Does Jokic have a hangover ?

skywalker33 · Post #1 » by **skywalker33** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:29 am

No, not that kind...thinking more of an Olympic hangover. At first I thought it was his move to the PF position but still not seeing the results we had last year. I guess it could be a sophomore slump, but what ever he still isn't producing the way we're expecting.

Thoughts ?

Post #2 » by **NuggetsWY** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:20 am

skywalker33 wrote:No, not that kind...thinking more of an Olympic hangover. At first I thought it was his move to the PF position but still not seeing the results we had last year. I guess it could be a sophomore slump, but what ever he still isn't producing the way we're expecting.

Thoughts ?

In my career, I often mentored young people just getting started. I found they needed someone to believe in them and most of them turned out pretty good. Getting yanked out of games after just a few minutes, not knowing how many minutes he's going to play, no consistent rotation, not playing at the end of the game - these are things that do not help a young player develop. I keep pointing out that Mudiay averaged 32 mpg game last year and he was decidedly not great. Yet he still gave his best shot at every game.

Post #3 » by **The Rebel** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:41 pm

NuggetsWY wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:No, not that kind...thinking more of an Olympic hangover. At first I thought it was his move to the PF position but still not seeing the results we had last year. I guess it could be a sophomore slump, but what ever he still isn't producing the way we're expecting.

Thoughts ?

In my career, I often mentored young people just getting started. I found they needed someone to believe in them and most of them turned out pretty good. Getting yanked out of games after just a few minutes, not knowing how many minutes he's going to play, no consistent rotation, not playing at the end of the game - these are things that do not help a young player develop. I keep pointing out that Mudiay averaged 32 mpg game last year and he was decidedly not great. Yet he still gave his best shot at every game.

I agree, for him right now it seems to be a confidence issue that is being hurt by our coach not wanting to use bigs for some **** reason.

skywalker33 · Post #4 » by **skywalker33** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:08 pm

Malone has gone on record say mistakes with utilizing Jokic, it's obvious his confidence is down because of this. I think Malone is trying to make both his centers happy, both wanting consistent, quality PT to help get them into their rhythm, understandably so. But most teams have an established player with a backup, not two young studs in head-to-head competition.

Seems to me, Juka started slow last year too only to work his way into his minutes.

Post #5 » by **NuggetsWY** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:35 pm

I think both of our centers would be content with 24 mpg - at least for now. THis game, finally, Jokic got 26 minutes but Nurkic only had 18. That leaves Faried at center for 4 minutes, fewest center minutes for Faried so far this year.

skywalker33 · Post #6 » by **skywalker33** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:55 am

So easy to say they'd both be happy splitting minutes, but who starts, are there contractual incentives, what about matchups.....

As for Faried, he has had some small-ball center success, but again I am for trading him as soon as possible.