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Re: GT:Chicago Bulls @ Miami Heat 11/10, 8:00 on TNT-The Return of Father Prime 

Post#941 » by Heat_Fan_87 » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:42 pm

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Re: GT:Chicago Bulls @ Miami Heat 11/10, 8:00 on TNT-The Return of Father Prime 

Post#942 » by Bishop45 » Fri Nov 11, 2016 8:48 pm

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our offense is fast pace. Last night we faced a very good defensive and offensive rebounding team.

Eighth from the bottom, even the Bulls are faster than us.


So? the top five pace teams in the league are Brooklyn, Pheonix Atlanta, Lakers and Nuggets. Why would we want to be the highest pace team in the league? We are still faster or just as fast as we were the second half of last season that you guys oh so enjoyed and raved about.

The problem with this team is not pace, its field goal percentage.


... But we're not playing the same pace, we're actuaclly playing actively slower. The pace helped us be a better offensive team last season than our first half selves, same theory... Faster pace, more pts
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Re: GT:Chicago Bulls @ Miami Heat 11/10, 8:00 on TNT-The Return of Father Prime 

Post#943 » by twix2500 » Fri Nov 11, 2016 8:51 pm

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Mos_Heat wrote:Eighth from the bottom, even the Bulls are faster than us.


So? the top five pace teams in the league are Brooklyn, Pheonix Atlanta, Lakers and Nuggets. Why would we want to be the highest pace team in the league? We are still faster or just as fast as we were the second half of last season that you guys oh so enjoyed and raved about.

The problem with this team is not pace, its field goal percentage.


... But we're not playing the same pace, we're actuaclly playing actively slower. The pace helped us be a better offensive team last season than our first half selves, same theory... Faster pace, more pts


We were paying at around 97 at the end of last year. Thats what we are doing now. Faster pace doesnt mean more points. It means more shots attempted.
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Re: GT:Chicago Bulls @ Miami Heat 11/10, 8:00 on TNT-The Return of Father Prime 

Post#944 » by Bishop45 » Fri Nov 11, 2016 8:56 pm

twix2500 wrote:
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So? the top five pace teams in the league are Brooklyn, Pheonix Atlanta, Lakers and Nuggets. Why would we want to be the highest pace team in the league? We are still faster or just as fast as we were the second half of last season that you guys oh so enjoyed and raved about.

The problem with this team is not pace, its field goal percentage.


... But we're not playing the same pace, we're actuaclly playing actively slower. The pace helped us be a better offensive team last season than our first half selves, same theory... Faster pace, more pts


We were paying at around 97 at the end of last year. Thats what we are doing now. Faster pace doesnt mean more points. It means more shots attempted.


I remember it being much higher for the second half of the season, than the first. Source if you can show

Without Bosh, Miami has a 105.9 offensive rating -- scoring nearly four points more per 100 possessions


http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/numbers-say-heat-are-fine-without-chris-bosh-but-dont-be-fooled/
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Re: GT:Chicago Bulls @ Miami Heat 11/10, 8:00 on TNT-The Return of Father Prime 

Post#945 » by Mos_Heat » Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:18 pm

Bishop45 wrote:I remember it being much higher for the second half of the season, than the first. Source if you can show

Without Bosh, Miami has a 105.9 offensive rating -- scoring nearly four points more per 100 possessions


http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/numbers-say-heat-are-fine-without-chris-bosh-but-dont-be-fooled/

94.7 pre-all star, 97.7 post-all star, current 97.4.

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So? the top five pace teams in the league are Brooklyn, Pheonix Atlanta, Lakers and Nuggets. Why would we want to be the highest pace team in the league? We are still faster or just as fast as we were the second half of last season that you guys oh so enjoyed and raved about.

The problem with this team is not pace, its field goal percentage.

The problem is we are not creating enough easy points, and with this group of players you can do it only with higher pace.
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Re: GT:Chicago Bulls @ Miami Heat 11/10, 8:00 on TNT-The Return of Father Prime 

Post#946 » by Bishop45 » Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:26 pm

Mos_Heat wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:I remember it being much higher for the second half of the season, than the first. Source if you can show

Without Bosh, Miami has a 105.9 offensive rating -- scoring nearly four points more per 100 possessions


http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/numbers-say-heat-are-fine-without-chris-bosh-but-dont-be-fooled/

94.7 pre-all star, 97.7 post-all star, current 97.4.

twix2500 wrote:
So? the top five pace teams in the league are Brooklyn, Pheonix Atlanta, Lakers and Nuggets. Why would we want to be the highest pace team in the league? We are still faster or just as fast as we were the second half of last season that you guys oh so enjoyed and raved about.

The problem with this team is not pace, its field goal percentage.

The problem is we are not creating enough easy points, and with this group of players you can do it only with higher pace.


That's pace? oh man, I'm trippin'

Alright, yea' you right Twix, but point still stands that pace/pts correlation's pretty evidence in most (pretty much every) case. Let's hope this offense helps itself for its sake
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Re: GT:Chicago Bulls @ Miami Heat 11/10, 8:00 on TNT-The Return of Father Prime 

Post#947 » by Bishop45 » Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:45 pm

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