Political Roundtable Part XI

[Kanyewest]

Republicans complaining about voter fraud is funny. The whole electoral college system is fraud on its own to help Republicans win the presidential race. Republican Congress members who will shoot down DC becoming a State is also voter fraud because they want to continue to suppress DC residents and their ability to get representation. Think about this, if there was a bill which gave people a day off to vote or made it mandatory that everyone votes, who will shoot down that proposal? Now think about why Republicans will shoot down that bill. It is because they understand that Republicans will never win office again, or at least in their current version of governing. Elected officials are supposed to work for the people and be the voice of the people. Meanwhile Republicans want to make it difficult for the people to voice their concerns through voting. Once again voting fraud.

I am neither democrat or republican because I know that the system is screwed up due to both of these parties. The difference between the two parties is that one at least tries/pretends to look out for the people.

I am going to finish this rant by saying I will probably never check this thread again as it has gotten me very heated and I know if I do check it again I will probably check it every hour and not get anything done at work or in life. And it will not be a healthy routine for me (probably will kick start my bouts with Alopecia).

US territories like Puerto Rico, Guam, and US Virgin Island should also be considered for representation.

I also agree that something is messed up with the US Representative system. One big problem is that now 2 million people voted for Hillary. Yet the Republicans still control the house of representatives by a significant margin. The Democrats could only control the house if they win a general election by 6 to 7%.

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[nate33]

I am going to finish this rant by saying I will probably never check this thread again as it has gotten me very heated and I know if I do check it again I will probably check it every hour and not get anything done at work or in life. And it will not be a healthy routine for me (probably will kick start my bouts with Alopecia).

I get it. I've had to disengage from this thread from time to time as well.

[Wizardspride]

Republicans complaining about voter fraud is funny. The whole electoral college system is fraud on its own to help Republicans win the presidential race. Republican Congress members who will shoot down DC becoming a State is also voter fraud because they want to continue to suppress DC residents and their ability to get representation. Think about this, if there was a bill which gave people a day off to vote or made it mandatory that everyone votes, who will shoot down that proposal? Now think about why Republicans will shoot down that bill. It is because they understand that Republicans will never win office again, or at least in their current version of governing.

Heck, even most Republicans I know acknowledge when more people vote Democrats usually win.


I know Dems are pissed but they need to look in the mirror.

Hillary had every advantage and still couldn't beat Trump.

Heck, she had every advantage against Obama (initially) and couldn't beat him either.

Bottomline: Hillary is/was just a terrible campaigner. I actually think she would have been a good President but just a terrible campaigner.

[DCZards]

Any alleged voter fraud that might benefit Democrats pales in comparison to the intentional, well-documented, mean-spirited, often racist voter suppression regularly practiced by the Republicans.

[nate33]

Any alleged voter fraud that might benefit Democrats pales in comparison to the intentional, well-documented, mean-spirited, often racist voter suppression regularly practiced by the Republicans.

Believe it or not, I think this is a fair point. There is no question that Republicans gain an advantage through ruthless gerrymandering, at least with respect to congressional seats.

[nate33]

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A notable point. Trump, with very little support from his own party apparatus, and with significant opposition from major figures like Romney and the Bushes, has the most Republican votes ever. The #NeverTrumpers have been resoundingly defeated.

[closg00]

Any alleged voter fraud that might benefit Democrats pales in comparison to the intentional, well-documented, mean-spirited, often racist voter suppression regularly practiced by the Republicans.

North Carolina being THE worst, look at what's happening in that state, one of THE bright spots in the election was the defeat of Govenor McCrory (although he is tying to steal it)

With Sessions as AG, voter suppression will be a top priority of Republicans as they try win with whit votes in the next Presidential election.

[Induveca]

Republicans complaining about voter fraud is funny. The whole electoral college system is fraud on its own to help Republicans win the presidential race. Republican Congress members who will shoot down DC becoming a State is also voter fraud because they want to continue to suppress DC residents and their ability to get representation. Think about this, if there was a bill which gave people a day off to vote or made it mandatory that everyone votes, who will shoot down that proposal? Now think about why Republicans will shoot down that bill. It is because they understand that Republicans will never win office again, or at least in their current version of governing.

Heck, even most Republicans I know acknowledge when more people vote Democrats usually win.


I know Dems are pissed but they need to look in the mirror.

Hillary had every advantage and still couldn't beat Trump.

Heck, she had every advantage against Obama (initially) and couldn't beat him either.

Bottomline: Hillary is/was just a terrible campaigner. I actually think she would have been a good President but just a terrible campaigner.

Agree with this completely. In my view Clinton lost the election, Trump didn't win. Her entire campaign behaved as if her winning was inevitable, and they boasted about it in Wikileaks emails, social media and the press. This one was the height of delusion:

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[Induveca]

Just when you thought things couldn't get more odd....Cuban talking about a position in the Trump administration?

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cnbc.com/amp/2016/11/23/trump-critic-mark-cuban-reportedly-has-curious-sitdown-with-steve-bannon.html?client=safari

[AFM]

Just when you thought things couldn't get more odd....Cuban talking about a position in the Trump administration?

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cnbc.com/amp/2016/11/23/trump-critic-mark-cuban-reportedly-has-curious-sitdown-with-steve-bannon.html?client=safari

I would cum in my pants if this were true. He and Tulsi "Major MILF" Gabbard.

[closg00]

Just when you thought things couldn't get more odd....Cuban talking about a position in the Trump administration?

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cnbc.com/amp/2016/11/23/trump-critic-mark-cuban-reportedly-has-curious-sitdown-with-steve-bannon.html?client=safari

What they are doing is genius, vocal Trump critics are being offered high profile positions. Romney, who eviscerated Trump, Haley, Carson, everyone is being offered something, keeping them off the sidelines and eliminating potential challengers for 2020.

[Wizardspride]

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[popper]

My two biggest concerns going forward are Trump's conflicts of interest regarding his business affairs and the absolute disaster of international conflicts he will inherit. The first one is of his own making and he needs to separate/disengage himself ASAP or it will destroy his administration (I don't think he fully grasps the danger yet). The second one are the remnants of previous foreign policy mistakes that will be difficult if not impossible to overcome or compartmentalize. I wish him luck.

[nate33]

My two biggest concerns going forward are Trump's conflicts of interest regarding his business affairs and the absolute disaster of international conflicts he will inherit. The first one is of his own making and he needs to separate/disengage himself ASAP or it will destroy his administration (I don't think he fully grasps the danger yet). The second one are the remnants of previous foreign policy mistakes that will be difficult if not impossible to overcome or compartmentalize. I wish him luck.

I've been thinking about that first concern. It's going to be difficult. I think, in the beginning, Trump just assumed that he'd turn the company over to his kids and just stay out of it. But throughout the campaign, it has become evident that his kids have become trusted advisors; and with the Democrats and Republican establishment still against him, he has so few people he can trust. If all of his kids remain intertwined with his administration, then none of them can run the company.

Ultimately, I think whatever solution he finds, there will be critics who consider it unsatisfactory. He owns an international company, and the presidency, by definition is an international endeavor. There's no way to completely separate the two. Whenever his company makes an international transaction, the possibility will exist that politics played a role.

[TGW]

Watch alt-right moron Richard Spencer get destroyed by Roland Martin:

https://www.facebook.com/rolandsmartinfanpage/videos/10154189796407831/

[Wizardspride]

This isn't going to end well....

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[nate33]

This isn't going to end well....

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Peaceful dialogue with Russia isn't going to end well?

[closg00]

Jill Stein is going to request the recount, sparing Clinton from being blow-torched. I hope at the end of this process there will be some kind of paper trail for electronic voting. These machines can be hacked without fingerprints.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jill-stein-election-recount_us_5835e45be4b09b6055fffc64

[Wizardspride]

This isn't going to end well....

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Peaceful dialogue with Russia isn't going to end well?

I was referring to fact that Donald Trump Jr is involved at all.....

I just have a feeling these lines are going to blur as far running the family business versus being involved in the administration.


We'll see...

[AFM]