road that people tell her she should like. She has switch stances as the populist decides what is currently trending in america. She was anti gay marriage till it became something she couldn't ignore in order to advance her career. She was and is pretty bad when it comes to handling of feminist issues especially those who have accused Bill Clinton of rape or affairs. Her track record outside of those 2 things isn't good either her constant need to lie is astounding and it is especially painful how she can expect people to believe her to keep her promises when she has lied about some very stupid things and some very important things.

Emails: Listen the reason why I give this a category is because she lied about it and there is no way that I can concede that she is stupid enough to not have known it wasn't policy. I don't care if others do it and I believe that shouldn't be justifying her doing it and it was apparent by the FBI wording and testimony that she knew and broke rules. The fact that they deleted emails after a subpoena is very big for me and so is the fact that her lawyers and her picked the evidence before turning it over. No one else gets that right and nor should they add to it the tar mack meeting and it paints a bad picture.

Corruption - I will give people the benefit of the doubt on this and even will openly admit that she probably didn't do all the things people accused her of doing. That said the sheer amount of smoke has led me to believe that there is fire there. It would be one thing if it was a few iinstances but the amount is just to much for me to overlook.

5. Foreign Policies - Hilary decision making when it comes to handling foreign powers and issues is remarkably bad. It is probably one of the worst of american presidential candidates in the history. I don't see/like the views she had during the Iraq war and voting for it. I do say the positive is I don't see eliminating cruel violators of acts against humanity in the leaders of countries as a bad thing but it just shouldn't be the go to response without a backup plan.

Syria - I hated the way she handled and planned for Syria I don't think that the US should be getting involved in those sort of things it's not our responsibility to be world police and the fact that she armed people who we didn't believe or know anything about them after seeing how well it worked previously is alarming. Her insistence on ousting getting Gaddafi without having good leadership in place to fix the problems was very short sighted.

Libya - The power play moves she is making and wants to do in there is/would ignite another major war. Her views of eliminating Assad without a back up plan is very troubling. Especially since it would likely lead to an influx of refugee's to europe and the us. The fact that she wants to do a no fly zone when it's clear doing so would result in a war with not only Libya but Russia as well is very troubling. We can't and shouldn't keep arming rebels that we can't vet in order to see how it will impact the region. We shouldn't be involved in this issue and fighting a proxy war with Russia nothing good will come out of it.

Hit List - She clearly has a hard line stance against certain nations much like Bush Jr had and it's clear she will try to engage them into provoking a war response. I don't think we can achieve long term peace with nations who has that type of agenda.

Russia - She single handily almost started another world war and I understand some of her ire with Russia. However unless you can prove Russia involvement in election tampering making accusations only causes more problems. The fact that her stances would have likely had a showdown with another nuclear nation is scary and could have led to a nuclear war. I can't support anyone that would do that especially when Russia was making obvious moves towards said engagement.

6. Warmongering - This follows some of the above but the thing is she has not only done those things but has a record of being very much like a neocon when it comes to war. I don't want neocon's to control our military when it comes to engagement and I feel she follows and is advised by those same people as we as a nation should have learned from Bush not to go that route.

Immigration - Lets start with legal immigration and I will say I support and changes to the system that makes it less of a hassle, more efficient and also helps to stabilize our nation. It clearly needs to be reformed and I welcome that which is a good thing of hers.

Illegal Immigrants - I am against and it comes down to 2 reason the first being I don't think its ever a good job to reward people for breaking the law and they are basically doing that. You can't have a society where rules aren't being enforced and the allowance of illegal immigrants hurts the economy and other factors of every day life. It sucks and I agree we should help and take as many as possible but only if they follow the rules and goes through the proper process. The second reason is because I feel america has to protect our borders and it's stupid policy to not have that in place this is more about our sovereignty then anything else.

Refugees - I know people hated Trumps response and plan but I don't agree with Hilary on this and side more with Trump. I think its impossible to do the vetting on people from a country that is ravished with little to no infrastructure and we shouldn't blindly accept everyone without that part its why I have issues with illegal immigrants as well. The second and bigger point is that I feel that with the data that refugee's general stay in the host nation which means that till we fix the legislation with paths to citizen ship and rights of said individuals and such I think its bad to accept them to come here, but fix that and maybe I'll agree with it. Finally I think we should offer aid and I think we should secure them a safe spot I don't see why we can't deploy our troops to an arena of the country and protect them there its just as efficient and actually solves the problem.

7. Gun Control - I agree on reform but the changes propose do little to make american's safe and protect the 2nd amendment while protecting everyone. More background checks doesn't take guns off of the street or stop mass shootings and I feel you can never fully do that. Instead I think the reforms have to make it better vetting and I oppose any type of registration system as that generally leads to a dark path.

8. Relate-ability - I am sorry but I just don't connect with her on any level I feel she comes off forced and awkward. Added with the lying and it just seems so dirty I hated the weird smiling during the debates. I hated the fact that she mistook yelling for enthusiasm and it hurt her bottom line.

9 - DNC and Bernie situation it was an absolute joke that they gave her a patsy to destroy in the primaries and then had to tie his hands more when he became the popular candidate. The DNC and her should go by who the people want not who they thinkk and I feel forcing her down peoples throat hurt the youth vote and it hurt the overall appeal. I can't help but loathe people who cheat to get to that point and that is exactly what happened blatantly. If she won it fair and square its one thing but she didn't and that just annoys me. Finally she wasn't the right candidate for this election especially with Brexit she is an insider and an outsider was the only candidates that had a shot and that was the one thing she couldn't claim she was.

Now to Trump:

1. Record- I do think he made a lot mistakes and said things that he shouldn't have said that could have eliminated him from the presidency. That said its only words and not actions there is no record especially in public as showing what he will do and if he will keep his word.

2. Economy - His ideas for trade deals being redone and overall way to help fix the economy were things I believe would work and that is bringing jobs back to american's. Allowing companies to invest into manufacturing and employing usa residence. I liked his stances on trade deals, regulations and closing of loopholes while helping fix the economy.

3. Tax Plan - Was way easier and simpler then Clintons and I feel if implemented that it would help fix everyone situation. He didn't want to cut taxes for just the rich like was being reported but for everyday american's. I don't know about you but that was something that I really wanted to see happen.

4.Foreign policy - His thoughts on making sure that the US would not be involved in wars that we didn't need or shouldn't be fighting. I felt the fact that he said he didn't want to take anything off the table for negotiating purpose was practical more then scary and its something that every president should be doing as to help avoid conflict because of a deterrent. I also liked his response to nato for paying membership and supporting the whole taking the burden off of the US. His insistence on sovereignty and controlling boarders and immigrants allowing us to control and help other people looking for a better life.

5. Health Care -Trumps idea of completely scrapping the obamacare is the only option that I felt would be the way to resolve this. Obamacare in its essence is basically a ponzi scheme that forces the people to have a certain thing or get taxed. It relied on young people to pay into it (despite lack of jobs and necessity) which would offset the cost of others. I feel the only thing worth keeping in it would be the preexisting conditions part which should be in whatever replaces it. I feel the only legislature the government should insists on is capping malpractice and standardizing pricing based on state data as income and etc in order to make it lower cost for everyone. Competition in providers is another issue that I think would allow people more bang for your buck the current system only helps 10% and hurts the other 90% that not a good enough ratio to justify it.


6. Plans of action - I loved the fact that he wanted to set term limits, cutting spending and sending things like education and welfare to be handled at the state level. Those should improve quality of life for every american out there. Other things of note are 5 year-ban on White House and Congressional officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government service. A lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government, and a complete ban on foreign lobbyists raising money for American elections. Tariffs and other things to level playing field for american companies while allowing consumers to not have high priced items. Canceling all the executive orders and instead going through the proper channels to get these things in legislature I felt that Bush and Obama relied to much on those.

7- Social Views - He was very liberal with his thoughts on things such as abortions, war on drugs, lgbt and other things. He didn't and doesn't want thing that shouldn't be governed to be mandated and that is a good sign especially with his gun policies which will allow a better more moderate leaning supreme court.

8- The main stream media - Honestly it felt like he was fighting 2 people the entire presidential election and the media picked a side. They went out of there way to misquote him and spread lies about him being some Hitler like person which he isn't no where in his speeches did it out right call for raciness but was attributed as such. Being anti women since he spatted with a few over the years just came off as nit picking when seeing his actions. The whole tape that release was severely misinterpreted as he implied them letting him as consent yet it was still ran with and a lot of the stories weren't vetted properly. There were times when I had to rewatch things he said based on commentary because I swore I missed it. He did say and do somethings that I thought should get focused on and unfortunately the media pushed them to the side to get the latest comment of the day. The complete dishonesty made him very much like an under dog in the fight and I always like to see David's beat Goliath. If the shoe was on the other foot on some of these things and it was at times Hilary never would have been criticized for them and that was sickening. The media's unwillingness to vet Hilary while giving her the benefit of the doubt was very souring to me. Especially considering that Trump was never looked at in the same manner when the papers where saying openly they were bias, when moderators were anything but objective it caused me to raise my eyebrows regularly.

More then all that though comes down to this last part, I feel the media will do and always does a better job at holding a conservative to a higher standard. They just are harder on them and that lets me think that its easier to police someone like that. If the press is blind or ignoring flaw it only hurts everyone more down the line. The fact that he was an outsider and stated that he wanted to and knew how to fix the corruption in politics was what led me to give him the benefit of the doubt even now. The worst case scenario for me is Donald does none of the things he promised and /or congress or other stops him from it so we end up 4 years later back where we started. I am not upset over him getting in because I feel that others in congress, the press and in his inner circle will not allow him to act irrational and dangerous. See I think that the people that voted for him only did so because they saw him as a person of change and needed necessity to clean out the corruption and failures of the previous campaigns. The voters this election cycle and the winning to some extent had little to do with the candidates and more to do with the hated of the opposition which was a major force in the election. That is what happens when both party candidates are viewed unfavorably in there own party and outside of it. For the record even though I hate Bernie Sander's stance on how the government should govern I would have voted for him over trump. There are a few other candidates in the democratic party that I would have voted over Trump.

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I agree with most of the things you said about Hillary. Unfortunately you didn't do the same amount of research about Trump.

1) he is going to court, soon. Look up why. There are actions. And historical actions. And if your response is "we'll he was never convicted", well, neither was Hillary

2) useless platitudes about fixing loopholes that the GOP previously fought for will not be overturned. He cannot control the entire GOP platform. There is a reason the GOP fought tooth and nail against him for so long. We need wage increases and stuff taxes on internationally produced goods to revive our economy. It should cost more to produce things internationally - until it does, we will have problems.

3) I don't care about cutting or expanding taxes. I carr what that money is spent on. The part of the DNC platform that Bernie wrote was clear on that. I've seen no such plan from Trump yet. If it's business as usual, more than half of your taxes will go towards military actions, which are predominantly bombing middle eastern countries to keep our oil supply strong. Currently our tax situation is: we are an oil company with an army

4) agree on most. The wall is a boondoggle and most illegals come legally. The amount of money it would take to do what Trump has suggested is insanely more than the returns citizens would get from it. It's scapegoating 101, and it deflects from point #3, where our outrage should be

5) the ACA crushed middle class and lower-middle class people with insane premiums and reduced coverage. Obamacare was half-assed. Without regulations on the health industry (like pharmacy bro Martin shkreki and worst person in the world Heather Bresch), Obamacare created nice stats to point at but did nothing to solve legitimate issues for citizens

6) won't happen. Ironically enough, trump would need executive orders in order to impose term limits - there's no way these people will give up theur cushy, elitist, lobbyist-funded lives on an outsider's say so. So these points directly conflict with each other.

7) if he walks back civil rights at all, he is walking back social progress. With Pence as VP, there is more to suggest he will walk them back. But it isn't a foregone conclusion.. but it sure as hell was something he pandered about and I think it's disingenuous to imply that he likely will be a civil rights ally. So far, the rhetoric has been the complete opposite

8) this one is interesting. It compares how the 2 party think-tanks reacted to their party'a anti-establishment candidate. Both parties fought against them. The media was the difference though, in total favor of Trump. Because the left media gave Trump so much airtime and gave Bernie so little, they gave Trump the platform he needed to win people over. Bernie won over so many despite not being on TV - the medium that is used for news by the senior block, the highest voter turnout block every single cycle. So in reality, the mainstream media gifted Trump the presidency by letting people see him. Their analysis, as always, went ignored because of its partisan nature. It doesn't convince anyone, it just reinforces people who already are on your side. Which does nothing to help win an election.

Its easy to dismiss a Trump presidency if you haven't been targeted. But LGBTQ, women, Muslims, Latins, and AA have been targeted. They feel unsafe. Not just because of things Trump has said, but because the stupid people of this country now feel emboldened to spray paint swastikas in places. To harass minorities. To harass special interest groups. The impact of a Trump presidency has far more reach than just what laws he will try to impose - social tensions are at an all time high for most people'a lifetimes. That's the biggest concern: the left violently protesting and the alt-right vandalizing and harassing.

Well Trump, you lead us now. What are you going to do about it?

[Mylie10]

wouldn't it be nice if we were able to get our own oil? At least until alternative sources are completely able to replace oil?