OKC Thunder Regular Season: General Talk

Post #1 » by **bondom34** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:06 pm

Shoulda started a new one for general talk too!

Pillendreher · Post #2 » by **Pillendreher** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:26 pm

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spearsy23 · Post #3 » by **spearsy23** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:29 pm

Pillendreher wrote:

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Lineup thoughts?
Best guess is that we keep the same starters, sub abrines in for vic earlier, play vic with the bench and (cue ominous music) give Singler Semaj's minutes.

Pillendreher · Post #4 » by **Pillendreher** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:24 pm

I would mutch rather see Dre getting more minutes.

Dipo-Abrines-Roberson-Laugvergne/Grant-Kanter

Post #5 » by **bondom34** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:48 am

http://fansided.com/2016/11/17/prospect-calibration-patrick-mccaw-sabonis-brogdon-siakam-luwawu-cabarrot/

Domantas Sabonis’ stretch four potential

Sabonis was the hardest player for me personally to rank in the draft last year. Armed with high skill-level, a sturdy frame and an elite motor, there was clearly an avenue for him to succeed in the league. However, his alligator arms (6-foot-10 wingspan) and lack of vertical athleticism combined with a limited sample shooting 3s made for a dicey fit. He looked like a 5 on offense but a 4 on defense, which is code for situational big, and a minus defender to boot. The defense is still very much a question-mark, but the range shooting so early in his career has been a head-turner.

Sabonis has finished 31 possessions as a spot up shooter this year per Synergy Sports, good for about 35 percent of his total offense. His efficiency isn’t outstanding at only 0.87 points per possession, in the 36th percentile, but he is 15 of 33 on 3s and his mechanics look solid

If his shooting holds somewhat to form offensively, he’s a versatile contributor who can impact a game multiple ways. While his interior defense and rim protection will always be a minus, the arrow is pointing up for the Sabonis, who has exceeded expectations being cast into the fire for the Thunder so quickly.

itzmrgigglez · Post #6 » by **itzmrgigglez** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:09 pm

If Christian can't come back soon or does and plays terribly. We should call Up Alex Caruso from the d league, because PG depth looking light

spearsy23 · Post #7 » by **spearsy23** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:28 pm

itzmrgigglez wrote:If Christian can't come back soon or does and plays terribly. We should call Up Alex Caruso from the d league, because PG depth looking light

We're not going to cut someone to sign Caruso. Plus, semaj has been really bad, it's not like playing without a PG is going to be too much different.

Thabo Sefolosha · Post #8 » by **Thabo Sefolosha** » Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:13 am

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Jstock12 · Post #9 » by **Jstock12** » Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:28 am

Domas' 3P% is going back down to Earth as was to be expected.

Hopefully he'll be able to maintain at least 36-38% for the rest of the season.

spearsy23 · Post #10 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:16 am

I thought this team was going to be young, exciting, and competitive. Instead they're just trash.

Post #11 » by **bondom34** » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:27 am

spearsy23 wrote:I thought this team was going to be young, exciting, and competitive. Instead they're just trash.

They're young. "Competitive" in that the games are all close. Exciting is a stretch.

spearsy23 · Post #12 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:29 am

bondom34 wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:I thought this team was going to be young, exciting, and competitive. Instead they're just trash.

They're young. "Competitive" in that the games are all close. Exciting is a stretch.

I meant competitive in that tthey compete and give their all nightly. Not competitive in the 'games against **** teams are close' way...

Post #13 » by **bondom34** » Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:32 am

spearsy23 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:I thought this team was going to be young, exciting, and competitive. Instead they're just trash.

They're young. "Competitive" in that the games are all close. Exciting is a stretch.

I meant competitive in that tthey compete and give their all nightly. Not competitive in the 'games against **** teams are close' way...

I think the effort is mostly there. A few guys are iffy but Russ, VO, Adams, Sabonis I don't question. And Abrines has shown potential.

spearsy23 · Post #14 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:41 am

bondom34 wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:They're young. "Competitive" in that the games are all close. Exciting is a stretch.

I meant competitive in that tthey compete and give their all nightly. Not competitive in the 'games against **** teams are close' way...

I think the effort is mostly there. A few guys are iffy but Russ, VO, Adams, Sabonis I don't question. And Abrines has shown potential.

Adams and Vic have both looked checked out of games at times in this still young season. Steven in particular has failed to rotate and contest some shots that I'd expect him to if he's being given a max contact and averaging 8/8 or whatever.

Russ, as always, is MAXIMUM EFFORT.

Sabonis is tougher because I think he's giving effort all the time, he's just a rookie who still gets overpowered and out of position at times.

Post #15 » by **bondom34** » Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:45 am

spearsy23 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:I meant competitive in that tthey compete and give their all nightly. Not competitive in the 'games against **** teams are close' way...

I think the effort is mostly there. A few guys are iffy but Russ, VO, Adams, Sabonis I don't question. And Abrines has shown potential.

Adams and Vic have both looked checked out of games at times in this still young season. Steven in particular has failed to rotate and contest some shots that I'd expect him to if he's being given a max contact and averaging 8/8 or whatever.

Russ, as always, is MAXIMUM EFFORT.

Sabonis is tougher because I think he's giving effort all the time, he's just a rookie who still gets overpowered and out of position at times.

I'd disagree for sure on Vic. He's been doing things he's never had to and outside Robes has been really solid defensively on the perimeter. Adams just is having issues on offense to my eye.

spearsy23 · Post #16 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:02 am

bondom34 wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:I think the effort is mostly there. A few guys are iffy but Russ, VO, Adams, Sabonis I don't question. And Abrines has shown potential.

Adams and Vic have both looked checked out of games at times in this still young season. Steven in particular has failed to rotate and contest some shots that I'd expect him to if he's being given a max contact and averaging 8/8 or whatever.

Russ, as always, is MAXIMUM EFFORT.

Sabonis is tougher because I think he's giving effort all the time, he's just a rookie who still gets overpowered and out of position at times.

I'd disagree for sure on Vic. He's been doing things he's never had to and outside Robes has been really solid defensively on the perimeter. Adams just is having issues on offense to my eye.

Vic being asked to do less than he's ever had to before. It's probably fair to blame it on getting used to his role but his refusal to attempt to create any offense for the first few weeks was maddening.

Steven's offense has clearly not progressed, but I wouldn't say that's effort related, it's just him being bad at it. Defensively his fouls per 36 are way down, and it's partly playing smarter and partly that he's not trying to contest at the rim as much. And in the Philly and minny games there were multiple times embiid/towns shoot jumpers over him while he just stood a few feet away. I'm not saying he's been bad or anything, but his effort has been lacking at times.

Post #17 » by **bondom34** » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:11 am

spearsy23 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:Adams and Vic have both looked checked out of games at times in this still young season. Steven in particular has failed to rotate and contest some shots that I'd expect him to if he's being given a max contact and averaging 8/8 or whatever.

Russ, as always, is MAXIMUM EFFORT.

Sabonis is tougher because I think he's giving effort all the time, he's just a rookie who still gets overpowered and out of position at times.

I'd disagree for sure on Vic. He's been doing things he's never had to and outside Robes has been really solid defensively on the perimeter. Adams just is having issues on offense to my eye.
Vic being asked to do less than he's ever had to before. It's probably fair to blame it on getting used to his role but his refusal to attempt to create any offense for the first few weeks was maddening.

Steven's offense has clearly not progressed, but I wouldn't say that's effort related, it's just him being bad at it. Defensively his fouls per 36 are way down, and it's partly playing smarter and partly that he's not trying to contest at the rim as much. And in the Philly and minny games there were multiple times embiid/towns shoot jumpers over him while he just stood a few feet away. I'm not saying he's been bad or anything, but his effort has been lacking at times.

Not sure if it means anything or not, but reading reddit, and it seems we're tougher on him than other fans. He's still been really good. If his offense was where it seems some thought it should be he'd be like prime Marc Gasol good.

Also OT but the end of the Raps game has a great GB meltdown right now.

Pillendreher · Post #18 » by **Pillendreher** » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:20 pm

The main problem is effort. There's no way I'm hell we lose to the Magic, Pistons and Pacers if we just compete. That's 3 losses that are gonna come back and bite us in the ass.

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Pillendreher · Post #19 » by **Pillendreher** » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:24 pm

We should be 11-3 right now. So frustrating.

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Post #20 » by **bondom34** » Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:15 pm

Dennis Reynolds wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
When a team from the east goes there without 3 of their top players I wish OKC could beat them.

Hey Rob, we get it. Yet still your team signed Jeff Green and traded for a player to start over your youth movement. And your record reflects it. Troll elsewhere.

You know how you guys could let this go? By actually letting it go and not quoting me.

You showed up without anyone quoting you in the 1st place.

You can also let it go by not posting every time somebody quotes you just like you did when I asked about Dipo's role on your board.

I didn't see you here before, but he's been doing a bit of secondary ball handling with Westbrook on the bench and now their only healthy backup PG out due to injury. So I'd expect more of that. His 3 point shot has been surprisingly good, and defensively I've been mostly impressed. I'd like to see him take a bigger role though, and that's something I'm hoping expands as the season goes.