Are the Rams handling Jared Goff situation all wrong?

[OnceUponADime]

I just don't get it. Keenum is one of the worst QBs in all of football. Why not give the guy that they gave up so many draft picks for in Goff a chance? He can't possibly be that bad.

I wonder if it hurts Goff's confidence knowing that his own coaching staff doesn't think he's better than a scrub like Keenum.

[Mich3006]

1.) Jeff Fisher is one of the worst coaches in the league
2.) If Goff would be NFL-ready, he´d get at least some snaps. I really doubt he´s ready though.

[Otis Driftwood]

1.) Jeff Fisher is one of the worst coaches in the league
2.) If Goff would be NFL-ready, he´d get at least some snaps. I really doubt he´s ready though.

And if he's not ready there's no sense throwing him out there just to appease the leering press and fandom crickets. Better for him to learn and get ready for next season.

[bwgood77]

1.) Jeff Fisher is one of the worst coaches in the league
2.) If Goff would be NFL-ready, he´d get at least some snaps. I really doubt he´s ready though.

And if he's not ready there's no sense throwing him out there just to appease the leering press and fandom crickets. Better for him to learn and get ready for next season.

I agree. I think getting thrown in there too early can be a very bad thing for the psyche. Worse than sitting for a year. I know they were sitting behind top some of the top NFL QBs of all time, but it didn't hurt Rodgers or Rivers to sit. Or Brady, for that matter. You could probably name a ton of others. Warner was behind Tony Banks one year, and then was supposed to be behind a young Trent Green the next, until he went down.

[RavenMad31]

1.) Jeff Fisher is one of the worst coaches in the league
2.) If Goff would be NFL-ready, he´d get at least some snaps. I really doubt he´s ready though.

Jeff Fisher does not draft, develop or scheme the offensive side of the ball worth a crap. It's possible that a weak draft pick and inept coach have come together to create this situation. None of us see what's happening at Rams practice, so Goff could very well just be even worse than Keenum, in which case it'd be dumb on two levels for them to be playing him.

[bluejerseyjinx]

I'm not a Fisher fan, but I say yes. there o_line still sucks and their receivers can't catch a ball. Why ruin the kid when he isn't ready and from what I see, the Rams are not ready. Except when they the SeaHawks, lol.

[Otis Driftwood]

1.) Jeff Fisher is one of the worst coaches in the league
2.) If Goff would be NFL-ready, he´d get at least some snaps. I really doubt he´s ready though.

And if he's not ready there's no sense throwing him out there just to appease the leering press and fandom crickets. Better for him to learn and get ready for next season.

I agree. I think getting thrown in there too early can be a very bad thing for the psyche. Worse than sitting for a year. I know they were sitting behind top some of the top NFL QBs of all time, but it didn't hurt Rodgers or Rivers to sit. Or Brady, for that matter. You could probably name a ton of others. Warner was behind Tony Banks on year, and then was supposed to be behind a young Trent Green the next, until he went down.

On the other hand... Blaine Gabbert. Jake Locker. Who knows if they would have been good or not had they not been thrown to the wolves as rookies.

[OnceUponADime]

1.) Jeff Fisher is one of the worst coaches in the league
2.) If Goff would be NFL-ready, he´d get at least some snaps. I really doubt he´s ready though.

And if he's not ready there's no sense throwing him out there just to appease the leering press and fandom crickets. Better for him to learn and get ready for next season.

My thing is that if he's not NFL ready then why draft him so high and give up so much more him?

Sure QBs like Brady, Rivers, Rodgers etc all sat for a season or two before starting but they all sat behind HOF QBs not Case Keenan type QB.

Rookie Brady, rookie Rivers and rookie Rodgers would have all started over someone as awful as Case Keemun without a doubt.

There aren't many great QBs drafted high who sat behind scrubs before playing and being great.

[atlantabbq99]

When Matt Ryan was a rookie, the Falcons threw him out their on day one, and he started every game his rookie year. But the Falcons gave him very simple assignments his first year and didn't ask him to do much, because they just pounded the ball with Michael Turner at RB. So most of the game, Ryan just had to hand off and make a few short yardage throws. Just like what Dallas is doing with Dak Prescott now.

Rams could do the same with Goff and Gurly. Pound it with Gurly and just have Goff make some short yardage throws. Gurly might not be able to carry the team 100 yards with that OLine but it helps their future prospects grow.

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[Otis Driftwood]

1.) Jeff Fisher is one of the worst coaches in the league
2.) If Goff would be NFL-ready, he´d get at least some snaps. I really doubt he´s ready though.

And if he's not ready there's no sense throwing him out there just to appease the leering press and fandom crickets. Better for him to learn and get ready for next season.

My thing is that if he's not NFL ready then why draft him so high and give up so much more him?

Sure QBs like Brady, Rivers, Rodgers etc all sat for a season or two before starting but they all sat behind HOF QBs not Case Keenan type QB.

Rookie Brady, rookie Rivers and rookie Rodgers would have all started over someone as awful as Case Keemun without a doubt.

There aren't many great QBs drafted high who sat behind scrubs before playing and being great.

Maybe he shouldn't have been drafted that high then. Wouldn't be the first time a NFL team made that mistake.

Which is one of my pet peeves as a fan. Teams taking a QB just because they need a QB instead of taking the best player and not reaching. Go back to the 1994 draft. Heath Shuler was taken third and Trent Dilfer sixth. Should either of those guys have been taken that high? No. But the Redskins and Bucs both needed a QB. They were taken... they were ran out there as starters... and both failed miserably. Both did alright for themselves outside of football and Ray Lewis won Dilfer a ring but you can't miss on picks that high in the draft without reprecussions. And - never forget the Raiders took Jamarcus Russell #1 in 2007 and played him immediately. I haven't. Set the Raiders back years.

I say let the kid sit. If he's not ready, he's not ready.

[Otis Driftwood]

From SI's NFL Notebook. Good points worth pondering...

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/11/10/kansas-city-chiefs-rebuild-nfl-notebook

Rams waiting on more than Goff. We can get this piece of business out of the way first - the Rams knew what they were getting themselves into when they bought big on Jared Goff in April. At Cal, Goff ran an offense heavy on one-word calls and tempo, and light on ever making the quarterback go past his second read - if you see this, go here; if you see that, go there - or figuring what the defense was throwing at him. The learning curve was going to be steep regardless. But the Rams figured they’d at least have Todd Gurley rolling to help whoever was under center. That, as it turns out, was a bad assumption. And it’s what could keep the No. 1 overall pick off the field.

Could Jeff Fisher throw Goff in there now, and have a functional quarterback? Sure. He could. But that doesn’t mean the Rams should throw him out there. "The best friends of a young quarterback are a running game and a great tight end, and we don’t have either right now," said one team source. "The run game’s not working, so other than him gaining experience, and it might be bad experience, how are we going to make him better? At least if we get out of this thing and he doesn’t have to play through it, the verbiage and terminology aren’t brand new, he can step in and hit the ground running." Last week, the Panthers played their safeties within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage at points, basically daring the Rams to put the game on Case Keenum’s shoulders. And the Rams, to some degree, have invited all that with heavy sets, tight line splits, and a fairly basic run scheme (leading to some internal questions about the readiness of coordinator Rob Boras for the job, and the future of line coach Paul Boudreau). Add it up, and your explanation is right there. Goff might be able to help the 2016 Rams. But when he was drafted, that had to be viewed as a 15-year decision. So on this one, at least, giving the individual player the best chance possible at long-term success takes priority.

[OnceUponADime]

Looks like my thread served as a wake up call for Jeff Fisher

[Mich3006]

1.) Jeff Fisher is one of the worst coaches in the league
2.) If Goff would be NFL-ready, he´d get at least some snaps. I really doubt he´s ready though.

And if he's not ready there's no sense throwing him out there just to appease the leering press and fandom crickets. Better for him to learn and get ready for next season.

It´ll be interesting to see how the Jets handle their QB situation next offseason: Will they go for another QB or will they go with Hackenberg... (Won´t be Fitz I guess )

[Otis Driftwood]

1.) Jeff Fisher is one of the worst coaches in the league
2.) If Goff would be NFL-ready, he´d get at least some snaps. I really doubt he´s ready though.

And if he's not ready there's no sense throwing him out there just to appease the leering press and fandom crickets. Better for him to learn and get ready for next season.

It´ll be interesting to see how the Jets handle their QB situation next offseason: Will they go for another QB or will they go with Hackenberg... (Won´t be Fitz I guess )

No way they bring Fitz back. And I honestly don't see how he would even be interested in going back although he still seems to be of the mindset that he's a starter. He's not. And I'm betting any team needing a QB thinks the same. He's not.

I know a couple of PSU fans who thought Hack got way too full of himself in his time there. The kid sure has the tools. Just wonder if he has the maturity. I never saw Petty being a pro even with his success down here. I didn't watch much of the Rams game at all so 'm not sure what he contributed last Sunday.

[bleu]

Looks like my thread served as a wake up call for Jeff Fisher

You know, I hear that Jeff Fisher is a regular reader of this board