Where is Jahlil Okafor?

lotto29 · Post #281 » by **lotto29** » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:32 pm

I just want him to rebuild some value and be gone this season or in the off-season. Trade both Noel and Okafor. I want no part of this guy, bench or starting.

phifans · Post #282 » by **phifans** » Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:04 pm

Now you see where this come from

If he plays better: rebuild his value and lets trade him.
If he plays worse: hes a bust get him out of here.

theres nothing right you can do for your haters
All they want is your gone no matter what...

TTP · Post #283 » by **TTP** » Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:11 pm

phifans wrote:Now you see where this come from

If he plays better: rebuild his value and lets trade him.
If he plays worse: hes a bust get him out of here.

theres nothing right you can do for your haters
All they want is your gone no matter what...

If you don't think a player is a good fit for your long-term plans, you still root for him to succeed to build his trade value with other teams. That isn't hating.

phifans · Post #284 » by **phifans** » Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:18 pm

TTP wrote:
phifans wrote:Now you see where this come from

If he plays better: rebuild his value and lets trade him.
If he plays worse: hes a bust get him out of here.

theres nothing right you can do for your haters
All they want is your gone no matter what...

If you don't think a player is a good fit for your long-term plans, you still root for him to succeed to build his trade value with other teams. That isn't hating.

You think they were rooting for him ? Really ?
"I want no part of him but I am rooting for him to succeed"

You may ask some and Im curious too.

TTP · Post #285 » by **TTP** » Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:22 pm

phifans wrote:
TTP wrote:
phifans wrote:Now you see where this come from

If he plays better: rebuild his value and lets trade him.
If he plays worse: hes a bust get him out of here.

theres nothing right you can do for your haters
All they want is your gone no matter what...

If you don't think a player is a good fit for your long-term plans, you still root for him to succeed to build his trade value with other teams. That isn't hating.

You think they were rooting for him ? Really ?
"I want no part of him but I am rooting for him to succeed"
You may ask some and Im curious too.

Why would you think otherwise? The guy you responded to said that he hopes Okafor rebuilds some value so that we can trade him. That translates to rooting him to succeed while here so that we can trade him for a greater return. I want the same. It makes no sense to root for your own players to fail and I haven't seen much evidence of that - clearly only someone very foolish would think that way. You always want your players to have as much value as possible, even if you don't like their fit long-term.

rzzzzz · Post #286 » by **rzzzzz** » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:52 pm

so Wednesday the Sixers tied the Pacers with Okafor missing an outside shot at the end of regulation. last night the Sixers tied the Pacers with Embiid missing an outside shot at the end of regulation. lots of variation in individual play of team mates between the two games, but the teams were not like night and day different. meanwhile, Embiid and Okafor want to play on the court together. seriously, why wouldn't we at least try that before making a move, especially as Simmons seemed to enjoy being one of the 3 amigos with them this summer. we already got rid of Joel's favorite GM. after we get rid of his favorite team mate and coach, do you think he hangs around here indefinitely because of the irresistible allure of Philly fans?

Unbreakable99 · Post #287 » by **Unbreakable99** » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:11 pm

rzzzzz wrote:so Wednesday the Sixers tied the Pacers with Okafor missing an outside shot at the end of regulation. last night the Sixers tied the Pacers with Embiid missing an outside shot at the end of regulation. lots of variation in individual play of team mates between the two games, but the teams were not like night and day different. meanwhile, Embiid and Okafor want to play on the court together. seriously, why wouldn't we at least try that before making a move, especially as Simmons seemed to enjoy being one of the 3 amigos with them this summer. we already got rid of Joel's favorite GM. after we get rid of his favorite team mate and coach, do you think he hangs around here indefinitely because of the irresistible allure of Philly fans?

Who said Simmons' favorite coach is Brett Brown and his favorite teammate is Okafor?

76ciology · Post #288 » by **76ciology** » Sat Nov 12, 2016 5:02 pm

Offense:
Extremely low roll man frequency that is killing his offense. But his iso game is underrated that makes up 25% of his offense at 1.25points per possession which is in the 88th percentile. Went from 41% assisted FGs last season to just 19% this season.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #289 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Sat Nov 12, 2016 5:39 pm

He's injured and not fully healthy or he would be playing every night. Lets see what he does when the minutes restriction is lifted. It sucks with both him and Embiid, but I don't think he should go anywhere until we see him, Simmons, and Embiid on the floor together, or at least all healthy at the same time.

rzzzzz · Post #290 » by **rzzzzz** » Sat Nov 12, 2016 9:42 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:Who said Simmons' favorite coach is Brett Brown and his favorite teammate is Okafor?

no one i know. though now that you mention it, the Australian connection plus Brett's "Magic" suggestion don't hurt. Okafor does seem to be Joel's favorite team mate, going back to when he welcomed "my African brother" to the team the day BEFORE the draft. of course the three of them were noticeably hanging out this summer. yeah, the NBA is a business and these guys need to be pros, but that cuts both ways, and it don't ever hurt to be the destination where 2 or 3 high level buddies choose to hang out.

spikeslovechild · Post #291 » by **spikeslovechild** » Sat Nov 12, 2016 9:54 pm

He's not right at the moment. Sucks I was looking to see how his game has evolved since last season

phifans · Post #292 » by **phifans** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:31 am

TTP wrote:
Why would you think otherwise? The guy you responded to said that he hopes Okafor rebuilds some value so that we can trade him. That translates to rooting him to succeed while here so that we can trade him for a greater return. I want the same. It makes no sense to root for your own players to fail and I haven't seen much evidence of that - clearly only someone very foolish would think that way. You always want your players to have as much value as possible, even if you don't like their fit long-term.

Don't fool yourself . You root him to succeed but still want to trade him ?
You don't root him to succeed you just don't believe him to succeed but hope he could pretend to succeed so as we could succeedly trade him away.

TTP · Post #293 » by **TTP** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:41 am

phifans wrote:
TTP wrote:
Why would you think otherwise? The guy you responded to said that he hopes Okafor rebuilds some value so that we can trade him. That translates to rooting him to succeed while here so that we can trade him for a greater return. I want the same. It makes no sense to root for your own players to fail and I haven't seen much evidence of that - clearly only someone very foolish would think that way. You always want your players to have as much value as possible, even if you don't like their fit long-term.

Don't fool yourself . You root him to succeed but still want to trade him ?
You don't root him to succeed you just don't believe him to succeed but hope he could pretend to succeed so as we could succeedly trade him away.

I have had a few drinks tonight but doubt that I could comprehend what you're saying even when sober. As already stated, I root for him to succeed but don't think he fits into our optimal long term plans.

76ciology · Post #294 » by **76ciology** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:07 am

He just need to keep driving on offense. He's efficiency drops at the post and it's difficult to get him the ball.

phifans · Post #295 » by **phifans** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:24 am

TTP wrote:
I have had a few drinks tonight but doubt that I could comprehend what you're saying even when sober. As already stated, I root for him to succeed but don't think he fits into our optimal long term plans.

Hope someone to put up some "nice stats" so that we could trade him away doesn't equal to "root for someone to succeed" if thats what you mean.

TTP · Post #296 » by **TTP** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:32 am

phifans wrote:
TTP wrote:
I have had a few drinks tonight but doubt that I could comprehend what you're saying even when sober. As already stated, I root for him to succeed but don't think he fits into our optimal long term plans.

Hope someone to put up some "nice stats" so that we could trade him away doesn't equal to "root for someone to succeed" if thats what you mean.

Yes it does. I certainly want him to succeed. I just have more selfish reasons for his perceived success.

76ciology · Post #297 » by **76ciology** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:54 am

76ciology wrote:Offense:
Extremely low roll man frequency that is killing his offense. But his iso game is underrated that makes up 25% of his offense at 1.25points per possession which is in the 88th percentile. Went from 41% assisted FGs last season to just 19% this season.

Read on Twitter

He's tough to contain driving off the dribble.

SelfishPlayer · Post #298 » by **SelfishPlayer** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:26 am

Why is Brett Brown comfortable with placing Dario at center with Ersan at PF but we never see Embiid, Holmes, and Okafor on the floor at the same time? Ersan got dunked on by Bazemore and Dwight. When Dario and Ersan were the big me that Atlanta team ran up the lead. Jahlil feasted against Kris Humphries' defense, a man that has been a PF over the bulk of his professional career. I want to see a lineup that dictates that Okafor is guarded by the power forward. Teams do not have enough big men to match up against the Sixers.

Post #299 » by **Foshan** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 6:44 am

SelfishPlayer wrote:Teams do not have enough big men to match up against the Sixers.

This is true when Embiid / Okafor / Noel / Holmes / Simmons / Saric are all playing... not quite so much in our current situation.

But I'm really hoping we can have a short time to see what Okafor/Embiid look like together before we move Noel/Okafor and get forced into them not playing together.

spikeslovechild · Post #300 » by **spikeslovechild** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:09 am

76ciology wrote:He just need to keep driving on offense. He's efficiency drops at the post and it's difficult to get him the ball.

Post is a relative term considering how far away from the basket he gets the ball.

What was sort of eyeopening to me is how easy their guards were able to get the ball to their bigs deep. I'm like why can't our PG's do that?

Then I remember none of them are legit threats to score. Why leave your man if you see TJ driving. You know he's just going to circle and pass it out anyways.