Otto Porter Part 2

[WizarDynasty]

Dude, thanks for posting these weekly recaps in your sig. I've watched all of them, they're really riveting.

WizNasty your girl is a terrible camera person. You really make her watch all your damn games? Shoot, bad enough she's gotta hear about it allatime I bet But that lil kid is cute though.

god bless her for sitting there and filming all of those horrible pickup games.

This thread is about Otto Porter and how we are pretending to be realgms ...or pretending to be real general managers. Real general managers. A GM getting paid 5 million dollars a year could care less about pick up games.

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WizNasty your girl is a terrible camera person. You really make her watch all your damn games? Shoot, bad enough she's gotta hear about it allatime I bet But that lil kid is cute though.

god bless her for sitting there and filming all of those horrible pickup games.

This thread is about Otto Porter and how we are pretending to be realgms ...or pretending to be real general managers. Real general managers. A GM getting paid 5 million dollars a year could care less about pick up games.

How many points are you averaging?

[WizarDynasty]

Otto Porter is a system guy, he gots good length but not elite length. He is 6'8 with a 8'10 standing reach, which is good but not elite. Durant standing reach is 9'2. He got good wingspan 7'1 but not elite 7'4 of kevin durant. He has poor lateral speed, he can't shuffle quickly laterally stop and instantaneously flip his hips to defend a crossover change of direction. He will nebutver be a lockdown defender that ariza was. He has decent mid range jumpshot and three point shot if left wide open but he can't change speeds while dribbling, he doesn't have a burst with a the dribble and crossover. He doesn't have lightening footwork in the post and he can't stop his momentum and force his defender out position to foul him to stop and easy shot.
But let's make no mistake about, Otto is going to pull a bradley beal and ask for a max contract. Bradley Beal if healthy---which we know won't be the case because he has pigeon knees knocked knee has the tool for a short period to do all the the things i mentioned. He can't sustain a high level because he will get injured his body can't take the stress of handling this loads over multiple games. His knees are not built for it. Otto on the other hand is a very very poor man's trevor ariza with better cutting ability.
He works hard but he can't be relied on the carry the team in the last five minutes of crunch time. when the shot clock is winding down, he doesn't have an unstoppable high percentage move that will get him to line to keep us in the game. He will be asking for a max contract.
It was very difficult to get the overall 3 pick and now we face as situation where both choices with this asset put the organization at significant disadvantage. We over pay for a role player that is not a signficant difference maker or we lose the number 3 overall pick which we had get ping pong balls to fall just right to even have a chance at. Wouldn't it be nice if we were having this discussion about the greek freak--giannis instead of otto porter?

[stevemcqueen1]

This is weird but I find myself in agreement with part of WizD's post. Otto does have limited lateral speed and doesn't show a quick first step and ability to change speeds with the ball in his hands. Totally disagree that those are the only ways to be a good scorer, much less a good player. There are a lot of high value players making max or near max money that are not quality individual shot creators.

Otto does have a good high post game and he's not just a good mid range shooter, he is a great mid range shooter. And Otto is a terrific finisher around the basket. He makes up for weak on ball defense by being a high level team defender. He's a passing lane hawk and a quality weak side helper for a SF. Also you don't have to have great lateral speed to stay in front of guys on the perimeter. You can win with strength, length, and anticipation. Sato isn't some burner but he is a good stopper because he's disciplined and knows how to use his length to recover when he gets out of position.

And just because Otto doesn't have Kevin Durant length doesn't mean he doesn't have great length for the position. He has PF height and he's going to be a mismatch for most SFs. Otto grew up playing center and he brings that mentality and skillset to the SF position. He is excellent on the boards and excellent at playing in the paint and as he gets older and stronger his back to basket game is going to be a load for SFs to stop.

Also Otto is way better than Trevor Ariza. Trevor couldn't dribble the ball at all. Even straight line drives catching a defender closing out too hard were an adventure for him. And he couldn't shoot until his late 20's.

Otto is a championship caliber glue guy. He looks like he can already be a quality third option scorer for a good team. We're not letting him walk for nothing this summer, that'd be crazy.

[nuposse04]

If Porter is a "system" player and is producing at the level he is, on a team that is DEVOID of any discernible or coherent system... I'd say that speaks to his upside.

[WizarDynasty]

If Porter is a "system" player and is producing at the level he is, on a team that is DEVOID of any discernible or coherent system... I'd say that speaks to his upside.

He isn't getting to the line alot, most of his shots come because a is leaving him wide open to help on another man. I wouldn't call that upside. Again, Otto is doing his job which is to hit wide open jumpers. He scores when his defender is out position due to work by another player on the team. Otto is not forcing anyone to double him. No team is worrying about Otto needing to double in the post or on the defender. No team will ever have to game plan to stop otto porter. that is otto porter's upside.
We can't put Otto Porter on the another team's star player and otto completely neutralize him. If Otto was a shut down defender and control the game defensively, then he would have great upside...Hassan Whiteside.
Again, Otto does his job, but doesn't take over the game in our favor consistently during crunch time. Sure he has moments when he grabs a board out of the blue, or he gets a steal but he isn't dennis rodman grabbing 15 boards a night off pure hustle and skill.
If otto has a quick first step, which you can't teach...that is upside. If he has quick first step and learns to improve his dribble then he can always gain an advantage offensively which significantly gives your team an advantage on EVERY play. He will never have a quick first step.
He has doesn't have good body control ..meaning he can't stop on a dime while dribbling the basketball. that would be upside. He is a hardworker, he knows that he has to rely on others to create an offensive advantage.
I like that he can slide and shoot a midrange jumper after a pump fake but he needs his defender to be sagging off him helping out in order for him to get this shot. Again, otto can't be relied on to get the free throw line ten times a game for a whole season. He never will be able to do this. that is a tremendous limit to his upside.
Hardworker but a max or near max player should be able to take over a game at will if need be. If he demands more than average for a small forward, then he should be traded before he becomes a negative asset. Meaning that his ceiling is well below what he is being paid. Otto can't be given the ball one on one against a top 4 playoff team and expected to score without heavy assistance.
Otto can't be put a top playoff teams best offensive player and asked to shut him down. This would be Otto taking over the game defensively.
Now you can say the market set's his price, but Wizards don't have a proven core that can get deep into playoffs. When otto proves that he can take over games against top playoff teams, then we know he is close to max player. He has never done it consistently and he can't because he isn't close to being a max or near max player.

[Hidden Eye]

If Porter is a "system" player and is producing at the level he is, on a team that is DEVOID of any discernible or coherent system... I'd say that speaks to his upside.

He isn't getting to the line alot, most of his shots come because a is leaving him wide open to help on another man. I wouldn't call that upside. Again, Otto is doing his job which is to hit wide open jumpers. He scores when his defender is out position due to work by another player on the team. Otto is not forcing anyone to double him. No team is worrying about Otto needing to double in the post or on the defender. No team will ever have to game plan to stop otto porter. that is otto porter's upside.
We can't put Otto Porter on the another team's star player and otto completely neutralize him. If Otto was a shut down defender and control the game defensively, then he would have great upside...Hassan Whiteside.
Again, Otto does his job, but doesn't take over the game in our favor consistently during crunch time. Sure he has moments when he grabs a board out of the blue, or he gets a steal but he isn't dennis rodman grabbing 15 boards a night off pure hustle and skill.
If otto has a quick first step, which you can't teach...that is upside. If he has quick first step and learns to improve his dribble then he can always gain an advantage offensively which significantly gives your team an advantage on EVERY play. He will never have a quick first step.
He has doesn't have good body control ..meaning he can't stop on a dime while dribbling the basketball. that would be upside. He is a hardworker, he knows that he has to rely on others to create an offensive advantage.
I like that he can slide and shoot a midrange jumper after a pump fake but he needs his defender to be sagging off him helping out in order for him to get this shot. Again, otto can't be relied on to get the free throw line ten times a game for a whole season. He never will be able to do this. that is a tremendous limit to his upside.
Hardworker but a max or near max player should be able to take over a game at will if need be. If he demands more than average for a small forward, then he should be traded before he becomes a negative asset. Meaning that his ceiling is well below what he is being paid. Otto can't be given the ball one on one against a top 4 playoff team and expected to score without heavy assistance.
Otto can't be put a top playoff teams best offensive player and asked to shut him down. This would be Otto taking over the game defensively.
Now you can say the market set's his price, but Wizards don't have a proven core that can get deep into playoffs. When otto proves that he can take over games against top playoff teams, then we know he is close to max player. He has never done it consistently and he can't because he isn't close to being a max or near max player.

Why you have a Pacers Logo?

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WizNasty your girl is a terrible camera person. You really make her watch all your damn games? Shoot, bad enough she's gotta hear about it allatime I bet But that lil kid is cute though.

god bless her for sitting there and filming all of those horrible pickup games.

This thread is about Otto Porter and how we are pretending to be realgms ...or pretending to be real general managers. Real general managers. A GM getting paid 5 million dollars a year could care less about pick up games.

I bet you always wear long pants in your games because you're covering up how little you got in the way of bowleggedness.

[TGW]

god bless her for sitting there and filming all of those horrible pickup games.

This thread is about Otto Porter and how we are pretending to be realgms ...or pretending to be real general managers. Real general managers. A GM getting paid 5 million dollars a year could care less about pick up games.

I bet you always wear long pants in your games because you're covering up how little you got in the way of bowleggedness.

[WizarDynasty]

I bet you always wear long pants in your games because you're covering up how little you got in the way of bowleggedness

[nate33]

This Board predicted beal or porter could get to the line 10 times per game on draft nite. no injury and highrefficiency.

I'd like for you to find one post where somebody said that. And I guarantee that there was nothing resembling a board consensus that we believed that.

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Right now, Otto Porter is the best player on the Washington Wizards. By a lot not a little.

If we had a starting SG and a starting PF playing at the level & # of minutes of Otto Porter, instead of being 3-8 we'd be 8-3, maybe even 9-2.

Without question, we'd have won the Grizzlies, Magic, Rockets & Sixers games, and we'd have won at least one of the (first) Hawks, Raptors & Cavs games.

The best player on the team is the player who completed the most "and one" plays.
http://www.82games.com/andone.htm And one play means that your defender was forced to foul you and you were so skilled that you absorbed his contact and still scored. Which ever player has the most and one plays is usually the best player on the team.

All we need to do is rank the number of total FTA for the season and that tells you who is the best player on the team.

And the final metric is the player who has shot the highest percentage on the team within the final 5 seconds before shot clock violation.

Finally the clutch stat. http://www.82games.com/1516/CSORT11.HTM Which of our players ranks within the top 20 in the league?

Then look at the number of turnovers generated. Steals. Combine these stats and it paints a pretty clear picture.

Classic. No, sorry, none of that tells you who the best player on a team is.

The best player on a team is the player who has contributed the most to wins. Wins are all that matter. "Good" in a competitive activity means "winning" & nothing else.

So far this year, the best player on the Wizards is Otto Porter -- by a lot not a little. Yes, Wall is playing very well -- statistically he's at the same level as last year, but his usage has gone up, and nate is right that usage should be considered.

Thing is... usage relates to only 1 part of the game: scoring. That John has increased his eFG% from last year while taking 15% more shots is great. That he's gotten to the line almost 60% more often while increasing his FT% is even greater.

But scoring isn't all of the game. It's just what fans & "the eye test" both favor -- it's the most entertaining part of the game.

Take a look at everything Otto does. Just for example, if you add his rebounds and steals and then subtract his turnovers, he adds 12.9 possessions for the team per 48 minutes. John's number in that combination is 2.4. Brad's is 2.8.

To put it in an example: Beal's game last night was tremendous, we all agree. But Porter's game against the Celtics was waaay better than Brad's game last night even though he scored 8 fewer points. Basically, if a guy puts up a night like Porter's vs. Boston, you are hard-pressed to lose the game because it's so amazing productive everywhere and at such a high level of efficiency (& we won by 25). Brad's game last night was also a big part of why we won, but it was close and against a much worse team.

This is *not* to criticize John Wall's season so far -- the opposite. Nor to express skepticism about Beal; if he keeps it up, awesome! Just to direct attention to the incredible season Otto is putting up. And of all those guys, he is the one you'd think likely to have the most improvement in his future. Otto Porter is going to be a star.

[WizarDynasty]

Right now, Otto Porter is the best player on the Washington Wizards. By a lot not a little.

If we had a starting SG and a starting PF playing at the level & # of minutes of Otto Porter, instead of being 3-8 we'd be 8-3, maybe even 9-2.

Without question, we'd have won the Grizzlies, Magic, Rockets & Sixers games, and we'd have won at least one of the (first) Hawks, Raptors & Cavs games.

The best player on the team is the player who completed the most "and one" plays.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:U0fmzhwZdv8J:www.82games.com/andone.htm+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=usAnd one play means that your defender was forced to foul you and you were so skilled that you absorbed his contact and still scored. Which ever player has the most and one plays is usually the best player on the team.

All we need to do is rank the number of total FTA for the season and that tells you who is the best player on the team.

And the final metric is the player who has shot the highest percentage on the team within the final 5 seconds before shot clock violation.

Finally the clutch stat. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:QCKDHalewUYJ:www.82games.com/1516/CSORT11.HTM+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us Which of our players ranks within the top 20 in the league?

Then look at the number of turnovers generated. Steals. Combine these stats and it paints a pretty clear picture.

Classic. No, sorry, none of that tells you who the best player on a team is.

The best player on a team is the player who has contributed the most to wins. Wins are all that matter. "Good" in a competitive activity means "winning" & nothing else.

So far this year, the best player on the Wizards is Otto Porter -- by a lot not a little. Yes, Wall is playing very well -- statistically he's at the same level as last year, but his usage has gone up, and nate is right that usage should be considered.

Thing is... usage relates to only 1 part of the game: scoring. That John has increased his eFG% from last year while taking 15% more shots is great. That he's gotten to the line almost 60% more often while increasing his FT% is even greater.

But scoring isn't all of the game. It's just what fans & "the eye test" both favor -- it's the most entertaining part of the game.

Take a look at everything Otto does. Just for example, if you add his rebounds and steals and then subtract his turnovers, he adds 12.9 possessions for the team per 48 minutes. John's number in that combination is 2.4. Brad's is 2.8.

To put it in an example: Beal's game last night was tremendous, we all agree. But Porter's game against the Celtics was waaay better than Brad's game last night even though he scored 8 fewer points. Basically, if a guy puts up a night like Porter's vs. Boston, you are hard-pressed to lose the game because it's so amazing productive everywhere and at such a high level of efficiency (& we won by 25). Brad's game last night was also a big part of why we won, but it was close and against a much worse team.

This is *not* to criticize John Wall's season so far -- the opposite. Nor to express skepticism about Beal; if he keeps it up, awesome! Just to direct attention to the incredible season Otto is putting up. And of all those guys, he is the one you'd think likely to have the most improvement in his future. Otto Porter is going to be a star.

You win by scoring more points than your opponent. FTA is the highest percentage shot in the game. The player with the most FTA attempts for the season on your team is your best player 90 percent of the time. Obviously if you have a guy who rebounds like Dennis Rodman--take a look at his stats-- the number of new offensive possession that he gives your team-- is almost as powerful as shooting the highest percentage shot in the game. A FTA. If otto was reducing the opponents field goal percentage dramatically with shot blocking...blocking 3- 4 shots a game for a whole season.
Porter can't get to line at will and he doesn't have the tools to dominate any defensive stat for a whole season. I don't understand how Otto can he even be in the question. He is a support player that relies on his team mates to draw his defender away from him. Otto hardworker but can't create an advantage for his team consistently and that is what you need consistently throughout 82 games to get a high playoff seed and over the years become a dynasty.

FTA is far more valuable than a defensive rebound. FTA is far more important than an assist. NOt all stats are weighted equally. FTA or free throw attempt Total for the entire season is the most valuable statistic for wins. Whichever player generates the most of these is your most valuable player. If he generates 500 or more, he is probably an allstar. Now if you have defensive player on pace for 200 plus steals a season, allstar. If the player is on pace for 250 plus blocks for season, allstar. If the player is on pace for over 850 assist, allstar. if player is on pace for over 280 3pointers for season allstar. If the player on pace for 1100 plus total rebounds probably allstar. We have no one on this team who is projected to average these numbers for an entire season but the teams with true allstars have these players and true max contract players have them. the good teams who have a good chance of becoming dynasties. An there is absolutely no way to trade for one of these players.

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Two statistical savants going at it. I love it

[WizarDynasty]

i would extend satoransky right now for longest amount of time possible. He is sick with that crossover for how tall he is. I would sign him as cheap as possible for as longest as possible as soon as possible. He is way higher priority than otto. get him on a 5 year deal this summer, and just forget about otto who is a dime a dozen. Sato is a true building block that you absolutely don't want to get away and lock him into franchise for cheap for a long time.

[nate33]

i would extend satoransky right now for longest amount of time possible. He is sick with that crossover for how tall he is. I would sign him as cheap as possible for as longest as possible as soon as possible. He is way higher priority than otto. get him on a 5 year deal this summer, and just forget about otto who is a dime a dozen. Sato is a true building block that you absolutely don't want to get away and lock him into franchise for cheap for a long time.

I like Sato and would happily extend him, but he is not as good as Otto. Sato can't shoot like Otto nor rebound like him. He also can't play spot minutes at PF, which gives us a lot of flexibility. Right now, Otto is an above-average starter at his position - certainly a top 12 SF and arguably a top 8 SF. Sato is merely an adequate bench player. Sato should get a bit better as he gets acclimated to the NBA game, but let's not forget that he is 2 years older than Otto.

Sato is locked up to an absurdly cheap contract until Summer 2019.

[WizarDynasty]

i would extend satoransky right now for longest amount of time possible. He is sick with that crossover for how tall he is. I would sign him as cheap as possible for as longest as possible as soon as possible. He is way higher priority than otto. get him on a 5 year deal this summer, and just forget about otto who is a dime a dozen. Sato is a true building block that you absolutely don't want to get away and lock him into franchise for cheap for a long time.

I like Sato and would happily extend him, but he is not as good as Otto. Sato can't shoot like Otto nor rebound like him. He also can't play spot minutes at PF, which gives us a lot of flexibility. Right now, Otto is an above-average starter at his position - certainly a top 12 SF and arguably a top 8 SF. Sato is merely an adequate bench player. Sato should get a bit better as he gets acclimated to the NBA game, but let's not forget that he is 2 years older than Otto.

Sato is locked up to an absurdly cheap contract until Summer 2019.

How many times did our above average starter small forward get to the line against the spurs today. Wow arguably top 8 SF. Porter is joke. Until he shows me he can get to line consistently against top 4 playoff caliber teams.

[nate33]

How many times did our above average starter small forward get to the line against the spurs today. Wow arguably top 8 SF. Porter is joke. Until he shows me he can get to line consistently against top 4 playoff caliber teams.

Porter had the highest ORtg and highest DRtg on the team last night. He scored 14 points on just 8 shots for a TS% of .875. He was the 2nd best rebounder after Gortat, and got the most steals - all while being matched up against an MVP candidate and DPOY.

Porter is not a 1st option or 2nd option scorer. But as a 3rd/4th option guy, he is fantastic. He scores very efficiency in the flow of the offense without committing turnovers. He rebounds very well for a SF and plays the best help defense on the team.

Your fetish with FTA's is tedious. Sure, FTA's are good, but not everybody on the team can dominate the ball enough to generate FTA's. There are other ways to help a team. I think Otto Porter wiill have a career as an uber role player similar to a poor man's Shawn Marion. Shawn Marion is a likely HOFer with a career average of just 3.7 FTA's per 100 possessions.

Here are Marion's peak numbers:


Here is Porter right now:


In a year or two, I figure Porter will shift to being a mostly full-time PF, at which point, most of his numbers will improve even more. His rebounds and blocks will go up since he'll be closer to the rim on defense, and he'll score a bit more when being chased by slower power forwards.

[WizarDynasty]

Absolutely disappointed in the analysis of this board. Porter is the worst in the league at the most important statistic. FTA.

I have posted FTA for all players who have logged minutes at the small forward position and otto ranks 58th. This is absolutely disgusting. There are 32 teams and our bar is so low for how we evaluate a player that we actually think Otto is a good player. Look at all of the players in the league 58 players who have more FTA. Otto has been to line 25 times. I repeat 25 times. Nick young has gotten to the line more times than otto and he isn't even a starter. We mock EG on this board but the realgms seem to give very little weight to this most important statistic.

Porter has a lousy 28 attempts for the whole season that he has contributed to his team. We have the worst record in our division. There is a huge correlation between the

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1   J. Harden Hou - PG,SG,SF   175
2   D. DeRozan Tor - SG,SF   152
3   J. Butler Chi - SG,SF   151
4   A. Wiggins Min - SG,SF   129
5   K. Leonard SA - SG,SF   120
6   K. Durant GS - SF,PF   111
7   G. Antetokounmpo Mil - PG,SG,SF   94
8   L. James Cle - SF,PF   93
9   D. Gallinari Den - SF   88
10   R. Gay Sac - SF,PF   85
11   E. Fournier Orl - SG,SF   73
12   C. Anthony NY - SF,PF   68
13   H. Barnes Dal - SF,PF   62
14   G. Hayward Uta - SG,SF   60
15   N. Batum Cha - SG,SF   59
16   J. Parker Mil - SF,PF   58
17   T. Harris Det - SF,PF   57
18   M. Kidd-Gilchrist Cha - SF   52
19   W. Chandler Den - SG,SF   51
20   D. Green GS - SF,PF   47
21   D. Waiters Mia - SG,SF   46
22   M. Morris Was - SF,PF,C   45
23   B. Bogdanovic Bkn - SG,SF   45
24   R. Hood Uta - SG,SF   45
25   T. Jones NO - SF,PF   45
26   T. Warren Pho - SF   44
27   R. Hollis-Jefferson Bkn - SG,SF   44
28   P. George Ind - SF,PF   43
29   J. Crawford LAC - SG,SF   41
30   N. Mirotic Chi - SF,PF   41
31   B. Ingram LAL - SF   40
32   K. Thompson GS - SG,SF   39
33   J. Johnson Mia - SF,PF   39
34   K. Bazemore Atl - SG,SF   38
35   W. Matthews Dal - SG,SF   38
36   P. Tucker Pho - SG,SF   38
37   J. Ennis Mem - SG,SF   36
38   J. Grant OKC - SF,PF   36
39   J. Simmons SA - SG,SF   34
40   J. Green Orl - SG,SF   34
41   A. Gordon Orl - SF,PF   34
42   N. Young LAL - SG,SF   34
43   J. Anderson Dal - SF   33
44   T. Hardaway Jr. Atl - SG,SF   33
45   A. Afflalo Sac - SG,SF   33
46   R. Covington Phi - SF,PF   31
47   V. Carter Mem - SG,SF   31
48   M. Morris Det - SF,PF   30
49   L. Richard Mbah a Moute LAC - SF,PF   29
50   E. Ilyasova Phi - SF,PF   28
51   J. Dudley Pho - SG,SF,PF   28
52   S. Muhammad Min - SG,SF   28
53   S. Hill NO - SG,SF   28
54   E. Turner Por - SG,SF   28
55   J. Brown Bos - SF   27
56   W. Barton Den - SG,SF   26
57   M. Belinelli Cha - SG,SF   26
58   O. Porter Was - SF   25


Beal is not much better in terms of the most important stat. He ranked 22nd for all players who have logged minutes at the sg position. How can you ever consider yourself a playoff team if your scorers don't rank in the top 10 at their position in FTA. Can we up this discussion for the real gm's on this board to figure out how to get at least a top 10 FTA player for his position.

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2   D. DeRozan Tor - SG,SF   152
3   J. Butler Chi - SG,SF   151
4   A. Wiggins Min - SG,SF   129
5   K. Leonard SA - SG,SF   120
6   E. Bledsoe Pho - PG,SG   111
7   G. Antetokounmpo Mil - PG,SG,SF   94
8   S. Curry GS - PG,SG   85
9   L. Williams LAL - PG,SG   80
10   E. Fournier Orl - SG,SF   73
11   D. Booker Pho - SG   69
12   S. Kilpatrick Bkn - PG,SG   68
13   C. McCollum Por - PG,SG   67
14   D. Wade Chi - PG,SG   62
15   G. Hayward Uta - SG,SF   60
16   N. Batum Cha - SG,SF   59
17   GTD   
18   T. Johnson Mia - PG,SG   59
19   B. Knight Pho - PG,SG   58
20   K. Caldwell-Pope Det - SG   51
21   W. Chandler Den - SG,SF   51
22   B. Beal Was - SG   51

Wall has 87 FTA

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1   R. Westbrook OKC - PG   192
2   J. Harden Hou - PG,SG,SF   175
3   D. Lillard Por - PG   164
4   I. Thomas Bos - PG   145
5   E. Bledsoe Pho - PG,SG   111
6   K. Walker Cha - PG   98
7   G. Antetokounmpo Mil - PG,SG,SF   94
8   C. Paul LAC - PG   94
9   M. Conley Mem - PG   87
10   J. Wall Was - PG   87

But that is a tremendous problem when your point guard who distributes the ball is also the only one on his team ranked in the top ten at FTA for players who logged minutes at the point guard position.

The wizards are in a disastrous position with NO foreseeable players on the roster in the foreseeable future that are even sniffing top 10 at their position for FTA. This is a result of disastrous moves. FTA for the entire season....not FTA average per game...paints the perfect picture of this team future. very very very bleak. Now can any genius pretend realgm figure out a way for us to get at least two players who can rank top ten in FTA per game at their position. Beal is ranked 22 out of players who have logged minutes at the sg position. He has never in the past come close to top ten FTA for players who have logged minutes at the sg position and he is 22nd now. 22 players who have logged minutes at sg position are better than beal at getting to line. this is a disastrous if Beal is your primary scorer. Westbrook who is basically john wall has 100 more FTA in the same amount of games as wall.

YOU as the pretend GM must figure out a way to bring in Players who can possibly be ranked top 10 in FTA at their position? Total Free Throw Attempts, not average FTA per game because a player who is injured isn't helping their team. Total Free Throw ATTEMPTS for the season is the most important STAT. That is the challenge. YOu can give weight to defensive rebounds, steals, or even three pointers, but show me a list a players by FTA for the entire season and YOu will see that the teams they belong too are usually a top 4 playoff seed team. That is the challenge pretend GM's. Can you meet the challenge?

What trades can we execute to bring in a top 10 FTA for minutes logged at his position or is this impossible? This is what a great GM does and why he earns his salary.

are we talking about the rail think with no lower body strength otto porter playing powerforward full time. The guy can't get to the free throw line to save his life. That should let you know that most of his shots are being generated for him. Athletically comparing shawn marion (the matrix-suns) to otto porter is like comparing michael jordan to bradley beal. Otto Porter has never shown that he can get to line consistently and Shawn Marion did.

I would suggest choosing a comparable tweener who couldn't get to line consistently but was still paid max or near max contract. Marion was an elite defensive player. Otto is a very poor poor poor man's Marion. Definitely not Marion in his prime. Otto can't can't even be a secondary scorer because he can't get to the free throw line during crunch time. Otto is a hardworker but you need talent in order to playoff seeds ranked 1-4. Giving Otto a near max contract when you don't have primary go to guy during crunch time is a very very bad move.

[tontoz]

On the season Porter is averaging 14.7/8.1 with 2 steals. His TS is 62% and his ORTG is 127.

Among 3s he ranks 7th in TS, 6th in rebounding rate, 8th in PER, 7th in lowest turnover rate and 4th in steals per game.