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Re: Justin Holiday to Knicks - who he? 

Post#161 » by blueNorange » Mon Oct 31, 2016 7:33 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Lance has to go back to being a 3D guy. Take the open 3’s when its there, else swing the ball. Don’t want him trying to make plays and putting the ball on the floor like he has been trying to do. If he can’t hit 3’s then he wont be worth playing.

this thing about lance thomas playing defense needs to stop, because it's not true.
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Re: Justin Holiday to Knicks - who he? 

Post#162 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon Oct 31, 2016 7:48 pm

blueNorange wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Lance has to go back to being a 3D guy. Take the open 3’s when its there, else swing the ball. Don’t want him trying to make plays and putting the ball on the floor like he has been trying to do. If he can’t hit 3’s then he wont be worth playing.

this thing about lance thomas playing defense needs to stop, because it's not true.


You have to give credit when credit is due. Dude played hungry last year and did play some good defense. It was apparent when watching the games and showed up in the stats. Just need him getting back to playing that way.
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Re: Justin Holiday to Knicks - who he? 

Post#163 » by seren » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:51 pm

Isn't he eligible for extension? I am serious. Why are we not talking extension with this guy?
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Re: Justin Holiday to Knicks - who he? 

Post#164 » by GONYK » Tue Nov 1, 2016 12:08 am

seren wrote:Isn't he eligible for extension? I am serious. Why are we not talking extension with this guy?


Probably because

A.) We want more than a 2 game sample size
B.) He's not getting one
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Re: Justin Holiday to Knicks - who he? 

Post#165 » by ctorres » Tue Nov 1, 2016 12:14 am

blueNorange wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Lance has to go back to being a 3D guy. Take the open 3’s when its there, else swing the ball. Don’t want him trying to make plays and putting the ball on the floor like he has been trying to do. If he can’t hit 3’s then he wont be worth playing.


this thing about lance thomas playing defense needs to stop, because it's not true.


Hey bNo!

Do you think lance is completely worthless? Are the Knicks able to get rid of him? Who would you suggest to play in his place?

Hope you've had a great day! :D
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Re: Justin Holiday to Knicks - who he? 

Post#166 » by blueNorange » Tue Nov 1, 2016 12:16 am

ctorres wrote:
blueNorange wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Lance has to go back to being a 3D guy. Take the open 3’s when its there, else swing the ball. Don’t want him trying to make plays and putting the ball on the floor like he has been trying to do. If he can’t hit 3’s then he wont be worth playing.


this thing about lance thomas playing defense needs to stop, because it's not true.


Hey bNo!

Do you think lance is completely worthless? Are the Knicks able to get rid of him? Who would you suggest to play in his place?

Hope you've had a great day! :D

i'd rather give kuz a shot, or give more minutes to holiday.
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Re: Justin Holiday to Knicks - who he? 

Post#167 » by seren » Tue Nov 1, 2016 1:21 am

GONYK wrote:
seren wrote:Isn't he eligible for extension? I am serious. Why are we not talking extension with this guy?


Probably because

A.) We want more than a 2 game sample size
B.) He's not getting one


Of course he is not getting one. It is a matter of principle. Charlie Ward and counting.
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Re: Justin Holiday to Knicks - who he? 

Post#168 » by GONYK » Tue Nov 1, 2016 1:27 am

seren wrote:
GONYK wrote:
seren wrote:Isn't he eligible for extension? I am serious. Why are we not talking extension with this guy?


Probably because

A.) We want more than a 2 game sample size
B.) He's not getting one


Of course he is not getting one. It is a matter of principle. Charlie Ward and counting.


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Holiday is not a Knick draft pick
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Post#169 » by GONYK » Tue Nov 1, 2016 1:37 am

seren wrote:
GONYK wrote:
seren wrote:
Of course he is not getting one. It is a matter of principle. Charlie Ward and counting.


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Holiday is not a Knick draft pick


Doesn't matter. Rookie contract.

I don't think he's on a rookie deal. He's making the minimum.
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Re: RE: Re: Justin Holiday to Knicks - who he? 

Post#170 » by seren » Tue Nov 1, 2016 1:39 am

GONYK wrote:I don't think he's on a rookie deal. He's making the minimum.


Yes. I just noticed. For whatever reason, I thought he was still under rookie deal.

Seem like we don't have anyone we can possibly extend.
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Re: Justin Holiday to Knicks - who he? 

Post#171 » by cayuck » Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:45 am

Great game tonight for this kid both on Defense and Offense. I love that Hornacek rewards his good play with more minutes. The smaller lineup with Rose Lee Holiday Melo KP looked very intimidating on both ends. Big enough and long enough to rebound and defend while all five can shoot, drive, and pass. I do have some hopes that Horny might slide Holiday into the starting lineup.
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Re: Justin Holiday to Knicks - who he? 

Post#172 » by Knicksfan20 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:55 am

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
blueNorange wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Lance has to go back to being a 3D guy. Take the open 3’s when its there, else swing the ball. Don’t want him trying to make plays and putting the ball on the floor like he has been trying to do. If he can’t hit 3’s then he wont be worth playing.

this thing about lance thomas playing defense needs to stop, because it's not true.


You have to give credit when credit is due. Dude played hungry last year and did play some good defense. It was apparent when watching the games and showed up in the stats. Just need him getting back to playing that way.


He did play some decent man to man defense last season. OUtside of that....He provided absolutely nothing... He had a few games where he put up 12 points... 16 points... 14 points...22 points...But was not a consistent scorer and was on a minimum contract so those numbers were huge bonuses when they happened....

The truth of the matter is....Lance is not good at anything...He cant create for himself, he cant create for others or handle the basketball, He is not a shooter (shooting 40% and only making .8 3's a game isn't all that impressive), He doesn't rebound the ball, Doesn't block shots, doesn't get steals or cause turnovers, doesn't get any deflections, cant guard the post, cant protect the rim when playing the 4 spot, isn't athletic for the 3-4 position...

But what he is very good at...and this is not a joke...Very good at playing out of control, very good at dribbling the ball off his feet, very good at dribbling into traffic and taking a wild shot, very good at cross court passes (as in... not a good thing), very good at stepping on lines (3pt line or out of bounds line), very good at turning the ball over in general, very good and being completely lost on offense, very good at taking bad shots or forcing shots early in the shot clock....Those are the things he is good at...


So hes bad at things he should be good at.... and good at things you don't want your players to be good at...

Lance is not a good NBA player. He is a player who is below average in every aspect in basketball on the NBA level.
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Re: Justin Holiday to Knicks - who he? 

Post#173 » by NYKAL » Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:29 pm

haven't had anything but praise for this guy. He's THE gem of the trade with Chicago and
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Re: Justin Holiday to Knicks - who he? 

Post#174 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:52 pm

who he? dat dude. dat bench. dat defense. dat jumper.
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Re: Justin Holiday to Knicks - who he? 

Post#175 » by reub » Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:00 pm

He was a plus THIRTY last night in only 25 minutes!
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Re: Justin Holiday to Knicks - who he? 

Post#176 » by cayuck » Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:18 pm

Of all the guys on the bench Holiday has been the most unexpected gem, Would really like to see Horny start him against some smaller teams.

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