So how about Joel Embiid

[richboy]

Not sure how much credit I'm giving hinkie for embiid. He fell to them because he was injured. They did a red shirt with Noel. They were taking a risk with his injury but they were not passing on that level talent. The only reason they had a shot to get him was that injury. If he had traded up that would be something.


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[TheProdigy]

KAT is taking Embiid to school tonight.

[CoreyGallagher]

KAT is taking Embiid to school tonight.

I know he got him a few times, but I wonder what he actually shot when he was defended by Embiid.

Embiid didn't have his best performance or much help, but did still have a double double and only 2 turnovers in 22 minutes.

[PennSports]

KAT is taking Embiid to school tonight.

I know he got him a few times, but I wonder what he actually shot when he was defended by Embiid.

Embiid didn't have his best performance or much help, but did still have a double double and only 2 turnovers in 22 minutes.

Embiid only guarded KAT on 3 possessions and gave up two hoops. The other one he forced KAT to go a little out of control, not sure if they counted it as a block or a turnover. Would have liked to see Brown run out Okafor and Embiid because the Wolves were playing two bigs and KAT just kept abusing Saric and Ilyasova in the post. Also wanted to see someone take it to Towns on the other end because he seemed to actively avoid guarding either of them. He didnt guard them a single time in the whole game, that is crazy. Have to force him down low and try to get him in foul trouble, smh at Brown. I dont care about minutes restrictions, we were gonna lose anyway so try Jah at the 4 for a little bit.

[dorkestra]

KAT is taking Embiid to school tonight.

If by Embiid you mean Ilyasova, yeah it was expected. Brown should have let us all see the match up we wanted. Not sure why he didn't. Not happy though.

[TheProdigy]

KAT is taking Embiid to school tonight.

If by Embiid you mean Ilyasova, yeah it was expected. Brown should have let us all see the match up we wanted. Not sure why he didn't. Not happy though.

[Blackfyre]

KAT is taking Embiid to school tonight.

If by Embiid you mean Ilyasova, yeah it was expected. Brown should have let us all see the match up we wanted. Not sure why he didn't. Not happy though.

Nasty. Something about this dunk reminds me of KG.

[trickshot]

KAT has a skillset that can get the better of anyone. For me that doesn't actually change my view of taking Embiid over him in the long term

[The_Hater]

Not sure how much credit I'm giving hinkie for embiid. He fell to them because he was injured. They did a red shirt with Noel. They were taking a risk with his injury but they were not passing on that level talent. The only reason they had a shot to get him was that injury. If he had traded up that would be something.


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For 2 years people have been talking about what a mistake Hinkie made taking Embiid, I remember an entire thread about it just last season, and right when Embiid finally starts to pay off you don't want to give Hinkie any credit?

On top of making the right pick instead of a more impatient pick, which many GM's wouldn't have done, it was Hinkie's tanking/rebuilding strategy that put the sixers in position to draft him in the first place. And he didn't panic by trading down or trading Embiid away for mor instant gratification which many GM's in the same position also would have done.

[lorak]

KAT is taking Embiid to school tonight.

If by Embiid you mean Ilyasova, yeah it was expected. Brown should have let us all see the match up we wanted. Not sure why he didn't. Not happy though.

That's travel both times - he moves his pivot foot before he starts dribble.

[blazeyo]

If by Embiid you mean Ilyasova, yeah it was expected. Brown should have let us all see the match up we wanted. Not sure why he didn't. Not happy though.

That's travel both times - he moves his pivot foot before he starts dribble.

Travel

[The_Hater]

That's travel both times - he moves his pivot foot before he starts dribble.

By the book, sure, but those are only travels in reality if NBA refs want to start blowing the whistle for travelling on 75% of possessions.

[lorak]

That's travel both times - he moves his pivot foot before he starts dribble.

By the book, sure, but those are only travels in reality if NBA refs want to start blowing the whistle for travelling on 75% of possessions.

I doubt it's 75%, I think it's much lower, but no matter what % of plays it is, they should call it because that's what rules say.

[lorak]

KAT is taking Embiid to school tonight.

I know he got him a few times, but I wonder what he actually shot when he was defended by Embiid.

3/5 FG, but that two FGM in 4th should be called a travel. Everything is here:

Watch on YouTube

[The_Hater]

That's travel both times - he moves his pivot foot before he starts dribble.

By the book, sure, but those are only travels in reality if NBA refs want to start blowing the whistle for travelling on 75% of possessions.

I doubt it's 75%, I think it's much lower, but no matter what % of plays it is, they should call it because that's what rules say.

The rule book also says that you can't touch players with you hands on defense and that any minor contact is a foul. Might as well follow the rule book to the letter of the law in order to make NBA games unwatchable 5 hour whistle-feats until defense becomes obsolete.

Officials are given a level of discretion for a very good reason.

[richboy]

Not sure how much credit I'm giving hinkie for embiid. He fell to them because he was injured. They did a red shirt with Noel. They were taking a risk with his injury but they were not passing on that level talent. The only reason they had a shot to get him was that injury. If he had traded up that would be something.


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For 2 years people have been talking about what a mistake Hinkie made taking Embiid, I remember an entire thread about it just last season, and right when Embiid finally starts to pay off you don't want to give Hinkie any credit?

On top of making the right pick instead of a more impatient pick, which many GM's wouldn't have done, it was Hinkie's tanking/rebuilding strategy that put the sixers in position to draft him in the first place. And he didn't panic by trading down or trading Embiid away for mor instant gratification which many GM's in the same position also would have done.

Your talking with rabbit ears about people. Who are these people? Yes I'm sure cynical people said it was a bad move. I know many said it was the only move.

Why should I give Hinkie credit when all his other picks have been questionable if not bad? Again at the time Embiid was only to miss 1 year. They knew that and still drafted NN. They knew they wouldn't see Saric for years. Yet somehow if he can't get Embiid right away he going to go for a quick fix. Why would anyone think they would pass on one of the most talented bigs to enter the league who still was expected to be back.

Much of this criticism around Hinkie is all his moves. Your just focused on Embiid. Which was the easiest movie he did. I'll be more impressed if they took KP. If they had drafted a Giannis Saric has been ok but I'm not seeing a star that they needed to wait years for. Phili has been bad for years and watching what talent they have to this point is still embarrassing.

Most GMs are under the pressure of ownership to make moves that provide instant gratification. Phili approach was very unique and if anything ownership would get the credit for allowing the move.

[The_Hater]

Not sure how much credit I'm giving hinkie for embiid. He fell to them because he was injured. They did a red shirt with Noel. They were taking a risk with his injury but they were not passing on that level talent. The only reason they had a shot to get him was that injury. If he had traded up that would be something.


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For 2 years people have been talking about what a mistake Hinkie made taking Embiid, I remember an entire thread about it just last season, and right when Embiid finally starts to pay off you don't want to give Hinkie any credit?

On top of making the right pick instead of a more impatient pick, which many GM's wouldn't have done, it was Hinkie's tanking/rebuilding strategy that put the sixers in position to draft him in the first place. And he didn't panic by trading down or trading Embiid away for mor instant gratification which many GM's in the same position also would have done.

Your talking with rabbit ears about people. Who are these people? Yes I'm sure cynical people said it was a bad move. I know many said it was the only move.

Why should I give Hinkie credit when all his other picks have been questionable if not bad? Again at the time Embiid was only to miss 1 year. They knew that and still drafted NN. They knew they wouldn't see Saric for years. Yet somehow if he can't get Embiid right away he going to go for a quick fix. Why would anyone think they would pass on one of the most talented bigs to enter the league who still was expected to be back.

Much of this criticism around Hinkie is all his moves. Your just focused on Embiid. Which was the easiest movie he did. I'll be more impressed if they took KP. If they had drafted a Giannis Saric has been ok but I'm not seeing a star that they needed to wait years for. Phili has been bad for years and watching what talent they have to this point is still embarrassing.

Most GMs are under the pressure of ownership to make moves that provide instant gratification. Phili approach was very unique and if anything ownership would get the credit for allowing the move.

All good points. You're right that most people thought Embiid was the correct pick on draft night but I still saw a lot of 2nd guessing after JE missed his 2nd straight season.

Hinkie had a strategy to tank to the bottom to get a couple of superstars. Hinkie is also smart enough to know that nobody bats 1,000 in the draft. But his strategy might have worked with Embiid and Simmons, even if both picks fell into his lap.

[djc373]

Not sure how much credit I'm giving hinkie for embiid. He fell to them because he was injured. They did a red shirt with Noel. They were taking a risk with his injury but they were not passing on that level talent. The only reason they had a shot to get him was that injury. If he had traded up that would be something.


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For 2 years people have been talking about what a mistake Hinkie made taking Embiid, I remember an entire thread about it just last season, and right when Embiid finally starts to pay off you don't want to give Hinkie any credit?

On top of making the right pick instead of a more impatient pick, which many GM's wouldn't have done, it was Hinkie's tanking/rebuilding strategy that put the sixers in position to draft him in the first place. And he didn't panic by trading down or trading Embiid away for mor instant gratification which many GM's in the same position also would have done.

Your talking with rabbit ears about people. Who are these people? Yes I'm sure cynical people said it was a bad move. I know many said it was the only move.

Why should I give Hinkie credit when all his other picks have been questionable if not bad? Again at the time Embiid was only to miss 1 year. They knew that and still drafted NN. They knew they wouldn't see Saric for years. Yet somehow if he can't get Embiid right away he going to go for a quick fix. Why would anyone think they would pass on one of the most talented bigs to enter the league who still was expected to be back.

Much of this criticism around Hinkie is all his moves. Your just focused on Embiid. Which was the easiest movie he did. I'll be more impressed if they took KP. If they had drafted a Giannis Saric has been ok but I'm not seeing a star that they needed to wait years for. Phili has been bad for years and watching what talent they have to this point is still embarrassing.

Most GMs are under the pressure of ownership to make moves that provide instant gratification. Phili approach was very unique and if anything ownership would get the credit for allowing the move.

Nerlens was drafted before Embiid...

Hinkie was amazing in terms of the deals he made taking advantage of more shortsighted front offices. Tanking got the sixers embiid okafor and simmons. Hinkie got them nerlens, saric, the 2017 lakers pick, 2017 swap rights with sacramento, and unprotected 2018 sacramento first round pick. Basically for jrue holiday and michael carter williams. And he also left the sixers with insane cap room.

Respect.

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[spursscott]

For 2 years people have been talking about what a mistake Hinkie made taking Embiid, I remember an entire thread about it just last season, and right when Embiid finally starts to pay off you don't want to give Hinkie any credit?

On top of making the right pick instead of a more impatient pick, which many GM's wouldn't have done, it was Hinkie's tanking/rebuilding strategy that put the sixers in position to draft him in the first place. And he didn't panic by trading down or trading Embiid away for mor instant gratification which many GM's in the same position also would have done.

Your talking with rabbit ears about people. Who are these people? Yes I'm sure cynical people said it was a bad move. I know many said it was the only move.

Why should I give Hinkie credit when all his other picks have been questionable if not bad? Again at the time Embiid was only to miss 1 year. They knew that and still drafted NN. They knew they wouldn't see Saric for years. Yet somehow if he can't get Embiid right away he going to go for a quick fix. Why would anyone think they would pass on one of the most talented bigs to enter the league who still was expected to be back.

Much of this criticism around Hinkie is all his moves. Your just focused on Embiid. Which was the easiest movie he did. I'll be more impressed if they took KP. If they had drafted a Giannis Saric has been ok but I'm not seeing a star that they needed to wait years for. Phili has been bad for years and watching what talent they have to this point is still embarrassing.

Most GMs are under the pressure of ownership to make moves that provide instant gratification. Phili approach was very unique and if anything ownership would get the credit for allowing the move.

Nerlens was drafted before Embiid...

Hinkie was amazing in terms of the deals he made taking advantage of more shortsighted front offices. Tanking got the sixers embiid okafor and simmons. Hinkie got them nerlens, saric, the 2017 lakers pick, 2017 swap rights with sacramento, and unprotected 2018 sacramento first round pick. Basically for jrue holiday and michael carter williams. And he also left the sixers with insane cap room.

Respect.

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You give way to much credit to a guy who couldnt bring together talent and in 10 years will be looked at as one of the worst GMs we have ever seen. Its hilarious that years in to his rebuild the team is still horrible but some how this guy was a Genious for drafting a few guys in obvious spots.

[Hipster Doofus]

These two (Embiid vs. KAT) will be fun to watch for the next decade. And so will Simmons vs. Wiggins.