So how about Joel Embiid

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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1021 » by tsherkin » Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:16 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:If defenses keep giving him that much space, shooting high percentages from those areas isn't that unreasonable. I would expect those numbers to drop more from a change in defensive attention away from the hoop than from his wide open shooting dropping off.


High percentages, yes. Peak Dirk mid-range shooting and Kyle Korver-type 3pt shooting, no. :D
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Post#1022 » by Unbreakable99 » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:56 pm

Embiid is a legend.

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Post#1023 » by Marcus » Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:03 am

Unbreakable99 wrote:Embiid is a legend.

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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1024 » by Ballerhogger » Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:24 am

Very likeable guy . Just please stay healthy.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1025 » by tsherkin » Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:08 am

Ballerhogger wrote:Very likeable guy . Just please stay healthy.


+ a million to this.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1026 » by Mirjalovic » Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:10 am

how can he be this good ? he didn't play in competitive match for 2 years !!! He should be rusty but play like he's top 10 players in NBA right now. Crazy
shawn_hemp wrote: a guy who is far worse than Robert Covington in Brandon Ingram, and a guy who is no better than TJ McConnell or Tony Wroten in D'Angelo Russell.

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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1027 » by wickedwrister » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:22 am

Amare_1_Knicks wrote:I think the Al Jefferson comparison for Embiid is lazy and inaccurate. I'm not seeing it at all really.



The funny part is that Al Jefferson 2.0 is a center for the Sixers who is also coming off an injury and also currently on a 24 minute restriction.....its just not Embiid.
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Post#1028 » by nikster » Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:09 am

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spursscott wrote:Your over glorification of every move this idiot made is hilarious almost as hilarious as the sixers record this season.

what was he supposed to do? He took a team with basically just Jrue Holiday and no assests and no bright future and now they have a bunch of young talent in Noel, Embiid, Okafor, Saric and Simmons. He didnt have tons of assests to make any big trades but the trades he did make were all great. The holiday trade was great, he got a first round pick for MCW. The 76ers may suck this year but they are dealing with injuries and limit restrictions to all their best players.

The spin you put on this is just hilarious. The fact that you lump players like Saric and Noel in to the "bunch of young talent" while acting like the sixers only had Jrue Holiday when he showed up is ridiculous. I get that you see this with some homer eyes but it doesnt take any genius to gut a team and tank for a couple years while praying what every crop of new one and done players that comes in has talent.

Please tell me what talent the 76ers had. They had Evan Turner, Spencer Hawes and Thad young. He might have been able to get more for Young but those other were not real assets. They traded away a first rounder in the disaster that was the Andre Bynum trade. 76ers were very low on assets when Hinkie arrived.
Why is it ridiculous to include Saric and Noel in the "bunch of young talent"?

Tanking doesnt take genius but it takes guts and Hinkie made several solid picks and trades along the way. Now the 76ers are way better off than they were when he took over.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1029 » by Kabookalu » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:25 am

I remember getting into an argument with Sixers fans dismissing that Embiid would be a stretch big man. He's already showing he is in his first ten games. Shut me up there.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1030 » by maisenza13 » Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:17 pm

Complete player. he moves like a PG with his footwork
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1031 » by HotelVitale » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:56 pm

If you can't catch any Sixers' games but want a better sense of Embiid's impact than just highlights, here's lorak's video with every play he was involved in against the Suns two nights ago (good and bad, make or miss):
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Post#1032 » by spursscott » Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:48 pm

nikster wrote:
spursscott wrote:
nikster wrote:what was he supposed to do? He took a team with basically just Jrue Holiday and no assests and no bright future and now they have a bunch of young talent in Noel, Embiid, Okafor, Saric and Simmons. He didnt have tons of assests to make any big trades but the trades he did make were all great. The holiday trade was great, he got a first round pick for MCW. The 76ers may suck this year but they are dealing with injuries and limit restrictions to all their best players.

The spin you put on this is just hilarious. The fact that you lump players like Saric and Noel in to the "bunch of young talent" while acting like the sixers only had Jrue Holiday when he showed up is ridiculous. I get that you see this with some homer eyes but it doesnt take any genius to gut a team and tank for a couple years while praying what every crop of new one and done players that comes in has talent.

Please tell me what talent the 76ers had. They had Evan Turner, Spencer Hawes and Thad young. He might have been able to get more for Young but those other were not real assets. They traded away a first rounder in the disaster that was the Andre Bynum trade. 76ers were very low on assets when Hinkie arrived.
Why is it ridiculous to include Saric and Noel in the "bunch of young talent"?

Tanking doesnt take genius but it takes guts and Hinkie made several solid picks and trades along the way. Now the 76ers are way better off than they were when he took over.

I dont have to tell you, you just told me. Im pointing out the hilarity of you saying "basically just Jrue Holiday and no assets" when that clearly wasnt the case especially when you reach so hard to throw Noel and Saric in to the same group as the other actually talented guys on your roster.
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Post#1033 » by The_Hater » Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:55 pm

spursscott wrote:
nikster wrote:
spursscott wrote:The spin you put on this is just hilarious. The fact that you lump players like Saric and Noel in to the "bunch of young talent" while acting like the sixers only had Jrue Holiday when he showed up is ridiculous. I get that you see this with some homer eyes but it doesnt take any genius to gut a team and tank for a couple years while praying what every crop of new one and done players that comes in has talent.

Please tell me what talent the 76ers had. They had Evan Turner, Spencer Hawes and Thad young. He might have been able to get more for Young but those other were not real assets. They traded away a first rounder in the disaster that was the Andre Bynum trade. 76ers were very low on assets when Hinkie arrived.
Why is it ridiculous to include Saric and Noel in the "bunch of young talent"?

Tanking doesnt take genius but it takes guts and Hinkie made several solid picks and trades along the way. Now the 76ers are way better off than they were when he took over.

I dont have to tell you, you just told me. Im pointing out the hilarity of you saying "basically just Jrue Holiday and no assets" when that clearly wasnt the case especially when you reach so hard to throw Noel and Saric in to the same group as the other actually talented guys on your roster.


It's more hilarious to claim that Noel and Saric aren't talented young NBA players.

You keep fighting for your initial one-sided argument about Hinkie and the Sixers and have still failed to present a single good counter argument. You just toss out these throwaway statements and try to pass them off as facts.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1034 » by The_Hater » Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:57 pm

Choker wrote:I remember getting into an argument with Sixers fans dismissing that Embiid would be a stretch big man. He's already showing he is in his first ten games. Shut me up there.


I thought he showed really nice touch on his jumper in college, I had know idea that his range extended 10 feet further than what we were seeing.
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Post#1035 » by nikster » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:34 pm

spursscott wrote:
nikster wrote:
spursscott wrote:The spin you put on this is just hilarious. The fact that you lump players like Saric and Noel in to the "bunch of young talent" while acting like the sixers only had Jrue Holiday when he showed up is ridiculous. I get that you see this with some homer eyes but it doesnt take any genius to gut a team and tank for a couple years while praying what every crop of new one and done players that comes in has talent.

Please tell me what talent the 76ers had. They had Evan Turner, Spencer Hawes and Thad young. He might have been able to get more for Young but those other were not real assets. They traded away a first rounder in the disaster that was the Andre Bynum trade. 76ers were very low on assets when Hinkie arrived.
Why is it ridiculous to include Saric and Noel in the "bunch of young talent"?

Tanking doesnt take genius but it takes guts and Hinkie made several solid picks and trades along the way. Now the 76ers are way better off than they were when he took over.

I dont have to tell you, you just told me. Im pointing out the hilarity of you sayings "basically just Jrue Holiday and no assets" when that clearly wasnt the case especially when you reach so hard to throw Noel and Saric in to the same group as the other actually talented guys on your roster.

You think those players were strong assests you could use to make some significant improvements for a team? They were average role players at best with little to no trade value. Look at what Thad young has been traded for in his career after 76ers: A way over the hill Kevin Garnett and then Caris Levert. Spencer Hawes is in his prime at 28 and just had two terrible seasons and is coming off the bench. Evan Turner had lost all trade value and was terrible in Indiana. He had his stock shoot up after playing in Brad Stevens system but it looks like Portland wasted a lot of money on him. Im sure you think the current brooklyn nets roster is just full of assests as well.

Noel and Saric currently have higher trade value than those 3 players ever did.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1036 » by lilswift01 » Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:15 pm

Some of these African players coming out recently have some great personalities and they are not inflicted with ego and insecurity you see in a lot of players. Embid falls in that category and i am happy about that. He has a chance to be very very special if he continues to improve and stays healthy.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1037 » by Renegade_H » Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:23 pm

The_Hater wrote:
Choker wrote:I remember getting into an argument with Sixers fans dismissing that Embiid would be a stretch big man. He's already showing he is in his first ten games. Shut me up there.


I thought he showed really nice touch on his jumper in college, I had know idea that his range extended 10 feet further than what we were seeing.


Thats what happens when you sit for two years and have your coaches develop your shot. Basically he redshirt-ed for development and, of course, healing.
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Post#1038 » by spursscott » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:03 pm

The_Hater wrote:
spursscott wrote:
nikster wrote:Please tell me what talent the 76ers had. They had Evan Turner, Spencer Hawes and Thad young. He might have been able to get more for Young but those other were not real assets. They traded away a first rounder in the disaster that was the Andre Bynum trade. 76ers were very low on assets when Hinkie arrived.
Why is it ridiculous to include Saric and Noel in the "bunch of young talent"?

Tanking doesnt take genius but it takes guts and Hinkie made several solid picks and trades along the way. Now the 76ers are way better off than they were when he took over.

I dont have to tell you, you just told me. Im pointing out the hilarity of you saying "basically just Jrue Holiday and no assets" when that clearly wasnt the case especially when you reach so hard to throw Noel and Saric in to the same group as the other actually talented guys on your roster.


It's more hilarious to claim that Noel and Saric aren't talented young NBA players.

You keep fighting for your initial one-sided argument about Hinkie and the Sixers and have still failed to present a single good counter argument. You just toss out these throwaway statements and try to pass them off as facts.

In the context of putting them in the same group as Embiid, Simmons, and Okafor ,which you obviously would know is the context I am referring to if you would ever read, they are clearly not at the same level. They are a lot closer to the type of talent the sixers had when Hinkie took over.

Please try reading before you respond to another one of my posts. Explaining very simple things to you is tiresome.
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Post#1039 » by The_Hater » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:07 pm

spursscott wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
spursscott wrote:I dont have to tell you, you just told me. Im pointing out the hilarity of you saying "basically just Jrue Holiday and no assets" when that clearly wasnt the case especially when you reach so hard to throw Noel and Saric in to the same group as the other actually talented guys on your roster.


It's more hilarious to claim that Noel and Saric aren't talented young NBA players.

You keep fighting for your initial one-sided argument about Hinkie and the Sixers and have still failed to present a single good counter argument. You just toss out these throwaway statements and try to pass them off as facts.

In the context of putting them in the same group as Embiid, Simmons, and Okafor ,which you obviously would know is the context I am referring to if you would ever read, they are clearly not at the same level. They are a lot closer to the type of talent the sixers had when Hinkie took over.

Please try reading before you respond to another one of my posts. Explaining very simple things to you is tiresome.


I don't get that last paragraph. Please explain?
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Post#1040 » by HartfordWhalers » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:09 pm

spursscott wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
spursscott wrote:I dont have to tell you, you just told me. Im pointing out the hilarity of you saying "basically just Jrue Holiday and no assets" when that clearly wasnt the case especially when you reach so hard to throw Noel and Saric in to the same group as the other actually talented guys on your roster.


It's more hilarious to claim that Noel and Saric aren't talented young NBA players.

You keep fighting for your initial one-sided argument about Hinkie and the Sixers and have still failed to present a single good counter argument. You just toss out these throwaway statements and try to pass them off as facts.

In the context of putting them in the same group as Embiid, Simmons, and Okafor ,which you obviously would know is the context I am referring to if you would ever read, they are clearly not at the same level. They are a lot closer to the type of talent the sixers had when Hinkie took over.

Please try reading before you respond to another one of my posts. Explaining very simple things to you is tiresome.



Noel was better than Okafor last year, so it might be tiring for you to keep explaining how Noel is closer to Hawes and Arnette Moultrie than he is to Okafor, but a lot of us will need a lot more explaining to see things the way you do.

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