DeMarcus Cousins

cedric76 · Post #1 » by **cedric76** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:58 am

If i remember correctly ELF and AG have connection with him

Corliss Williamson had assignments to provide guidance to DeMarcus Cousins.

Do we think he is worth the gamble?

Vuc+Mario+Jeff +LAL 1st for Cousins and Gay?

Vlade really like Vuc and Mario

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ELF,DJ,watson
Evan,meeks,(both CJ)
Gay,AG
Serge,cousins,rudez
Cousins,Biz,Zim

Starting 5

ELF
Evan
Gay
Serge
Cousins

other rotation

ELF
Evan
AG
Cousins
Biz

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Bergmaniac · Post #2 » by **Bergmaniac** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:24 pm

I really doubt the Kings will do that deal. They can easily get a better offer for Cousins and Gay. That Lakers pick is for 2019, isn't it? But then the Lakers will probably be quite good so it's not worth much. Plus 2019 is a long way off.

OrlChamps2030 · Post #3 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:33 pm

Vuc + Mario + green for Cousins? :lol:

p0peye · Post #4 » by **p0peye** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:45 pm

Whatever it takes, its franchise player were talking about.

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BadMofoPimp · Post #5 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:16 pm

Nothing short of AG/Mario/Elf/LAL 1st would probably get er done.

Then, trade Vooch or Biz for a PG and this team is set for this season. Sign a SF in the offseason, resign Ibaka and this team is legit.

NEM · Post #6 » by **NEM** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:18 pm

Kings hang up and laugh.

You have to offer

Vucevic
Gordon
Hezonja
Payton
Our pick this year
Lakers pick

For them to even consider and that probably doesn't get it done.

BadMofoPimp · Post #7 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:51 pm

NEM wrote:Kings hang up and laugh.

You have to offer

Vucevic
Gordon
Hezonja
Payton
Our pick this year
Lakers pick

For them to even consider and that probably doesn't get it done.

If they throw in Gay, where do I sign?

Team:

DJ
Fournier
Gay/Green
Ibaka
Cuz/Biz

Can target PG in draft or FA.

World Domination.

fendilim · Post #8 » by **fendilim** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:26 pm

That's a good one.

Great joke.

dsg2003mach1 · Post #9 » by **dsg2003mach1** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:27 pm

pretty sure management considers him a problem child just like Howard and wont bring him on

Nemesis21 · Post #10 » by **Nemesis21** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:42 pm

No thanks. I'd rather go after Hayward/PG13.

Nemesis21 · Post #11 » by **Nemesis21** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:51 pm

NEM wrote:Kings hang up and laugh.

You have to offer

Vucevic
Gordon
Hezonja
Payton
Our pick this year
Lakers pick

For them to even consider and that probably doesn't get it done.

I hang up and laugh. 4 players and 2 picks for a headcase? NO thanks!

Flannerz · Post #12 » by **Flannerz** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:03 pm

He's a headcase but maybe we need someone that hates losing and isn't afraid to give his teammates a bollocking?

NEM · Post #13 » by **NEM** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:04 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:
NEM wrote:Kings hang up and laugh.

You have to offer

Vucevic
Gordon
Hezonja
Payton
Our pick this year
Lakers pick

For them to even consider and that probably doesn't get it done.

I hang up and laugh. 4 players and 2 picks for a headcase? NO thanks!

A head case who under the right coach may not be a head case. He also puts up 26/10 and has the ability to create, stretch the floor, and defend (ability, not saying he's done so so far).

I honestly think cousins needs a change of scenery from the toxic situation he's currently in, and he will be fine. However, I don't think we are an organization that can provide that stability for him for reasons I won't delve into.

cedric76 · Post #14 » by **cedric76** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:06 pm

some of you are REALLY over valuing his trade value

he is a very big risk, he is known to be alienating his coaches and teammates

I dont see many GM giving the farm for him (this is the type of deal that get GM fired)

Gay is gonna opt out so he is basically an expiring

and if cousins isnt traded by feb, his value will be really low cause he could bolt the next season (remember D12 fiasco)

Obviously mario would have to show more to increase his trade value

i dont think id offer much more than Vuc+mario+1st

NO way i d offer Vucevic+Gordon+Hezonja+Payton+Our pick this year+Lakers pick

MAX MAX MAX offer would be Vuc+mario+AG+1st+jeff for DMC+GAY and i m not even sure i d pull the trigger

Nemesis21 · Post #15 » by **Nemesis21** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:06 pm

NEM wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:
NEM wrote:Kings hang up and laugh.

You have to offer

Vucevic
Gordon
Hezonja
Payton
Our pick this year
Lakers pick

For them to even consider and that probably doesn't get it done.

I hang up and laugh. 4 players and 2 picks for a headcase? NO thanks!

A head case who under the right coach may not be a head case. He also puts up 26/10 and has the ability to create, stretch the floor, and defend (ability, not saying he's done so so far).

I honestly think cousins needs a change of scenery from the toxic situation he's currently in, and he will be fine. However, I don't think we are an organization that can provide that stability for him for reasons I won't delve into.

We have Vuc, BB and Ibaka down low, if we are giving up young players, I'd rather go after Hayward/PG13.

Also Cousins has played for like 3 coaches now, none have been able to calm him on the headcase aspect. So what makes Vogel such a good candidate to? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we have Vogel, but I'd pass on Cousins and go after a scorer.

OrlChamps2030 · Post #16 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:14 pm

dsg2003mach1 wrote:pretty sure management considers him a problem child just like Howard and wont bring him on

True. Ownership has shown they cannot really coexist with alpha personalities like Shaq, D12, TMac, etc. Seems like they prefer the Vucevic type of guys.. Put up okay stats, sell some jerseys, and don't rock the boat in the locker room or off the court

NEM · Post #17 » by **NEM** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:18 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:
NEM wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:

I hang up and laugh. 4 players and 2 picks for a headcase? NO thanks!

A head case who under the right coach may not be a head case. He also puts up 26/10 and has the ability to create, stretch the floor, and defend (ability, not saying he's done so so far).

I honestly think cousins needs a change of scenery from the toxic situation he's currently in, and he will be fine. However, I don't think we are an organization that can provide that stability for him for reasons I won't delve into.

We have Vuc, BB and Ibaka down low, if we are giving up young players, I'd rather go after Hayward/PG13.

Also Cousins has played for like 3 coaches now, none have been able to calm him on the headcase aspect. So what makes Vogel such a good candidate to? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we have Vogel, but I'd pass on Cousins and go after a scorer.

Cousins is a scorer and you'd likely be giving up one of the bigs that you mentioned. You could then pursue Hayward in FA knowing you have a star on your roster.

Not saying it's what we are gonna do, but if the Kings call you and make an offer for cousins, you seriously have to evaluate it and evaluate your position as far as being able to attract FA's.

I think this team needs a full on rebuild of the rebuild so even if we got cousins and he bolted, you'd be in that same position. I think it's worth the risk. JMO.

BadMofoPimp · Post #18 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:33 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:
NEM wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:

I hang up and laugh. 4 players and 2 picks for a headcase? NO thanks!

A head case who under the right coach may not be a head case. He also puts up 26/10 and has the ability to create, stretch the floor, and defend (ability, not saying he's done so so far).

I honestly think cousins needs a change of scenery from the toxic situation he's currently in, and he will be fine. However, I don't think we are an organization that can provide that stability for him for reasons I won't delve into.

We have Vuc, BB and Ibaka down low, if we are giving up young players, I'd rather go after Hayward/PG13.

Also Cousins has played for like 3 coaches now, none have been able to calm him on the headcase aspect. So what makes Vogel such a good candidate to? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we have Vogel, but I'd pass on Cousins and go after a scorer.

So, you are basically saying we stand pat because there is about a snowballs chance in hell both Hayward and PG13 will ever come to the Magic. Ain't gonna happen.

Jstock12 · Post #19 » by **Jstock12** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:36 pm

That's what I call a homer offer. LOL.

Nemesis21 · Post #20 » by **Nemesis21** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:38 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:
NEM wrote:
A head case who under the right coach may not be a head case. He also puts up 26/10 and has the ability to create, stretch the floor, and defend (ability, not saying he's done so so far).

I honestly think cousins needs a change of scenery from the toxic situation he's currently in, and he will be fine. However, I don't think we are an organization that can provide that stability for him for reasons I won't delve into.

We have Vuc, BB and Ibaka down low, if we are giving up young players, I'd rather go after Hayward/PG13.

Also Cousins has played for like 3 coaches now, none have been able to calm him on the headcase aspect. So what makes Vogel such a good candidate to? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we have Vogel, but I'd pass on Cousins and go after a scorer.

So, you are basically saying we stand pat because there is about a snowballs chance in hell both Hayward and PG13 will ever come to the Magic. Ain't gonna happen.

Maybe not in FA, but you can trade for them.