Where is Jahlil Okafor?

[Unbreakable99]

There are 29 other GMs in the league. There has to be a sucker to take Okafor off our hands. Can there please be a dumb GM like Billy King who values Okafor? Why can't the Wizards be dumb enough to trade Porter for Okafor? We need Okafor out of here quickly. That's why I don't buy that positive talk from Thibs about how good Okafor is. BC needs to find a sucker ASAP. Can we get someone on the level of a Smart or Porter for Okafor? We need to get lucky. We need to trade Okafor and make amends with Noel. Noel is a very good player. He needs to be our backup Center. The next game Okafor looks good he needs to be traded the next day with the quickness. Where are all the stupid GMs? We need you.

I would take any of Jared Dudley, Wilson Chandler, Otto Porter, Maurice Harkless, Rudy Gay, DeMare Carroll etc. to immediately insert as the starting small forward of this team.

Maybe with a combination of picks, just to be safe

There is only one player on your list that I would target. Harkless isn't good. I wouldn't trade anything for him. Dudley and Chandler would be helpful players, but at this stage in their careers, you don't trade young players to get them. You sign those kind of guys in the off-season. Rudy Gay is good, but he is asking to be traded away from the Kings and I don't think he would think the 76ers are any better situation. If DeMare Carroll is healthy, I'd take him, but I don't think the Raptors would trade him to the 76ers if he was healthy, because they would need him in the playoffs to guard Lebron James. Otto Porter is only player on your list that is both good, and attainable in a trade for Okafor.

I can't fathom the Wizards ownership will want to pay Porter what he will demand, after paying Beal his ridiculous contract. Theyre not making the playoffs. I can't imagine they would lock themselves into this roster for the next few years like that.

Many people didn't think the Blazers would give all that money to McCollum and Turner and Crabbe but they did. I actually think the Wizards would give Porter all that money. Why? Because they will ask themselves what's the alternative. They will get worse if they let Porter go for nothing.

[Hipster Doofus]

All this makes me want to play 2K17 on PS4 and insert Rudy Gay at SF or something and have a lineup of Bayless, Henderson, Gay, Ilyasova, Embiieast.

Great size, good perimeter defense, good shooting

[LloydFree]

I would take any of Jared Dudley, Wilson Chandler, Otto Porter, Maurice Harkless, Rudy Gay, DeMare Carroll etc. to immediately insert as the starting small forward of this team.

Maybe with a combination of picks, just to be safe

There is only one player on your list that I would target. Harkless isn't good. I wouldn't trade anything for him. Dudley and Chandler would be helpful players, but at this stage in their careers, you don't trade young players to get them. You sign those kind of guys in the off-season. Rudy Gay is good, but he is asking to be traded away from the Kings and I don't think he would think the 76ers are any better situation. If DeMare Carroll is healthy, I'd take him, but I don't think the Raptors would trade him to the 76ers if he was healthy, because they would need him in the playoffs to guard Lebron James. Otto Porter is only player on your list that is both good, and attainable in a trade for Okafor.

I can't fathom the Wizards ownership will want to pay Porter what he will demand, after paying Beal his ridiculous contract. Theyre not making the playoffs. I can't imagine they would lock themselves into this roster for the next few years like that.

Many people didn't think the Blazers would give all that money to McCollum and Turner and Crabbe but they did. I actually think the Wizards would give Porter all that money. Why? Because they will ask themselves what's the alternative. They will get worse if they let Porter go for nothing.

The Wizards are in a different position than Portland last year. The Wizards are a sinking ship. The Wizards have a situation where they can choose to defer the Porter extension decision. They can move Porter for Okafor, to get two more years control. They can move Gortat (who just insulted his teammates) to a contender for a positive asset. They can ride it out with Oubre at SF. They can start a mini re-build without upsetting much of what they are already doing. Okafor has a big enough name that their fans would go for that.

The problem is the 76er fanbase still deluding themselves into thinking Okafor is more valuable than the reality. I have no doubt that Okafor can be moved for equal value, but the team probably won't move him because they'll never get the value that some in the fanbase and local media, believe they should get.

[Mik317]

All this makes me want to play 2K17 on PS4 and insert Rudy Gay at SF or something and have a lineup of Bayless, Henderson, Gay, Ilyasova, Embiieast.

Great size, good perimeter defense, good shooting

2k Rudy Gay is Jordan status tho.

[Hipster Doofus]

Heck, I would do Okafor to the Celtics for Avery Bradley right now. Dude is Westbrook-lite. 18 ppg and 9 rpg (which is insane for a 6'2" guard). Fast and strong and only 26 years old, not even fully in his prime yet.

If we keep waiting and choosing youthful age instead real NBA players with the hope that they'll grow as we envision them to and still sign with us in their prime, we ain't going nowhere. We need a mix of the two, youth and veterans. Pick the youth that you want to keep (Embiid, Saric, Simmons, Noel, Stauskas) and everyone else can be NBA veterans that we can shuffle in and out every 2-3 years until the youth reaches their prime.

[Unbreakable99]

Heck, I would do Okafor to the Celtics for Avery Bradley right now. Dude is Westbrook-lite. 18 ppg and 9 rpg (which is insane for a 6'2" guard). Fast and strong and only 26 years old, not even fully in his prime yet.

If we keep waiting and choosing youthful age instead real NBA players with the hope that they'll grow as we envision them to and still sign with us in their prime, we ain't going nowhere. We need a mix of the two, youth and veterans. Pick the youth that you want to keep (Embiid, Saric, Simmons, Noel, Stauskas) and everyone else can be NBA veterans that we can shuffle in and out every 2-3 years until the youth reaches their prime.

Every Sixer fan would do that deal. Ainge is no dummy though. No way he does that. He would laugh at BC then hang up the phone.

[Hipster Doofus]

Heck, I would do Okafor to the Celtics for Avery Bradley right now. Dude is Westbrook-lite. 18 ppg and 9 rpg (which is insane for a 6'2" guard). Fast and strong and only 26 years old, not even fully in his prime yet.

If we keep waiting and choosing youthful age instead real NBA players with the hope that they'll grow as we envision them to and still sign with us in their prime, we ain't going nowhere. We need a mix of the two, youth and veterans. Pick the youth that you want to keep (Embiid, Saric, Simmons, Noel, Stauskas) and everyone else can be NBA veterans that we can shuffle in and out every 2-3 years until the youth reaches their prime.

Every Sixer fan would do that deal. Ainge is no dummy though. No way he does that. He would laugh at BC then hang up the phone.

We should at least inquire I think, even if more players are involved. The Celtics are struggling right now and looking for answers. Maybe it's a good time to try and pull the trigger on something.

[Unbreakable99]

Heck, I would do Okafor to the Celtics for Avery Bradley right now. Dude is Westbrook-lite. 18 ppg and 9 rpg (which is insane for a 6'2" guard). Fast and strong and only 26 years old, not even fully in his prime yet.

If we keep waiting and choosing youthful age instead real NBA players with the hope that they'll grow as we envision them to and still sign with us in their prime, we ain't going nowhere. We need a mix of the two, youth and veterans. Pick the youth that you want to keep (Embiid, Saric, Simmons, Noel, Stauskas) and everyone else can be NBA veterans that we can shuffle in and out every 2-3 years until the youth reaches their prime.

Every Sixer fan would do that deal. Ainge is no dummy though. No way he does that. He would laugh at BC then hang up the phone.

We should at least inquire I think, even if more players are involved. The Celtics are struggling right now and looking for answers. Maybe it's a good time to try and pull the trigger on something.

I'd love that deal but it has a less than 0% chance of happening. Besides, Ainge only does deals where he clearly wins the trade and fleeces someone. Right off the bat he loses the trade in a straight player swap of Bradley for Okafor. He would want our 2017 pick. If we threw that in there he might think about it and even then that might not be enough of a fleece for him to do it. And no way we would give him our 2017 pick.

[LloydFree]

Heck, I would do Okafor to the Celtics for Avery Bradley right now. Dude is Westbrook-lite. 18 ppg and 9 rpg (which is insane for a 6'2" guard). Fast and strong and only 26 years old, not even fully in his prime yet.

If we keep waiting and choosing youthful age instead real NBA players with the hope that they'll grow as we envision them to and still sign with us in their prime, we ain't going nowhere. We need a mix of the two, youth and veterans. Pick the youth that you want to keep (Embiid, Saric, Simmons, Noel, Stauskas) and everyone else can be NBA veterans that we can shuffle in and out every 2-3 years until the youth reaches their prime.

I would too, but I don't think Colangelo would do it. It would be received negatively by the casual fanbase, who don't know Avery Bradley is better than Okafor.

[rzzzzz]

last night the Wolves were out to intimidate Jo, and weren't too concerned about him getting hurt in the process (sic). ain't it time to be playing Jo and Jah together and present a physical front line instead of taking a beating? also, sick of seeing them both standing near the rim, wide open, while our back court passing around the perimeter for clankers.

seriously, we got some real deployment problems to attend to before pointing fingers at what talent we got.

[Unbreakable99]

The ESPN defensive RPM stats came out and I'm surprised Okafor is only 9 slots back from Embiid. Embiid comes in at 31 and Okafor at 40. And surprisingly Towns comes in in 64 out of 65. How on earth is Okafor analytically better than Towns in defensive RPM? We use stats to rip Okafor but this makes no sense. How is this even remotely possible that Okafor is close to Embiid and much better than Towns in this category? Check it out.

http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/DRPM/position/9

[TTP]

The ESPN defensive RPM stats came out and I'm surprised Okafor is only 9 slots back from Embiid. Embiid comes in at 21 and Okafor at 40. And surprisingly Towns comes in in 64 out of 65. How on earth is Okafor analytically better than Towns in defensive RPM? We use stats to rip Okafor but this makes no sense. How is this even remotely possible that Okafor is close to Embiid and much better than Towns in this category? Check it out.

http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/DRPM/position/9

Wolves defense is 16.4 points better when he's off the court.

[Unbreakable99]

The ESPN defensive RPM stats came out and I'm surprised Okafor is only 9 slots back from Embiid. Embiid comes in at 21 and Okafor at 40. And surprisingly Towns comes in in 64 out of 65. How on earth is Okafor analytically better than Towns in defensive RPM? We use stats to rip Okafor but this makes no sense. How is this even remotely possible that Okafor is close to Embiid and much better than Towns in this category? Check it out.

http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/DRPM/position/9

Wolves defense is 16.4 points better when he's off the court.

But it still doesn't make sense. Towns is a beast. He's a two way player. He is good on offense and defense. How are the Wolves better on D when he's on the bench. This must be one of those stats where the numbers don't meet the eye test. I don't think any coach would want Towns on the bench when they need a stop on defense. I remember last year when Hassan Whiteside had the same issue for a while when the team was better on defense when he was on the bench. I think it finally got better later on and they were better on D with him on the court.

Going back to Okafor we can at least compare him to Embiid better since both play the same position with the same players. How is Okafor even close to Embiid statwise in DRPM? None of this makes any sense. Stats help when they meet the eye test. The eye test tells me Embiid is a far superior player on both sides of the ball than Okafor. The eye test tells me Towns is a much superior player than Okafor on both sides of the ball yet Okafor rates better in DRPM.

[TTP]

I would have said that for Towns it's probably a sample size issue, except he graded really poorly defensively last season as well. He's going to peak as an exceptional defensive player but young guys are usually awful defensively.

Similarly, Embiid has incredible tools and will be amazing defensively, but he's also a rookie that's making a lot of mistakes now. He's fouling a lot more than Okafor is as well. Probably just small sample though.

[phifans]

Ibaka has been the dead last in DRPM of all the PFs ...
I know its small simple size but still

[TTP]

Ibaka has been the dead last in DRPM of all the PFs ...
I know its small simple size but still

He's crushed DRPM historically so likely just that he hasn't been great in a small sample so far. Could be some decline too since he was only mediocre last year and might be a bit older than we think he is.

[Foshan]

Ilbaka has been really bad tho this year so that doesn't surprise me.

Also i wonder if kAT's numbers have to do with playing the PF next to Deing rather than the C where he can just patrol the paint.

[Foshan]

^also to echo what someone else said. lets play jah next to embiid.

Sergio / Hollis / RoCo / jah / Embiid
TJ / Nik / Saric / Illy / Holmes

[phiphan]

Ibaka has been the dead last in DRPM of all the PFs ...
I know its small simple size but still

Bro he's 45, give him a break

[phifans]

^also to echo what someone else said. lets play jah next to embiid.

Sergio / Hollis / RoCo / jah / Embiid
TJ / Nik / Saric / Illy / Holmes

Wheres Henderson ?
Also I would let Nik handle the second unit and let TJ sit at the end of bench.

Sergio/Hendo/Roco/Jah/Biid
Sauce/Hollis/Saric/Ersan/Holmes