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Post#2 » by batsmasher » Fri Nov 18, 2016 9:27 am

I just finished watching BK's highlight video and saw a few people talking about Bender's kick out to BK in the corner.

So I checked NBA.com's stats and it's pretty bleak. We're 4th last in catch and shoot FGA per game, and we're last in EFG% from those shots.

How do we fix that? For one, I think we are in dire need of a post presence, which is why I'm not against trading for a guy like Vucevic. Secondly (I know I say this a lot), gimme some plays for our shooters to catch and shoot! Most of our offense initiation for our shooters starts with the ball in their hands.
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Post#3 » by LacosteM » Fri Nov 18, 2016 9:50 am

20% of Chriss's total FGA's were blocked.

When Brandon Knight is on the court with Barbosa and Bender (95 mins), his TS% is 60.2%.

Tyson Chandler is 4th in the league in screen assists.

Suns second most played lineup consisting of Bledsoe/Booker/Chriss/Len/Warren is posting a dreadful NetRtg of -15.3 .

Jared Dudley is shooting 47.5% on c&s 3's.

Len is shooting 29% outside 5+ feet.

TJ is 7th in league in steals.

13 of 16 PJ Tucker's 3FGA were open&wide open catch&shoot 3's. He's 1-13 on them.

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Post#4 » by batsmasher » Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:51 pm

LacosteM wrote:Suns second most played lineup consisting of Bledsoe/Booker/Chriss/Len/Warren is posting a dreadful NetRtg of -15.3 .

This makes me die on the inside the most because I know Earl is completely oblivious to the fact.

Then again, are any coaches in the NBA that responsive to advanced stats? Malone couldn't care less about Jokic. Orlando's whole team is death according to advanced stats. Boogie is still being forced to play some 4 etc etc.
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Post#5 » by kennydorglas » Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:43 pm

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LacosteM wrote:Suns second most played lineup consisting of Bledsoe/Booker/Chriss/Len/Warren is posting a dreadful NetRtg of -15.3 .

This makes me die on the inside the most because I know Earl is completely oblivious to the fact.

Then again, are any coaches in the NBA that responsive to advanced stats? Malone couldn't care less about Jokic. Orlando's whole team is death according to advanced stats. Boogie is still being forced to play some 4 etc etc.


I guess only Spoelstra and maybe Fitzdale (same coaching tree).
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Post#6 » by MathiasPW » Fri Nov 18, 2016 5:18 pm

It's also a matter of sample size. Ours is still to small to be considered definitive, and coaches will tend to take longer to adjust because they have other excuses to make up for the bad stat.

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Post#7 » by NTB » Fri Nov 18, 2016 5:46 pm

MathiasPW wrote:It's also a matter of sample size. Ours is still to small to be considered definitive, and coaches will tend to take longer to adjust because they have other excuses to make up for the bad stat.

Random Stat: 100% of all basketball players who drink water eventually die.


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Post#8 » by bwgood77 » Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:11 pm

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Post#9 » by kennydorglas » Fri Nov 18, 2016 8:59 pm

First RPM is out

http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM

Duds +1.08
Warren +0.59
Chandler +0.37
Bled +0.02
Len -0.62
Tucker -1.17
Bender -1.44
Book -1.9
Barbosa -2.08
Chriss -2.86
Knight -4.16
Ulis -4.24
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Post#12 » by batsmasher » Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:10 pm

Having a look at lineups with PJ in them. Our lineups with him playing with our bench are among the best.

Our lineups with him playing with starters are our worst.

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Post#13 » by LacosteM » Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:18 am

RPM Update:

Dudley +1.95
Warren +0.26
Chandler +0.08
Bledsoe -0.54
Len -0.95
Tucker -1.03
Barbosa -1.56
Bender -1.57
Booker -1.67
Ullis -2.47
Chriss -3.55 (dead last on pf column)
Knight -3.60
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That's really strange considering lower left quadrant would be good and Miami is so far ahead of everyone (Whiteside obviously for rim protection) and we are right there with the Clips. I understand the fg% at rim considering we have two 7 foot centers who are decent at blocking, and then Bledsoe gets occasional blocks, as well as Chriss in his limited minutes. But it's not like we have great perimeter defense so the 3 pt thing is kind of strange.
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Post#17 » by batsmasher » Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:45 am

Was looking for fantasy purposes but Greg Monroe's on/off NetRtg this season is whack:

On: 9.5
Off: -4.5

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Post#20 » by LacosteM » Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:41 am

Out of 27 games he played so far, Knight had a negative +/- in 21 of them.

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