Make an offer for Bledsoe

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Re: Make an offer for Bledsoe 

Post#21 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:04 am

Rubio is an interesting one. Like his fit with Booker
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Re: Make an offer for Bledsoe 

Post#22 » by Mamba4Goat » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:19 am

What about something like...
Dallas sends: Bogut, Williams, Harris 2017 1st (Lotto protected, top 10, top 8, unprotected)
Dallas receives: Bledsoe, Knight

Celtics send: Rozier, Zeller
Celtics receive: Bogut

Suns sends: Knight, Bledsoe
Suns receive: Rozier, Williams, Harris, Zeller, Dallas 1st

Or something roughly like that? Dallas gets a set of young guards to pair with Barnes going forward, Boston gets their center that helps hide some of their flaws, and Suns get a young point, a decent young center, and a first with a ton of expirings while casually tanking.
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Re: Make an offer for Bledsoe 

Post#23 » by asudevil » Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:28 am

NewWolvesOrder wrote:Rubio and Dieng for Bledsoe and Tyson.


This is something i would consider.

Suns get themselves a defensive pass first PG, and youthen up the C position.
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Re: Make an offer for Bledsoe 

Post#24 » by patman52 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:47 am

Mamba4Goat wrote:What about something like...
Dallas sends: Bogut, Williams, Harris 2017 1st (Lotto protected, top 10, top 8, unprotected)
Dallas receives: Bledsoe, Knight

Celtics send: Rozier, Zeller
Celtics receive: Bogut

Suns sends: Knight, Bledsoe
Suns receive: Rozier, Williams, Harris, Zeller, Dallas 1st

Or something roughly like that? Dallas gets a set of young guards to pair with Barnes going forward, Boston gets their center that helps hide some of their flaws, and Suns get a young point, a decent young center, and a first with a ton of expirings while casually tanking.


The celts will not trade rozier who is playing well to rent Bogut for 30-40 games. Jackson, maybe! but most likely just a 2nd and zeller or 2 -2nds and Zeller.
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Re: Make an offer for Bledsoe 

Post#25 » by Mich3006 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:29 pm

Another try with Orlando:
Bledsoe, Tucker for Green, Watson, 2017 1st Rd Pick (top 5 protected)
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Re: Make an offer for Bledsoe 

Post#26 » by mudsak » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:52 pm

Jazz send Alec Burks + Dante Exum

I think this is likely a stretch...maybe Utah needs to include a pick to make it happen. But... Exum is high potential, and young to fit the developing Suns. If Burks gets healthy again he's a beast of a 6th man.

Bledsoe is a beast, but he's got knee issues that are a concern.

Why Utah does it... goes with win now mode, and fits the team better. Bledsoe's contract is long enough not to cause problems signing other core players... adds instant offensive weapon, and goes well with Defensive mindset of the team.

Why Suns do it... if I'm the Suns I probably don't do it, but this move could make more sense for the Suns from a timeline standpoint. Exum is an elite athlete with promising potential. Can play the 1 or 2, is a young buck, and has a rookie contract. Burks hasn't been healthy, but when healthy is a versatile player who can get to the hoop at will. Decent enough to start... but a top tier level bench player. Also has three years left on a decent contract. Averaged 13.3 pts 3.5 rebounds, and 40% from 3 before being injured last year. This was playing from the bench.


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Re: Make an offer for Bledsoe 

Post#27 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:05 pm

mudsak wrote:Jazz send Alec Burks + Dante Exum


Now that's a deal that could make sense for both teams. Utah's timeline is somewhat more immediate than the Suns - with Hayward and Favors being about Bledsoe's age. Solid!
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Post#28 » by draftnightsuit » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:28 pm

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Post#29 » by PhilasFinest » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:53 pm

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Post#31 » by jbk1234 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:32 pm

PhilasFinest wrote:Nerlens Noel


I think it would take more than Noel or Noel going to a third team. But there's an obvious trade angle there.
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Re: Make an offer for Bledsoe 

Post#32 » by babyjax13 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:39 pm

Milwaukee seems like a great destination, as does Philly. Not sure what either would give.
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Re: Make an offer for Bledsoe 

Post#33 » by babyjax13 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:40 pm

cosmofizzo wrote:
mudsak wrote:Jazz send Alec Burks + Dante Exum


Now that's a deal that could make sense for both teams. Utah's timeline is somewhat more immediate than the Suns - with Hayward and Favors being about Bledsoe's age. Solid!


I don't see why we'd do it tbh. Bledsoe is an upgrade over Hill hypothetically (not if Hill sustains his play so far), but not a huge one, and not worth moving Exum just to put Hill in a backup role.
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Re: Make an offer for Bledsoe 

Post#34 » by bwgood77 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:11 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:
jayu70 wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:Back to Bledsoe, what about some version of a 3 teamer:

Bledsoe to Atlanta,
Milsap to 3rd team
3rd tam assets to Phx?
(With value fixings)


Toronto would be my choice for the third team, but Atlanta gets a younger player that is locked up long term and can pair next to Schroeder, Phoenix gets some picks/youth, and Toronto gets a pf.

This makes no sense for Atlanta. They just gave Dennis an extension. Bledsoe is another PG. Who plays PF for Atlanta?


Bledsoe should be a sg imo. As for who plays pf, that question is still there in a year as is. I don't see maxing out Milsap as logical for Atlanta as is.


I'd absolutely max out Millsap with how good their team is playing. Millsap is a top 20 player if not higher imo and they are locked into Howard for a while anyway, so they might as well go for it all right now. If they keep playing as well as they are, they could find themselves in the finals if, for example LeBron got injured. They are obviously not solely trying to get younger or start any kind of rebuild any time soon.
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Post#35 » by Kazuya10 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:16 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
PhilasFinest wrote:Nerlens Noel


I think it would take more than Noel or Noel going to a third team. But there's an obvious trade angle there.

Bulls would get involved in that. Valentine and 1st protected as a base line
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Re: Make an offer for Bledsoe 

Post#36 » by bwgood77 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:45 pm

mudsak wrote:Jazz send Alec Burks + Dante Exum

I think this is likely a stretch...maybe Utah needs to include a pick to make it happen. But... Exum is high potential, and young to fit the developing Suns. If Burks gets healthy again he's a beast of a 6th man.

Bledsoe is a beast, but he's got knee issues that are a concern.

Why Utah does it... goes with win now mode, and fits the team better. Bledsoe's contract is long enough not to cause problems signing other core players... adds instant offensive weapon, and goes well with Defensive mindset of the team.

Why Suns do it... if I'm the Suns I probably don't do it, but this move could make more sense for the Suns from a timeline standpoint. Exum is an elite athlete with promising potential. Can play the 1 or 2, is a young buck, and has a rookie contract. Burks hasn't been healthy, but when healthy is a versatile player who can get to the hoop at will. Decent enough to start... but a top tier level bench player. Also has three years left on a decent contract. Averaged 13.3 pts 3.5 rebounds, and 40% from 3 before being injured last year. This was playing from the bench.


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I like this one, but the Suns would HAVE to get rid of Knight, because Burks is a better 6th man imo (well, I'm guessing purely on Knight's play and seeing some of Burks numbers) but also partially because Knight wants to start somewhere and Ulis is really better for the second unit which would be good with Ulis/Burks/(2 of Bender/Tucker/Dudley)/Bender/Len
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Re: Make an offer for Bledsoe 

Post#37 » by mudsak » Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:11 pm

babyjax13 wrote:
cosmofizzo wrote:
mudsak wrote:Jazz send Alec Burks + Dante Exum



I don't see why we'd do it tbh. Bledsoe is an upgrade over Hill hypothetically (not if Hill sustains his play so far), but not a huge one, and not worth moving Exum just to put Hill in a backup role.


I understand your point. I've always been high on Bledsoe. Hill is (was) playing out of his mind to start this season off. So far he's seemed to be just the addition that the Jazz needed (prior to injuries taking him/favors out). One major difference is the age of Hill vs. Bledsoe. I like what I've seen from Hill so far, but I'd like to see more before I felt comfortable handing out an extension (due to age). For the time being Hill and Bledsoe could both either play the 1 or 2 at the same time, and Hood likely goes to 6th man duty...but probably interchanges with either Bledsoe/Hill depending on line up strategies. The kicker in this situation is that it leaves the Jazz with a hole in the back up PG position.

You're probably right about the fit considering HIll and Exum is a pretty solid rotation. There's also the chance the Burks comes back to actually play again too. We've all forgotten about him, but he'd be such a huge asset to the Jazz right now if he was playing.
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Re: Make an offer for Bledsoe 

Post#38 » by Rapcity_11 » Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:11 am

babyjax13 wrote:
cosmofizzo wrote:
mudsak wrote:Jazz send Alec Burks + Dante Exum


Now that's a deal that could make sense for both teams. Utah's timeline is somewhat more immediate than the Suns - with Hayward and Favors being about Bledsoe's age. Solid!


I don't see why we'd do it tbh. Bledsoe is an upgrade over Hill hypothetically (not if Hill sustains his play so far), but not a huge one, and not worth moving Exum just to put Hill in a backup role.


Both Hill and Bledsoe can play the 2. I think they would look great next to each other. Play them both 32 mins. They each get 16 mins to run the point, and the other 16 they play together.

I'd do that deal as the Jazz.
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Re: Make an offer for Bledsoe 

Post#39 » by BroncoBuck » Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:45 am

Buyer beware. Bledsoe's knees can't have much tread left
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Post#40 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Wed Nov 23, 2016 2:11 am

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