PAUL GEORGE

[MOUNTAINDAVE]

With the Lakers unexpected start, I know there are people thinking the playoffs are a shot this year, which would be a one or two year jump from what most expected. Would it make sense to jump start things for the starting unit and make this trade, which in my opinion would increase their odds of making the playoffs this year by a wide margin. Lakers give up Calderon (salary), Nance and Ingram for Paul George. You put him in that starting lineup instead of Deng and then have a go to guy every night, as well as a defensive stopper at multiple positions. The bench would not be affected as much as one might think. Clarkson/Williams are still going to be the top bench duo in the NBA and Deng will slide to power forward against second unit guys so he could in theory average 10 a game since he is more comfortable at the 4 at this stage of his career. I think they would still have the best bench in the NBA but their starting five would be so much better. Of course, you are mortgaging the possible star that Ingraham might become. For the Pacers, that would signal starting over and I guess it would be a matter of could they get more for George from some other team.

Thoughts???

[Mirjalovic]

i'll still keep Ingram. I really high on Ingram, he's raw as hell now as NBA player but in term actual skills, he's pretty skilled and can do everything offensively. He is already a good all around player. All he needs is NBA body, and NBA 3pt range. It will come to him slowly and steady while he developing the playmaking and defense skills.

Wait 1 or 2 years from now, when his body developed or when he can adjust to the NBA, he will be the most dangerous scorer in the world.

this is why i love raw players. Julius Randle last season was raw as hell, but i saw something in his heart that make him dangerous if he keep working to hone that raw skills, and see Julius Randle now, and he still raw ! Imagine what happen next few years for both of them.

[One Love]

We will have an opportunity to make a move around the All Star Break once some good teams realize they are out of the mix & I think Luke will push for it... Luke wants to WIN... He has always been a WINNER...

[Kilroy]

Wouldn't trade Ingram for anyone right now I don't think. I've seen enough of him to think he's worth giving another year to develop before trading him... Even for PG... You can't under-estimate his rookie deal or the few extra years we'll get from him than we would with PG...
I wouldn't trade for George unless we got someone like Cousins too, because I think we'd need to give up too much for George to remain a good team, but if we got cousins for without giving up randle or Ingram I might consider shipping one of those guys for George.

[MrWaffles]

We don't trade for ANYONE that's contract is about to expire. Period.

PG will be a free agent in 2018. He loves Indiana and his home in Indy. He wants to win a championship, he's made that very clear. I assume he's going to give Larry one more year to put together a roster that can compete for a championship (won't happen)

We should wait until 2018 to talk to PG. He will be a free agent and we will have around 48 million dollars to spend. Almost enough for PG and Cousins (who will also be a free agent). We all know PG's favorite player of all time is Kobe Bryant. He also is from California and has a house out there. If our core continues to grow and win, then i think we have a shot.

Bottom line, don't trade young talent for soon to be expiring contracts. Larry is the most stuck up GM in the NBA. No way in the world would he trade PG unless it was for Russell,Clarkson, Randle, Ingram, Nance. He would want everyone of our kids. He's killing the Pacers franchise curently and the Pacer fans still stick with him.

*I live 40 minutes south of Indy

[Slimreaper703]

I am surprisingly very high on Ingram as well.
His stats might not be the most impressive so far But every-time i watch him the potential is just unreal.

[Slava]

It'll take Ingram and Russell to even get Bird to answer the phone. He will also like to dump Ellis on us.

[DEEP3CL]

I think people who make these types of trade proposals don't understand the deal takes two GM's agreeing on such deal.

This tells me you don't understand Larry Bird was a Celtic, and to my count Mitch has only dealt with an ex Celtic player ONCE....that's when he dumped off a used up ass Gary Payton and broke down Rick Fox to Danny Anige who was desperate as a whore waiting on the street at the time.

Neither team got nothing out of that trade. Bottom line this isn't even jumping off and first rule is you don't trade for guys coming off contracts soon.

[ALL HAIL]

I'd do that deal for A. Davis.

Centers who are both defensive anchors and offensive threats are harder to come by than swingmen like George.

[LAKESHOW]

There's gotta be some untouchables on our roster. Who would that be? Not everyone should be up for trade in every single trade discussion. If we dont have that type of player in our team now, we will never win a title. Because u have to build around a core.

[Tee212]

pg will be one of those players that by the time hes on the lakers his career is basically done.

[dAdo dA dEvil]

Just for the sake of argument, I like PG and if we ever trade for him I would offer a package centered on DLo and not on Ingram. I'm high on Ingram now. If the Pacers insist on Ingram I'll just wait and try PG on Free Agency. PG and Ingram together would be crazy.

[PurpleGold]

Just for the sake of argument, I like PG and if we ever trade for him I would offer a package centered on DLo and not on Ingram. I'm high on Ingram now. If the Pacers insist on Ingram I'll just wait and try PG on Free Agency. PG and Ingram together would be crazy.

Not gonna lie, I'm getting hard just thinking about how good we'd be defensively with PG & Ingram.
But yeah I agree with most of you, it isn't worth the risk of giving up the talent we have , even for a guy as good as PG... and I'm a huge PG fan.

[dAdo dA dEvil]

Just for the sake of argument, I like PG and if we ever trade for him I would offer a package centered on DLo and not on Ingram. I'm high on Ingram now. If the Pacers insist on Ingram I'll just wait and try PG on Free Agency. PG and Ingram together would be crazy.

Not gonna lie, I'm getting hard just thinking about how good we'd be defensively with PG & Ingram.
But yeah I agree with most of you, it isn't worth the risk of giving up the talent we have , even for a guy as good as PG... and I'm a huge PG fan.

PG is a sold 2 way player. Ingram right now is showing that he could defend and showing good basketball decisions offensively. I'll just wait till he develops an NBA body and see if he will be a legit threat offensively. PG and Ingram on the wing will be very solid if Ingram becomes a solid 2 way player like PG. Plus all that length will be a match up problem for opponents every night.

[danfantastk32]

I'd like to wait at least until the end of the season to get a better idea of what players are what before we start breaking the band up for star players.

I think it would be much smarter to wait, and let the action come to us. We aren't "a piece away" right now. There's no urgency. Nobody's window is closing right now. We might wanna force something in a couple years...but for now, let's wait and see what becomes available. If we could get someone like PG in 2 years without giving up anyone....how great would that be?

So why trade potentially great players when we are in no need right now? Thats my opinion

[Princeinrevolt]

Guys our Last free agency that we can offer a max will most likely be the summer of 2018... because that is when we have to start paying our young core (Julius Randle first), and he is going to get a good amount of money... By then we'll have two years for both deng and timofey... Maybe we will be able to trade them, but im going to just say that we probably won't until they are at least an expiring contract... Lakers are way ahead of schedule right now in developing their core... and if we keep progressing the next two years... I think we have a legit case in bringing Paul George over... and maybe we can pair him with another max... Maybe Cousins, some people think he is a mental case, but i honestly think its because of the situation he is in... The Kings are very bad, and they have been bad for a very long time.... At that point if we want to get him, we will probably need to trade deng or timofey... We will have to give up some assets but its something worth doing for a superstar... Keep your head up Lakers Fans.... Our future is very bright!!! Imagine a starting lineup of D'angelo, George, Ingram, Randle, Cousins... Our bench would be Clarkson, Williams (or someone else), Nance Jr., Black, Deng.... I also hope Mitch Kupchak and Jim Buss continue doing a great job in drafting players, that would really help our depth in the future also!!


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[RingsDontLie]

With the Lakers unexpected start, I know there are people thinking the playoffs are a shot this year, which would be a one or two year jump from what most expected. Would it make sense to jump start things for the starting unit and make this trade, which in my opinion would increase their odds of making the playoffs this year by a wide margin. Lakers give up Calderon (salary), Nance and Ingram for Paul George.

Thoughts???

I've thought about it, but Ingram has to be off the table. PG isn't taking this team to a championship, but Ingram reaching his ceiling can absolutely make us contenders. I'm thinking more like D'angelo/Deng for PG.

Otherwise stand pat. We are going to keep improving every season with this core. And it's ok if we have to wait like Golden State did with their young core.

[miggs]

I say no trades with the kids like russell, ingram, clarkson and randle. Nance only in the right deal with more assets to get a star player otherwise keep em all and add to them via free agency. We're going to be one of the hottest destinations imo in 2 seasons, so that summer of 2018 has big potential.

My targets are for the starting SG/SF and C roles...

1. Trade low for Nerlens Noel
2. 2018 FA - Paul George
3. 2019 FA - Klay Thompson
4. 2019 FA - Nikola Jokic
5. 2020 FA - Anthony Davis

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