Season Speculation, Trade Ideas and Discussion

[Bogyo]

I'm just gonna leave this here.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/244032/Jazz-Prioritizing-Extension-For-George-Hill-Over-Derrick-Favors

Trade Chandler and Knight for a pick, bottom out, get 2 lottery picks in the draft and sign Favors to be our C with Len.

Bledsoe/Draftpick/Ulis
Booker/Barbosa
TJ/Draftpick/Dudley
Chriss/Bender/Tucker
Favors/Len

Could be a real solid team down the line if we can pick up a star PG and a good 3&D wing.

Why should we keep Len? I'm really confused by this approach.

Still young enough, and adequate to be a good backup/occasional starter in my opinion - if he develops a bit more (which he has a little time for, see Robin Lopez, and all the other late bloomer big man), and we can keep him on a reasonable contract. The latter probably a bit more important if we do sign a starting caliber C for the future, like the plan above.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Trade tucker for literally anything. If watson cant control himself and insists on playing him 40 mins a night instead of giving bender some run then i guess they need to remove that option.

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[NTB]

Read on Twitter

CP3 to Suns confirmed.

[OGBAH]

Can't argue with that

[Kerrsed]

Read on Twitter

CP3 to Suns confirmed.

Hmmmm..... i know that CP3 and Chandler have remained very good friend since their time together in New Orleans, i wonder if CP3 is courting Chandler to come to the Clippers. I mean his mom just passed, so im sure he has been talking to those close to him (Including Chris Paul), he has been spending all this personal leave time in LA dealing with it, funny that here he is stuck as the old man on a very young and losing team, but the reason we have read about why he is staying is due to Watson's "Family" approach, and yet here is CP3 posting a picture of them together with the words FAMILY. A subtle jab at the Suns organization while also reminding Chandler who his family really is and why he should be in a Clippers jersey.

Chandler/Tucker for Jordan.

A 28 year old Jordan fits our teams time frame much better than Chandler. He also fits that role of a real defender in the paint that we get on occasion with Chandler.

Clippers get a CP3 friend, one with championship experience, and a great locker room guy who knows his role and rarely tries to play out of it. It is a liytle bit of a downgrade for them at C, but they also get a major improvement at SF with Tucker.

IDK, just an idea based of a simple twitter post, lol.

[bwgood77]

Read on Twitter

CP3 to Suns confirmed.

Hmmmm..... i know that CP3 and Chandler have remained very good friend since their time together in New Orleans, i wonder if CP3 is courting Chandler to come to the Clippers. I mean his mom just passed, so im sure he has been talking to those close to him (Including Chris Paul), he has been spending all this personal leave time in LA dealing with it, funny that here he is stuck as the old man on a very young and losing team, but the reason we have read about why he is staying is due to Watson's "Family" approach, and yet here is CP3 posting a picture of them together with the words FAMILY. A subtle jab at the Suns organization while also reminding Chandler who his family really is and why he should be in a Clippers jersey.

Chandler/Tucker for Jordan.

A 28 year old Jordan fits our teams time frame much better than Chandler. He also fits that role of a real defender in the paint that we get on occasion with Chandler.

Clippers get a CP3 friend, one with championship experience, and a great locker room guy who knows his role and rarely tries to play out of it. It is a liytle bit of a downgrade for them at C, but they also get a major improvement at SF with Tucker.

IDK, just an idea based of a simple twitter post, lol.

I was wondering where you were going with this thinking "they have Jordan, and olympian, why would the want Chandler, and then you propose a trade for him". I think the tweet is more telling him he is there for him and knowing he is going through a tough time. You don't think his mother's funeral being today has anything to do with CP3 reaching out?

[thamadkant]

Read on Twitter

CP3 to Suns confirmed.

Hmmmm..... i know that CP3 and Chandler have remained very good friend since their time together in New Orleans, i wonder if CP3 is courting Chandler to come to the Clippers. I mean his mom just passed, so im sure he has been talking to those close to him (Including Chris Paul), he has been spending all this personal leave time in LA dealing with it, funny that here he is stuck as the old man on a very young and losing team, but the reason we have read about why he is staying is due to Watson's "Family" approach, and yet here is CP3 posting a picture of them together with the words FAMILY. A subtle jab at the Suns organization while also reminding Chandler who his family really is and why he should be in a Clippers jersey.

Chandler/Tucker for Jordan.

A 28 year old Jordan fits our teams time frame much better than Chandler. He also fits that role of a real defender in the paint that we get on occasion with Chandler.

Clippers get a CP3 friend, one with championship experience, and a great locker room guy who knows his role and rarely tries to play out of it. It is a liytle bit of a downgrade for them at C, but they also get a major improvement at SF with Tucker.

IDK, just an idea based of a simple twitter post, lol.

Tucker has negative value.
Chandler is neutral to slightly positive...
Jordan is a coveted defensive center.

Maybe adding Knight and a pick might be closer.

[Frank Lee]

Coaching basketball at the professional level takes much more than feel good moments highlighted with wooden-esque cliches and reach arounds. Are we to give Watson the same gratuitous learning curve we grant our rooks? McD should get no slack either. This team is long on potential and short on real NBA talent. We essentially have no capable PGs or PFs, marginal unimpressive Cs. Our lone bright spots at Sg and Sf are athletically challenged and clearly have difficulty on defense.

Mask this mess with a 'rebuild' label.... As it's getting real old fast to me, when our hope for improvement becomes future draft picks we haven't even made yet. If it looks like Dog****, and smells like Dog****......

[TeamTragic]

I think that Paul would push for trading DJ if that meant getting Chandler back. Seriously. Those guys are really close. Besides do you remember what happened last season:

http://www.si.com/nba/2015/05/18/deandre-jordan-clippers-free-agency-chris-paul

[lazyboy62]

I've had some shots and I'm thinking what about the Bucks Monroe? We wanted him two years ago, Len and Bledsoe for Monroe and the Lakers Pick? Should work. Monroe outside of that system might work here. 27 this year if I'm not wrong. Still young and could be a good pick up.

[carey]

The Clippers are 12-2. They aren't trading anyone right now.

[TeamTragic]

The Clippers are 12-2. They aren't trading anyone right now.

Their issue is not the regular season. Their issue has been during the playoffs.

[ATTL]

I've had some shots and I'm thinking what about the Bucks Monroe? We wanted him two years ago, Len and Bledsoe for Monroe and the Lakers Pick? Should work. Monroe outside of that system might work here. 27 this year if I'm not wrong. Still young and could be a good pick up.

Monroe is on the bench because his defense is so bad. He's been a huge disappointment for the bucks. Unfortunately for the bucks, they didn't get the lakers pick in the trade with us, Sixer's did.

[biltalent]

Hey guys, Kings fan here. I just wondered how would you judge Bledsoes trade value right now? Do you think there is a realistic scenario that he gets traded and the Suns tank to get one of the top PG prospects of the 2017 draft? So say the Kings FO calls you and wants to reunite Bledsoe with Cousins - what do you want in return?
Keep in mind however that the kings cant trade their first rounder until 2021, so young prospects would have to be at the heart of the deal. Right now, the kings could offer you a combination of Mclemore, WCS, Richardson, Skal and Papagiannis as well as veteran guys in Casspi, Collison or Rudy Gay (all expiring).

Have a nice day!

[Qwigglez]

Greetings Kings fan!
I saw this trade discussion on Kings SBnation...
http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2016/11/17/13672662/phoenix-sactown-boogie-trade?_ga=1.68462609.1402479239.1413262792

[Bogyo]

Hey guys, Kings fan here. I just wondered how would you judge Bledsoes trade value right now? Do you think there is a realistic scenario that he gets traded and the Suns tank to get one of the top PG prospects of the 2017 draft? So say the Kings FO calls you and wants to reunite Bledsoe with Cousins - what do you want in return?
Keep in mind however that the kings cant trade their first rounder until 2021, so young prospects would have to be at the heart of the deal. Right now, the kings could offer you a combination of Mclemore, WCS, Richardson, Skal and Papagiannis as well as veteran guys in Casspi, Collison or Rudy Gay (all expiring).

Have a nice day!

I think Bledsoe is only tradeable if we decide to blow up the remaining veteran core of our team, and go for the first pick hard. Especially for whatever youth you have. Bled is worth a mid lottery pick in my view, and you don't really have that talent in your proposal. McLemore no, WCS maybe -but then we have a logjam up front, Richardson, Skal an Papa are not it. If we decide to blow it up, then we are not taking veterans back imho - although a possibility at the trade deadline for these half year rentals, but then we'd have to sign a cpl guys next offseason just to meet the minimum salary, and since on big free agent will come to a gutted team, that doesn't make too much sense either. So I don't really see a trade happening along these lines at the moment, sorry.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Coaching basketball at the professional level takes much more than feel good moments highlighted with wooden-esque cliches and reach arounds. Are we to give Watson the same gratuitous learning curve we grant our rooks? McD should get no slack either. This team is long on potential and short on real NBA talent. We essentially have no capable PGs or PFs, marginal unimpressive Cs. Our lone bright spots at Sg and Sf are athletically challenged and clearly have difficulty on defense.

Mask this mess with a 'rebuild' label.... As it's getting real old fast to me, when our hope for improvement becomes future draft picks we haven't even made yet. If it looks like Dog****, and smells like Dog****......

Frank do you feel this team is decent with a good coach? Because i just dont see it. Bright side for you is you might get your wish and both Watson and mcd could get fired after this season. I always viewed the quick removal of watsons interm tag as a sign that mcd was on thin ice so they were going the cheap inhouse route instead of spending big on and being locked into a vet coach. I could see mass changes this offseason but unfortunately im not sure it matters as long as that idiot sarver owns the team.

I would love to sit down Sarver, watson, and mcd and hear a honest off the record breakdown of what the plan was going into this season. Because like always their actions seem contradictory.. on one hand you draft 2 teenagers in the top 10 so you would think great were gonna go young and for once properly rebuild... but then they play guys like tucker, barbs, Chandler, and dudley big minutes and limit the minutes of guys like bender who need to develop. Theres a 0% chance those vets will be part of the next competitive team this franchise puts on the floor. My question is WHY? Would they rather win 30 games instead of 23? Which is not only pointless but actively harmful for landing a better pick in a good draft. This **** franchise is always half stepping and its the reason as of now im in favor of firing everyone.

But again im not sure it matters as long as sarver is still in charge. To me the one constant over the past decade is this franchise just doesnt do a honest evaluation of itself. We saw this when they held onto the nash teams core and pretended they could still compete without amare.. had they blew it up then we might be rebuilt by now but constant half stepping has **** this franchise.

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[alphagorilla]

Derrick Favors looking like the odd man out for the Jazz. We should look into trading for him and play him at center.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Derrick Favors looking like the odd man out for the Jazz. We should look into trading for him and play him at center.

Id be alright nabbing favors but i have a hard time seeing a deal that makes sense for both teams. The price tag on his next contact is concerning too. Hes a nice player but i dont see him ever being a "star" type player.

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[Frank Lee]

You are likely right Week.... I don't know if we would be any better W/L wise, or even more competitive. And perhaps Watson will Improve his game management with more experience. Fact is though, he is probably the best PG on the team. And Who knows what marching orders he has concerning playing time.

The root may be Sarver, but I have to admit he has been much less visible and vocal about the ongoing play. He has shown patience so far. The problems in my eyes is the roster more than anything. As you say, wtf are we signing Dudley and Barbs for? Why Chandler if you are doing nothing else to construct a team to be competitive now?

Pick a direction and go. The big picture is blurry to us, but the current channel has awful reception. I have to hope a monster trade is brewing, for it seems like this team is constructed to be taken apart.