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Post#101 » by Prokorov » Thu Nov 10, 2016 9:43 pm

Too Much talk about Trump... not enough talk about all 3 branches controlled by republicans AND a republican (trump) appointing the next Supreme court justice.

There are HUGE ramifications to that... and not that its all republic per say... but control all by 1 party is ALWAYS bad:

1) Tons of pork is going to be pushed through Washington with no opposition. No president to line item veto, and the senate/house arent going to step in eachother ways. everyones pork goes through. Tax payer dollars lining pockets like you read about. this may be the #1 worst thing about trump being electected.

2) supreme court appointments are pretty much lifetime positions. and with 2 others in their 80's we may have trump appoint 2 more. that a real shift in how this country will be shaped and who hears supreme court cases. those rulings set precidents that all future cases will be dependant on. this is scary!

3) the politicizing of climate change, and the republicans being on the wrong side of it, could have catastrophic events. we have already seen trump 100 day plan repeal everything blocking oil pipelines and pulling back all funding to the UN for climate change projects and support. Climate change isnt a political issue... its science.

Actuaries are writing in policy for climate related disaster for big insurance companies. that doesnt happen when its not backed by science.

I was suprised to like alot of what trump had in that 100 day plan, but alot of it is scary.... but the scariest part is that there are just no checks and balances. from his inaguartion through his first term NOTHING is opposed and everything goes through.

The entire reasons for the 3 branches of the Governtment is so that no one had absolute power... but the way the part system operates, thats just what we have... 1 entity (the republican party) with absolute power.
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Post#102 » by shakendfries » Thu Nov 10, 2016 9:45 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:Man, the horror stories I've been seeing about the abuse young kids are taking in schools across the country right now is making me physically ill. and by young kids, i mean children and teenagers of color (black, asian, indian, latino, muslim) having to deal with outright racist bullying and harrassment. I'm also reading incidents where young women (ESPECIALLY white ones) are being groped and other god awful things. Not to mention muslim, latino, and black women being approached by white males and threatened. Children and women should not have to endure this. I wouldn't care if someone wanted to try me in that manner, i'm a grown man 6'0 215, I'd love for someone to try me but god this is disgusting. Trump's rhetoric and his victory has emboldened the worst of American society.

I'm glad I don't have children yet, seeing this may make me not want to ever have them. I could not imagine going to school to hall way chants of 'white power' and being randomly called a n*gger by some kid who comes from a racist household, seeing a hispanic friend being gleefully told that they're going to get kicked out of the country, a muslim friend being called a terrorist or having their hijab ripped off by some neanderthal, or an asian friend being called a "Jap" to their face, i would have started throwing punches. i know kids nowadays are discouraged from smashing some bully's head in so they have to endure this and it's not right.

either way, it's going to come to a point where people of color are going to have to seriously start looking out for each other no matter what our background is, especially women. and decent americans of all backgrounds need to be mindful that our women and lgbters are also in the line of fire when it comes to these trumptards because anything non white, non straight, and a female is a target.


I feel for these kids, but to be honest these kids need to learn how to deal with ****. To put it plainly, how do you let yourself get oppressed in 2016?

This is coming from the point of view of someone who has dealt with situations like these in my own upbringing. At the end of the day, knowing how to stand up for oneself and wear their background/ethnicity/orientation/identity proudly is a life skill since nobody else is going to do it for them. Certainly not any politician.

If you're really worried about your kids, I'd invest in some boxing gloves so they know how to check someone for getting reckless or punch them in their **** face.


Listen, I'm with you about teaching kids to whip someone's ass, but not everyone is built to defend themselves (especially undersized kids or someone who may be special needs), and you're oversimplifying this especially when a lot of these kids i'm talking about taking this abuse right now are in situations where they are outnumbered. I went to a school that was predominantly white and thank god i went to school with good people who never did this stuff, but I can easily empathize with minority kids who are outnumbered having to deal with this stuff, it has to be unnerving, I can imagine parents who have kids in schools like that are probably in fear for their safety. Nevermind the fact that administrators will be quick to punish the abusee for lashing out at the abuser which has discouraged kids from fighting back...it's not that simple.

And we are also talking about FEMALES being imposed upon by racist white males, picking soft targets. This isn't a case of hey man up these are very vulnerable people in our society who are now at risk of being preyed upon by an element that is now radicalized. Now I'm sitting here worried about family members, friends' children etc being approached if they are alone. This is nuts


If you were driving a car and some homeless person started to hurl racial slurs at you how would you respond? Would you be offended? Would you call the cops to come help you? Would you complain to someone? Would you try to find their information to report them to someone? Or would you peel off knowing the battle wouldn't be worth your time?

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Let's say you're at a bar and some drunkard comes up to you and begins insulting you. Do you engage physically? What if you're in an unsavory environment where you're outnumbered. You're not sure how many people at the bar the drunkard is friends with, and you're there alone. Do you risk putting your well being on the line? A fight as an adult is a situation that can have many negative reprecussions. You never know if someone else could be armed, or whether your health/freedom could be thrown away over something relatively trivial.

What if the situation was different, and one in which you couldn't simply ignore the person and move on. Let's say it was an environment where you have to interact with that person on a daily basis. What if the person who offended you has much more social cache than you and if you were to complain you risk being ostracized. What if it's a supervisor, who couldn't easily be done away with. Any outward and overt battles between you would likely spell your own demise. How do you maintain the appearance of being fair, and decent, subtle and democratic yet duplicitous all at once?

When you're in a delicate position where you have to serve some individuals and your reputation precedes your success, how do you engage others while positioning yourself to succeed at their expense? How do you deal with those who would scheme against you?

America is supposed to represent the height of civilization and refinement. Violent or overt moves are frowned upon. Such is true for racism/sexism/and prejudice, which are far more likely to manifest subtly rather than overtly. Case and point, the paradox of having a black president while things haven't been worse those living in black communities from the president's hometown highlights the hypocrisy that exists within the nation.

If you're fearful for your child's well being, are you more concerned with how they respond to the homeless person throwing insults, or dealing with the more subtle racism of dealing with a prejudiced professor at a PWI, coworker, or even boss? How do you equip them tactically to compose themselves in such a world?

Surely, dealing with a playground bully may have a solution that can be solved with a few karate classes, but engaging oneself within the confines of the corporate world are far more nuanced. The stakes are higher, and using force to respond is simply unacceptable, so maintaining an appearance of elegance while pursuing a different means of engaging enemies is far more prudent as an individual to respond to such scenarios.

Such is the paradox of living as an American today. Many are of the mentality that social acceptance is the hallmark of a civilized society. However, this avoids the fact that everyone harbors negative views. In a society in which racism manifests itself subtly in ways that are deemed societal norms, such as using the term minority in order to politically marginalize individuals, carrying oneself in a way that is both productive and yet, strong enough not to let others take advantage of you is perhaps the biggest challenge life presents.
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Re: Official Current Affairs & Politics thread 

Post#103 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:02 pm

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These guys have such balls, targeting women in the street and at gas stations alone. They talk so much **** about us n words but don't want to approach any black men with this nonsense because they'll be beaten til their unresponsive.

And the way the schools protect these little racist **** stains is great. So a minority child can be verbally abused and slurred, and if he or she snaps, they're the one who will pay. Great message school admins send, but par for the course.

This will get violent and I hope these deplorables are prepared when the response comes. Because I think these morons just think that they aren't going to get pushback. This isn't 1956, someone's going to mess around and get shot.
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Post#104 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:12 pm

shakendfries wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
shakendfries wrote:
I feel for these kids, but to be honest these kids need to learn how to deal with ****. To put it plainly, how do you let yourself get oppressed in 2016?

This is coming from the point of view of someone who has dealt with situations like these in my own upbringing. At the end of the day, knowing how to stand up for oneself and wear their background/ethnicity/orientation/identity proudly is a life skill since nobody else is going to do it for them. Certainly not any politician.

If you're really worried about your kids, I'd invest in some boxing gloves so they know how to check someone for getting reckless or punch them in their **** face.


Listen, I'm with you about teaching kids to whip someone's ass, but not everyone is built to defend themselves (especially undersized kids or someone who may be special needs), and you're oversimplifying this especially when a lot of these kids i'm talking about taking this abuse right now are in situations where they are outnumbered. I went to a school that was predominantly white and thank god i went to school with good people who never did this stuff, but I can easily empathize with minority kids who are outnumbered having to deal with this stuff, it has to be unnerving, I can imagine parents who have kids in schools like that are probably in fear for their safety. Nevermind the fact that administrators will be quick to punish the abusee for lashing out at the abuser which has discouraged kids from fighting back...it's not that simple.

And we are also talking about FEMALES being imposed upon by racist white males, picking soft targets. This isn't a case of hey man up these are very vulnerable people in our society who are now at risk of being preyed upon by an element that is now radicalized. Now I'm sitting here worried about family members, friends' children etc being approached if they are alone. This is nuts


If you were driving a car and some homeless person started to hurl racial slurs at you how would you respond? Would you be offended? Would you call the cops to come help you? Would you complain to someone? Would you try to find their information to report them to someone? Or would you peel off knowing the battle wouldn't be worth your time?

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Let's say you're at a bar and some drunkard comes up to you and begins insulting you. Do you engage physically? What if you're in an unsavory environment where you're outnumbered. You're not sure how many people at the bar the drunkard is friends with, and you're there alone. Do you risk putting your well being on the line? A fight as an adult is a situation that can have many negative reprecussions. You never know if someone else could be armed, or whether your health/freedom could be thrown away over something relatively trivial.

What if the situation was different, and one in which you couldn't simply ignore the person and move on. Let's say it was an environment where you have to interact with that person on a daily basis. What if the person who offended you has much more social cache than you and if you were to complain you risk being ostracized. What if it's a supervisor, who couldn't easily be done away with. Any outward and overt battles between you would likely spell your own demise. How do you maintain the appearance of being fair, and decent, subtle and democratic yet duplicitous all at once?

When you're in a delicate position where you have to serve some individuals and your reputation precedes your success, how do you engage others while positioning yourself to succeed at their expense? How do you deal with those who would scheme against you?

America is supposed to represent the height of civilization and refinement. Violent or overt moves are frowned upon. Such is true for racism/sexism/and prejudice, which are far more likely to manifest subtly rather than overtly. Case and point, the paradox of having a black president while things haven't been worse those living in black communities from the president's hometown highlights the hypocrisy that exists within the nation.

If you're fearful for your child's well being, are you more concerned with how they respond to the homeless person throwing insults, or dealing with the more subtle racism of dealing with a prejudiced professor at a PWI, coworker, or even boss? How do you equip them tactically to compose themselves in such a world?

Surely, dealing with a playground bully may have a solution that can be solved with a few karate classes, but engaging oneself within the confines of the corporate world are far more nuanced. The stakes are higher, and using force to respond is simply unacceptable, so maintaining an appearance of elegance while pursuing a different means of engaging enemies is far more prudent as an individual to respond to such scenarios.

Such is the paradox of living as an American today. Many are of the mentality that social acceptance is the hallmark of a civilized society. However, this avoids the fact that everyone harbors negative views. In a society in which racism manifests itself subtly in ways that are deemed societal norms, such as using the term minority in order to politically marginalize individuals, carrying oneself in a way that is both productive and yet, strong enough not to let others take advantage of you is perhaps the biggest challenge life presents.


I'd have a damn good laugh at some homeless person calling me a n*gger, I can't lie. :lol:

What you're talking about is picking and choosing your battles. Any rational adult knows this. I'm not concerned with how I'll act in an adverse situation. I work in a corporate environment, if someone was dumb enough to cross that line I'm not going to beat the brakes off of them unless they put their hands on me, other wise its off to HR I go to document the situation and explore what actions could be taken against the company if the issue isn't handled immediately. I've dealt with a lot of crap so what you are preaching to the choir friend, 100%.

This isn't about me. I'm expressing concern for those that cannot defend themselves in vulnerable situations and are going to be preyed upon by these animals. The videos I saw today, no child should have to deal with that.
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Post#105 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:20 pm

Prokorov wrote:Too Much talk about Trump... not enough talk about all 3 branches controlled by republicans AND a republican (trump) appointing the next Supreme court justice.

There are HUGE ramifications to that... and not that its all republic per say... but control all by 1 party is ALWAYS bad:

1) Tons of pork is going to be pushed through Washington with no opposition. No president to line item veto, and the senate/house arent going to step in eachother ways. everyones pork goes through. Tax payer dollars lining pockets like you read about. this may be the #1 worst thing about trump being electected.

2) supreme court appointments are pretty much lifetime positions. and with 2 others in their 80's we may have trump appoint 2 more. that a real shift in how this country will be shaped and who hears supreme court cases. those rulings set precidents that all future cases will be dependant on. this is scary!

3) the politicizing of climate change, and the republicans being on the wrong side of it, could have catastrophic events. we have already seen trump 100 day plan repeal everything blocking oil pipelines and pulling back all funding to the UN for climate change projects and support. Climate change isnt a political issue... its science.

Actuaries are writing in policy for climate related disaster for big insurance companies. that doesnt happen when its not backed by science.

I was suprised to like alot of what trump had in that 100 day plan, but alot of it is scary.... but the scariest part is that there are just no checks and balances. from his inaguartion through his first term NOTHING is opposed and everything goes through.

The entire reasons for the 3 branches of the Governtment is so that no one had absolute power... but the way the part system operates, thats just what we have... 1 entity (the republican party) with absolute power.


100% correct.

And I have zero control over this, so I won't lose sleep over it. The only thing that will happen now, is that the check will come due, so those that voted for this man, and voted to give Republicans complete control will suffer the consequences just like the rest of us.

At the end of the day, the middle class will get squeezed (sucks for me, unless Trump cuts my taxes which would be great short term for me), and the poor rust belters and southerners that voted based on their bigotry will be hammered because everything he promised them is a bunch of hot air. Who will they demonize then?

Basically, America will have to deal with a painful lesson over the next four years because I imagine by the time it's time for mid terms and another presidential election the GOP will have people wanting to string them and Trump up from lamp posts. The most damage that will be done will be on the Supreme Court....and I see no way of solving that unless Trump goes RINO and makes moderate nominations.

In the meantime, the DNC needs to clean house and go full on moderate/progressive and push the people that failed this country to the backburner. That may mean removing corporate money from the coffers. Can't see that happening.
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Post#106 » by shakendfries » Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:38 pm

Prokorov wrote:Too Much talk about Trump... not enough talk about all 3 branches controlled by republicans AND a republican (trump) appointing the next Supreme court justice.

There are HUGE ramifications to that... and not that its all republic per say... but control all by 1 party is ALWAYS bad:

1) Tons of pork is going to be pushed through Washington with no opposition. No president to line item veto, and the senate/house arent going to step in eachother ways. everyones pork goes through. Tax payer dollars lining pockets like you read about. this may be the #1 worst thing about trump being electected.

2) supreme court appointments are pretty much lifetime positions. and with 2 others in their 80's we may have trump appoint 2 more. that a real shift in how this country will be shaped and who hears supreme court cases. those rulings set precidents that all future cases will be dependant on. this is scary!

3) the politicizing of climate change, and the republicans being on the wrong side of it, could have catastrophic events. we have already seen trump 100 day plan repeal everything blocking oil pipelines and pulling back all funding to the UN for climate change projects and support. Climate change isnt a political issue... its science.

Actuaries are writing in policy for climate related disaster for big insurance companies. that doesnt happen when its not backed by science.

I was suprised to like alot of what trump had in that 100 day plan, but alot of it is scary.... but the scariest part is that there are just no checks and balances. from his inaguartion through his first term NOTHING is opposed and everything goes through.

The entire reasons for the 3 branches of the Governtment is so that no one had absolute power... but the way the part system operates, thats just what we have... 1 entity (the republican party) with absolute power.


And this is 100% the DNC's fault. Not only did Hilary lose, but the guidance of her, Wasserman Schultz, and Podesta led to the dems political ruin across all 3 branches

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The Warriors went 73-9 and lied and still wasn't a bigger letdown than Hilary having all the dam experience in the world and losing the election to Trump :nonono:
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Post#107 » by Prokorov » Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:44 pm

shakendfries wrote:
Prokorov wrote:Too Much talk about Trump... not enough talk about all 3 branches controlled by republicans AND a republican (trump) appointing the next Supreme court justice.

There are HUGE ramifications to that... and not that its all republic per say... but control all by 1 party is ALWAYS bad:

1) Tons of pork is going to be pushed through Washington with no opposition. No president to line item veto, and the senate/house arent going to step in eachother ways. everyones pork goes through. Tax payer dollars lining pockets like you read about. this may be the #1 worst thing about trump being electected.

2) supreme court appointments are pretty much lifetime positions. and with 2 others in their 80's we may have trump appoint 2 more. that a real shift in how this country will be shaped and who hears supreme court cases. those rulings set precidents that all future cases will be dependant on. this is scary!

3) the politicizing of climate change, and the republicans being on the wrong side of it, could have catastrophic events. we have already seen trump 100 day plan repeal everything blocking oil pipelines and pulling back all funding to the UN for climate change projects and support. Climate change isnt a political issue... its science.

Actuaries are writing in policy for climate related disaster for big insurance companies. that doesnt happen when its not backed by science.

I was suprised to like alot of what trump had in that 100 day plan, but alot of it is scary.... but the scariest part is that there are just no checks and balances. from his inaguartion through his first term NOTHING is opposed and everything goes through.

The entire reasons for the 3 branches of the Governtment is so that no one had absolute power... but the way the part system operates, thats just what we have... 1 entity (the republican party) with absolute power.


And this is 100% the DNC's fault. Not only did Hilary lose, but the guidance of her, Wasserman Schultz, and Podesta led to the dems political ruin across all 3 branches

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The Warriors went 73-9 and lied and still wasn't a bigger letdown than Hilary having all the dam experience in the world and losing the election to Trump :nonono:


DNC screwed the pooch when they railroaded sanders.... sanders polled really well vs trump. hillary was near even. the party was scared to have a candidate who was going to take their pork away and be aggressive towards their side of the aisle. superdelegates going against the delegates and not voting bernie. shameful.

Arrogant move as well for Hillary to bring the DNC staffers who were forced to step down after the leaks on to her campaign... just pour salt in the wounds of bernie supporters. no suprise they went gary johnson in big numbers.
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Post#108 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:13 am

Prokorov wrote:
shakendfries wrote:
Prokorov wrote:Too Much talk about Trump... not enough talk about all 3 branches controlled by republicans AND a republican (trump) appointing the next Supreme court justice.

There are HUGE ramifications to that... and not that its all republic per say... but control all by 1 party is ALWAYS bad:

1) Tons of pork is going to be pushed through Washington with no opposition. No president to line item veto, and the senate/house arent going to step in eachother ways. everyones pork goes through. Tax payer dollars lining pockets like you read about. this may be the #1 worst thing about trump being electected.

2) supreme court appointments are pretty much lifetime positions. and with 2 others in their 80's we may have trump appoint 2 more. that a real shift in how this country will be shaped and who hears supreme court cases. those rulings set precidents that all future cases will be dependant on. this is scary!

3) the politicizing of climate change, and the republicans being on the wrong side of it, could have catastrophic events. we have already seen trump 100 day plan repeal everything blocking oil pipelines and pulling back all funding to the UN for climate change projects and support. Climate change isnt a political issue... its science.

Actuaries are writing in policy for climate related disaster for big insurance companies. that doesnt happen when its not backed by science.

I was suprised to like alot of what trump had in that 100 day plan, but alot of it is scary.... but the scariest part is that there are just no checks and balances. from his inaguartion through his first term NOTHING is opposed and everything goes through.

The entire reasons for the 3 branches of the Governtment is so that no one had absolute power... but the way the part system operates, thats just what we have... 1 entity (the republican party) with absolute power.


And this is 100% the DNC's fault. Not only did Hilary lose, but the guidance of her, Wasserman Schultz, and Podesta led to the dems political ruin across all 3 branches

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The Warriors went 73-9 and lied and still wasn't a bigger letdown than Hilary having all the dam experience in the world and losing the election to Trump :nonono:


DNC screwed the pooch when they railroaded sanders.... sanders polled really well vs trump. hillary was near even. the party was scared to have a candidate who was going to take their pork away and be aggressive towards their side of the aisle. superdelegates going against the delegates and not voting bernie. shameful.

Arrogant move as well for Hillary to bring the DNC staffers who were forced to step down after the leaks on to her campaign... just pour salt in the wounds of bernie supporters. no suprise they went gary johnson in big numbers.


The arrogance of the DNC heads is now causing some serious pushback and a progressive takeover of the party seems imminent. If Keith Ellison becomes DNC chair it will be a good step in the right direction and the start of a much needed purge.

Get the trash out. The right flocked to an anti establishment candidate, the left had the perfect counter and he got railroaded. Anyone who had a hand in that, and we have names and proof, need to be ostracized.

And honestly, this election made my disgust for Hilary Clinton increase tenfold. Her selfishness put this country at serious risk. She was not fit to run and everyone knew that
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Post#109 » by tonman » Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:42 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
shakendfries wrote:
And this is 100% the DNC's fault. Not only did Hilary lose, but the guidance of her, Wasserman Schultz, and Podesta led to the dems political ruin across all 3 branches

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The Warriors went 73-9 and lied and still wasn't a bigger letdown than Hilary having all the dam experience in the world and losing the election to Trump :nonono:


DNC screwed the pooch when they railroaded sanders.... sanders polled really well vs trump. hillary was near even. the party was scared to have a candidate who was going to take their pork away and be aggressive towards their side of the aisle. superdelegates going against the delegates and not voting bernie. shameful.

Arrogant move as well for Hillary to bring the DNC staffers who were forced to step down after the leaks on to her campaign... just pour salt in the wounds of bernie supporters. no suprise they went gary johnson in big numbers.


The arrogance of the DNC heads is now causing some serious pushback and a progressive takeover of the party seems imminent. If Keith Ellison becomes DNC chair it will be a good step in the right direction and the start of a much needed purge.

Get the trash out. The right flocked to an anti establishment candidate, the left had the perfect counter and he got railroaded. Anyone who had a hand in that, and we have names and proof, need to be ostracized.

And honestly, this election made my disgust for Hilary Clinton increase tenfold. Her selfishness put this country at serious risk. She was not fit to run and everyone knew that


Bernie was just as selfish delaying his endorsement of Clinton because he felt railroaded. Bottom line these parties are too big and the party bosses do not represent th e whole party thinking. How are the republicans going to govern? By ignoring half the population?

It's time for political reform but I doubt either party have the balls to do anything. It was time to have a woman president. She couldn't do any worse.
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Post#111 » by shakendfries » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:05 pm

tonman wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
DNC screwed the pooch when they railroaded sanders.... sanders polled really well vs trump. hillary was near even. the party was scared to have a candidate who was going to take their pork away and be aggressive towards their side of the aisle. superdelegates going against the delegates and not voting bernie. shameful.

Arrogant move as well for Hillary to bring the DNC staffers who were forced to step down after the leaks on to her campaign... just pour salt in the wounds of bernie supporters. no suprise they went gary johnson in big numbers.


The arrogance of the DNC heads is now causing some serious pushback and a progressive takeover of the party seems imminent. If Keith Ellison becomes DNC chair it will be a good step in the right direction and the start of a much needed purge.

Get the trash out. The right flocked to an anti establishment candidate, the left had the perfect counter and he got railroaded. Anyone who had a hand in that, and we have names and proof, need to be ostracized.

And honestly, this election made my disgust for Hilary Clinton increase tenfold. Her selfishness put this country at serious risk. She was not fit to run and everyone knew that


Bernie was just as selfish delaying his endorsement of Clinton because he felt railroaded. Bottom line these parties are too big and the party bosses do not represent th e whole party thinking. How are the republicans going to govern? By ignoring half the population?

It's time for political reform but I doubt either party have the balls to do anything. It was time to have a woman president. She couldn't do any worse.


Are you serious? Have you paid any attention to the leaks proving Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the DNC leadership deliberately went out of their way to sabotage Bernie's campaign? You do realize she was literally given the questions before each debate because of her ties with certain media outlets? Do you honestly believe politics is duck duck goose where everyone gets a turn?



Everything about Hilary is disgusting and arrogant. Blaming the FBI director, the only branch of the government that can investigate corruption within the federal government, for doing his job just exemplifies her sense of entitlement, and her perception that that she should be above the law.Her blatant pandering to special interest groups is just as racist as anything that happened across the aisle. She literally thought she could dab her way into the white house.

At the end of the day, she ran the laziest political campaign that I have ever witnessed. She said nothing of substance in the debates other than point out that she isn't Trump, and people didn't buy it. I don't care what you do for a living, if you have 20 years of experience and you lose to someone with no experience...twice....you suck. People don't trust you. Plain and simple. Not only did Hilary lose, but her leadership led to the party's political ruin. She made her bed and is laying in it.
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Post#113 » by tonman » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:23 pm

shakendfries wrote:
tonman wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
The arrogance of the DNC heads is now causing some serious pushback and a progressive takeover of the party seems imminent. If Keith Ellison becomes DNC chair it will be a good step in the right direction and the start of a much needed purge.

Get the trash out. The right flocked to an anti establishment candidate, the left had the perfect counter and he got railroaded. Anyone who had a hand in that, and we have names and proof, need to be ostracized.

And honestly, this election made my disgust for Hilary Clinton increase tenfold. Her selfishness put this country at serious risk. She was not fit to run and everyone knew that


Bernie was just as selfish delaying his endorsement of Clinton because he felt railroaded. Bottom line these parties are too big and the party bosses do not represent th e whole party thinking. How are the republicans going to govern? By ignoring half the population?

It's time for political reform but I doubt either party have the balls to do anything. It was time to have a woman president. She couldn't do any worse.


Are you serious? Have you paid any attention to the leaks proving Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the DNC leadership deliberately went out of their way to sabotage Bernie's campaign? You do realize she was literally given the questions before each debate because of her ties with certain media outlets? Do you honestly believe politics is duck duck goose where everyone gets a turn?



Everything about Hilary is disgusting and arrogant. Blaming the FBI director, the only branch of the government that can investigate corruption within the federal government, for doing his job just exemplifies her sense of entitlement, and her perception that that she should be above the law.Her blatant pandering to special interest groups is just as racist as anything that happened across the aisle. She literally thought she could dab her way into the white house.

At the end of the day, she ran the laziest political campaign that I have ever witnessed. She said nothing of substance in the debates other than point out that she isn't Trump, and people didn't buy it. I don't care what you do for a living, if you have 20 years of experience and you lose to someone with no experience...twice....you suck. People don't trust you. Plain and simple. Not only did Hilary lose, but her leadership led to the party's political ruin. She made her bed and is laying in it.


And you don't think the republican party tried to railroad trump? We only hear about the emails how? Again you have party leadership pushing an agenda. Bottom line Bernie is not moderate. You have a divisive country. Which way you want to move?
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Post#114 » by shakendfries » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:26 pm

tonman wrote:And you don't think the republican party tried to railroad trump? We only hear about the emails how? Again you have party leadership pushing an agenda. Bottom line Bernie is not moderate. You have a divisive country. Which way you want to move?


She cheated. She sucked. Her entire party lost. Get over it.
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Post#115 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:30 am

tonman wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
DNC screwed the pooch when they railroaded sanders.... sanders polled really well vs trump. hillary was near even. the party was scared to have a candidate who was going to take their pork away and be aggressive towards their side of the aisle. superdelegates going against the delegates and not voting bernie. shameful.

Arrogant move as well for Hillary to bring the DNC staffers who were forced to step down after the leaks on to her campaign... just pour salt in the wounds of bernie supporters. no suprise they went gary johnson in big numbers.


The arrogance of the DNC heads is now causing some serious pushback and a progressive takeover of the party seems imminent. If Keith Ellison becomes DNC chair it will be a good step in the right direction and the start of a much needed purge.

Get the trash out. The right flocked to an anti establishment candidate, the left had the perfect counter and he got railroaded. Anyone who had a hand in that, and we have names and proof, need to be ostracized.

And honestly, this election made my disgust for Hilary Clinton increase tenfold. Her selfishness put this country at serious risk. She was not fit to run and everyone knew that


Bernie was just as selfish delaying his endorsement of Clinton because he felt railroaded. Bottom line these parties are too big and the party bosses do not represent th e whole party thinking. How are the republicans going to govern? By ignoring half the population?

It's time for political reform but I doubt either party have the balls to do anything. It was time to have a woman president. She couldn't do any worse.


He was railroaded, and DWS is a piece of garbage. He had every right to delay his endorsement, and it didn't do anything in the long run because the DNC got arrogant and thought they had his supporters in the bag. That whole "oh, get over it" attitude Clinton, Wasserman Schultz and the rest of them had cost Clinton heavily.

I have nothing against having a female president, I voted for Clinton because at least she'd be sane enough not to drive the truck off of the road but her gender doesn't mean squat. She polled terribly versus Trump for months compared to Sanders. The DNC screwed the sensible adults in this country with their idiocy.
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Post#116 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:43 am

tonman wrote:
shakendfries wrote:
tonman wrote:
Bernie was just as selfish delaying his endorsement of Clinton because he felt railroaded. Bottom line these parties are too big and the party bosses do not represent th e whole party thinking. How are the republicans going to govern? By ignoring half the population?

It's time for political reform but I doubt either party have the balls to do anything. It was time to have a woman president. She couldn't do any worse.


Are you serious? Have you paid any attention to the leaks proving Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the DNC leadership deliberately went out of their way to sabotage Bernie's campaign? You do realize she was literally given the questions before each debate because of her ties with certain media outlets? Do you honestly believe politics is duck duck goose where everyone gets a turn?



Everything about Hilary is disgusting and arrogant. Blaming the FBI director, the only branch of the government that can investigate corruption within the federal government, for doing his job just exemplifies her sense of entitlement, and her perception that that she should be above the law.Her blatant pandering to special interest groups is just as racist as anything that happened across the aisle. She literally thought she could dab her way into the white house.

At the end of the day, she ran the laziest political campaign that I have ever witnessed. She said nothing of substance in the debates other than point out that she isn't Trump, and people didn't buy it. I don't care what you do for a living, if you have 20 years of experience and you lose to someone with no experience...twice....you suck. People don't trust you. Plain and simple. Not only did Hilary lose, but her leadership led to the party's political ruin. She made her bed and is laying in it.


And you don't think the republican party tried to railroad trump? We only hear about the emails how? Again you have party leadership pushing an agenda. Bottom line Bernie is not moderate. You have a divisive country. Which way you want to move?


They tried to railroad Trump but his advantage was too great. Trump was able to say openly racist, bigoted things which immediately won over the uneducated, racist white american voters in overwhelming numbers (and also basically blew the lid off of America's worst kept secret: this nation is polluted with pockets of white supremacists). His opponents all had constituencies to answer to, had they said 1/10th of what Trump did their elected position would be in serious trouble back home. there's a big difference between some governor, senator, or representative dog whistling with subtle statements about "entitlements" and some lunatic saying that mexicans are a bunch of rapists, blacks are all uneducated, and muslims should be banned from our country.

Bernie is not moderate and he didn't need to be, because he was honest, and his voting record proved that he was legit. That's what energized his supporters. Clinton had way too much dirt on her, said very little of substance, and frankly she put herself before what was good for her party and country and got exactly what she deserved.

And now America, land of white supremacist pigs, will get what it deserves.
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Post#117 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:44 am

Rich Rane wrote:Bannon is Chief Strategist, Priebus is Chief Of Staff:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-pick-republican-party-chair-priebus-chief/story?id=43491108


Bannon is an anti semite and a white supremacist.

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Post#118 » by Vae Victus » Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:44 pm

The only way America is gonna learn its lesson is to take another dick and gut punch combo. One would think we learned our lesson with Dubya's about massive tax cuts leading to mega prosperity. People's memories are very short, 8 years is evidently enough to forget about the horrors of the previous recession. GOP gonna roll back the clock on alot of hard fought social progress.

Minorities and LGBT, we're gonna take one helluva beating as the clock gets reset. The greatest fear was that the "deplorables" would get emboldened by their "man's" victory, and right now they're feeling their oats and making their "displeasure" with the rest of us known.

Eh, other than the Supreme Court potentially swinging far right, the Dems losing now can pave the wave for huge gains in 2020 if they play their cards right. If Trump and the GOP are the dumpster fire that we fear him to be, it's pretty much a slam dunk, unless the DNC finds another way to **** it all up.

One can only blame Obama and the Dems for so long when you have total control of the government. The great irony was that the GOP was setting up for HIlary as president while controlling the House/Senate and then blaming her for everything. Now if anything goes right they're just gonna throw Trump under the bus unless he completely plays ball.
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Post#119 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:36 pm

Vae Victus wrote:The only way America is gonna learn its lesson is to take another dick and gut punch combo. One would think we learned our lesson with Dubya's about massive tax cuts leading to mega prosperity. People's memories are very short, 8 years is evidently enough to forget about the horrors of the previous recession. GOP gonna roll back the clock on alot of hard fought social progress.

Minorities and LGBT, we're gonna take one helluva beating as the clock gets reset. The greatest fear was that the "deplorables" would get emboldened by their "man's" victory, and right now they're feeling their oats and making their "displeasure" with the rest of us known.

Eh, other than the Supreme Court potentially swinging far right, the Dems losing now can pave the wave for huge gains in 2020 if they play their cards right. If Trump and the GOP are the dumpster fire that we fear him to be, it's pretty much a slam dunk, unless the DNC finds another way to **** it all up.

One can only blame Obama and the Dems for so long when you have total control of the government. The great irony was that the GOP was setting up for HIlary as president while controlling the House/Senate and then blaming her for everything. Now if anything goes right they're just gonna throw Trump under the bus unless he completely plays ball.


If Trump's tax plan goes through the poor and uneducated "deplorables" are going to be in for a rude awakening when they find out that they can't file for head of household anymore.

Plenty of poor & uneducated white single mothers voted for Trump. They think that it will only be poor urban minorities getting burned, watch what happens.

Then, who will the alt right blame for their woes? Democrats? Minorities?

a hard lesson is about to be learned, and its unfortunate that millions of Americans who don't support this nonsense have to suffer along with those idiots in the south and rust belt.

Meanwhile, the Democrats need to make a super, but sensible push towards a platform that presents realistic progressive policies and initiatives so that they can clean up in the midterms and in the next presidential elections because I will bet the farm that the deplorables and alt right will be jaded and beaten down mentally after four years of Trump stabbing them in the back.
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Post#120 » by MaxZaslofskyJr » Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:09 am

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Actuaries are writing in policy for climate related disaster for big insurance companies. that doesn't happen when its not backed by science.



Good point!

Prokster, are you an actuary by any chance? Me, I got my ASA before deciding I liked Software work much better.

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