Hindsight is 20/20

[Beenie]

After watching Mia get thoroughly outclassed by a mediocre Detroit team tonight, I'm compelled to do a "coulda, woulda, shoulda" thread in which we can examine and vent about the team's inadequate personal decisions in recent years. Yes, I realize that the formation of "The Big 3" was constructed by the same regime that this thread will be critical of, but I believe that their successes doesn't necessarily buy them immunity from inspection of their failures. I also think learning from the past mistakes can open the door for future corrections.

First bit of punditry I'll offer is the team's decision to trade for Dragic over Isaiah Thomas. It's alleged that Mia had their choice between the two players and opted for what history is proving to be the drastically lesser option. Thomas is currently averaging a career best 26 points per game compared to Dragic's 16. Beyond mere stats, Thomas was the younger, cheaper option who the team would have been better suited to build around with. Mia's is now in a position where they'll probably move Dragic a some point before next season, and because of declining play, may not get the same value of what they traded to acquire him. It's these kind of mistakes that can set back a franchise multiple years.

More criticisms in the days to come.

[QUIZ]

In Hindsight we should've maxed Wade... though coming off the 14 finals his value was at a all time low. 5yr $90mill probably locks him up for the rest of his career. Not maxing him is a mistake that Riley admitted to David Aldridge.

We should've let Bosh go to Houston, at the end of the day it's not like his contract was awful relative to what players are getting paid now it's just a combination of Bosh not being good enough to get us over the top and his blog clots... though mainly the blog clots obviously. I don't blame Riley for this one, Bosh was the best player we could've gotten at the time and even now that's probably still true, we weren't gonna attract anyone better than him and it's not like we saw Hassan coming. Just bad luck that he dealt with blood clots rendering him untradeable.

Goran... this one is definitely the most painful move and it's probably what deserves the most criticism. We basically did it in a failed attempt to beat LeBron. We were in a sorry state when LeBron left, Wade missing 20+ games, us having the worst guard play in the league when that happened, no Hassan, playing Granger and Shawn Williams big minutes... so in that regard from 14-15 to 15-16 we made HUGE strides but it really only amounted to a low ceiling 48 win team that we couldn't afford to keep together even if we wanted too... which we didn't.

If I could do it all over again I'd sign Wade to 5yr $90mill the second LeBron left, I'll even give Pat the Bosh signing because that was bad luck more than anything else. We just shouldn't have traded for Goran. With that said if we don't trade for Goran we probably don't get to see Wade go off in the playoffs one more time. It is what it is.

[Cmon_Son-_-]

At the Time Dragic Was better than IT at every part of the game. IT has gotten better but at the time Dragic was clearly the better player.

The Vision was going into the Post Season with Dragic Wade and Bosh. Whiteside was a pleasant surprise that made that vision even better but Bosh being hurt killed all of that.

Also I truly believe Pat tanked this season. The narrative has always been that Pat doesn't tank but people change and no way did he think the moves made this offseason would field a respectable team, at least I hope not.

[G.cracker]

Pat doesn't do short PGs like IT. At the time, I thought we could have parted with less to get Brandon Knight, a local kid, who was having an all star calliber year with the Bucks. But he has since regressed too. I think they got caught up in the two-for of not having to give up anyone of worth and ditching bad contracts to get a player who was All NBA 3rd team a year prior and the draft picks became the price of doing business. But as bad as they are, they have become a hefty price. At the time though, when late first rounders like Tim James, Dexter Pittman, Wayne Simien and even Dorrell Wright were our pattern, it did not seem to matter. But when FA is a crapshoot and everyone has money, it matters more than ever.

[dancing2thabeet]

Chris' blood clots destroyed everything. Playoff hopes, Wade leaving, Dragic not having a PNP partner, lack of frontcourt shooting, no respectable backup big when Whiteside sits, no go to guy at the end of shotclocks, having a max contract eating space while not playing ... There's no hindsight here. There's nobody to blame. Health issues suck and this one happens to really suck.

[DWadeno3]

A lot of decisions were based on Vhris Bosh being available for us. His health problems are the core issue to everything else. With a healthy Bosh, we beat the Raptors. With a healthy Bosh, who knows what might have happened against the Cavs. After the addition of Joe Johnson last year, our team was good, make no mistake about it.

[Hallstar]

A lot of decisions were based on Vhris Bosh being available for us. His health problems are the core issue to everything else. With a healthy Bosh, we beat the Raptors. With a healthy Bosh, who knows what might have happened against the Cavs. After the addition of Joe Johnson last year, our team was good, make no mistake about it.

Hell, with a Willie Reed we probably beat the Raptors, we went 7 games with no front court lol.

I always said it made no sense to lock up Dragic if you were not sure about Wade.

Bosh never led anybody to anything, but I understand Houston forced their hand.

The difference between cornerstones vs pieces. If Wade isn't being built around then tear down everything until we get a star.

I never had a problem with a rebuild, I had a problem with us not having a vision.

[jamalkandur]

After watching Mia get thoroughly outclassed by a mediocre Detroit team tonight, I'm compelled to do a "coulda, woulda, shoulda" thread in which we can examine and vent about the team's inadequate personal decisions in recent years. Yes, I realize that the formation of "The Big 3" was constructed by the same regime that this thread will be critical of, but I believe that their successes doesn't necessarily buy them immunity from inspection of their failures. I also think learning from the past mistakes can open the door for future corrections.

First bit of punditry I'll offer is the team's decision to trade for Dragic over Isaiah Thomas. It's alleged that Mia had their choice between the two players and opted for what history is proving to be the drastically lesser option. Thomas is currently averaging a career best 26 points per game compared to Dragic's 16. Beyond mere stats, Thomas was the younger, cheaper option who the team would have been better suited to build around with. Mia's is now in a position where they'll probably move Dragic a some point before next season, and because of declining play, may not get the same value of what they traded to acquire him. It's these kind of mistakes that can set back a franchise multiple years.

More criticisms in the days to come.

In Hindsight we should've maxed Wade... though coming off the 14 finals his value was at a all time low. 5yr $90mill probably locks him up for the rest of his career. Not maxing him is a mistake that Riley admitted to David Aldridge.

We should've let Bosh go to Houston, at the end of the day it's not like his contract was awful relative to what players are getting paid now it's just a combination of Bosh not being good enough to get us over the top and his blog clots... though mainly the blog clots obviously. I don't blame Riley for this one, Bosh was the best player we could've gotten at the time and even now that's probably still true, we weren't gonna attract anyone better than him and it's not like we saw Hassan coming. Just bad luck that he dealt with blood clots rendering him untradeable.

Goran... this one is definitely the most painful move and it's probably what deserves the most criticism. We basically did it in a failed attempt to beat LeBron. We were in a sorry state when LeBron left, Wade missing 20+ games, us having the worst guard play in the league when that happened, no Hassan, playing Granger and Shawn Williams big minutes... so in that regard from 14-15 to 15-16 we made HUGE strides but it really only amounted to a low ceiling 48 win team that we couldn't afford to keep together even if we wanted too... which we didn't.

If I could do it all over again I'd sign Wade to 5yr $90mill the second LeBron left, I'll even give Pat the Bosh signing because that was bad luck more than anything else. We just shouldn't have traded for Goran. With that said if we don't trade for Goran we probably don't get to see Wade go off in the playoffs one more time. It is what it is.

From June 4, 2015:

If Riley ignores Wade in order to overpay Dragic, this will be the most shameful mistake made by any NBA executive. Dragic has not done anything to deserve this money through his career. If he was 24-25 years old, we can say Miami pay because of his potential but Dragic will be 30 next play-off, so he already showed his full potential. He's not a spot-up shooter like Korver, his game based on the speed and there's no way a player in 30s be faster than his 20s, this is the universal rule and nobody can escape this, so he's past his best. And please stop saying these overpaying contracts will be a bargain in next CBA. No, it will not. If you rain money on every average player you will not have room for the real franchise stars. Even best Dragic season can barely catch the worst Wade season which is Wade's rookie season. Dragic has not the skill level and winner's chracter which it's necessary for leading a playoff team. He's not a franchise player and if you try to create a leader from him, you will see dramatic efficiency declining and bad play decisions.

Riley made a bad mistake and gave two first round for him, now he doesn't want to look more stupid by not keeping him and he gives him what he wants.Actually Riley would make a much more stupid choise for letting Wade go and maxing Dragic. Kobe and Wade's situations are different from each other. Wade is the hero who has given its first championship to an organisation without any title. Plus he sacrificed and gave up the leadership role in his prime and at the same time he accept big paycut and last summer he sacrificed once again accepted another paycut.IMO Riley should S&T Dragic for a legit PG or a first round right and give to Wade a well deserved 3 year contract and keep rest of salary space for bargain FA opportunities.

[Prince Ali]

In Hindsight we should've maxed Wade... though coming off the 14 finals his value was at a all time low. 5yr $90mill probably locks him up for the rest of his career. Not maxing him is a mistake that Riley admitted to David Aldridge.

Wade knowing LeBron was leaving and not tipping off Riley is a big reason why this didnt happen. Im
Not here to argue if thats his job to do or not, so for the posters who are going to say that, save it. Im just saying what it is.

[SlowPaced]

Bosh's issue **** us up. Simple as that. If Bosh was okay, we'd have given Wade his contract this summer and would be looking to reach at least the Conference Finals again.

You can never get ready for something so out of the blue. We traded for Dragic to reach contender status again -because we had absolutely no playmaking outside of Wade, remember the days of Wario and Cole-, and we did. With Bosh we'd have beaten the Raps and went against the Cavs in the Conference Finals last season.

We've been dealt a bad hand, but it is what it is. Not re-signing Wade remains a good move in my book. We suck, but it's better than jeopardizing your future to treadmill for a couple of more years.

[twix2500]

In hindsight last year roster was a contending team. Sheit happens and we had to change course

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[contract]

We suck, but it's better than jeopardizing your future to treadmill for a couple of more years.

You can treadmill as a ~ 40 win team, and you can treadmill as a crappy team. We haven't escaped the treadmill yet. And the treadmill can last a hell of a lot longer than a couple of seasons.

[SlowPaced]

We suck, but it's better than jeopardizing your future to treadmill for a couple of more years.

You can treadmill as a ~ 40 win team, and you can treadmill as a crappy team. We haven't escaped the treadmill yet. And the treadmill can last a hell of a lot longer than a couple of seasons.

A good way to escape a treadmill is to get a good player off the draft by sucking. Especially if it's a strong draft class and especially if you don't have a pick the following year.

Don't know why this seems to be eluding some people's (not saying you) minds. We NEED to suck this year. No ifs and buts about it. Our core players aren't good enough to attract any big name free agents. We need to build through the draft and from the inside.

[contract]

We suck, but it's better than jeopardizing your future to treadmill for a couple of more years.

You can treadmill as a ~ 40 win team, and you can treadmill as a crappy team. We haven't escaped the treadmill yet. And the treadmill can last a hell of a lot longer than a couple of seasons.

A good way to escape a treadmill is to get a good player off the draft by sucking. Especially if it's a strong draft class and especially if you don't have a pick the following year.

Don't know why this seems to be eluding some people's (not saying you) minds. We NEED to suck this year. No ifs and buts about it. Our core players aren't good enough to attract any big name free agents. We need to build through the draft and from the inside.

It eludes me (and I am saying me) because Michael Beasley. Too many people just assume that if we get a high pick, we will get a good player, but there's a lot of luck in first not getting screwed in the lottery, and then making the right choice. It would be great to get another Lebron, or another Wade, or even another Bosh, but odds are pretty good that even with the #1 pick, we wouldn't do that well.

I just don't like not putting the best team possible on the floor.

[SlowPaced]

You can treadmill as a ~ 40 win team, and you can treadmill as a crappy team. We haven't escaped the treadmill yet. And the treadmill can last a hell of a lot longer than a couple of seasons.

A good way to escape a treadmill is to get a good player off the draft by sucking. Especially if it's a strong draft class and especially if you don't have a pick the following year.

Don't know why this seems to be eluding some people's (not saying you) minds. We NEED to suck this year. No ifs and buts about it. Our core players aren't good enough to attract any big name free agents. We need to build through the draft and from the inside.

It eludes me (and I am saying me) because Michael Beasley. Too many people just assume that if we get a high pick, we will get a good player, but there's a lot of luck in first not getting screwed in the lottery, and then making the right choice. It would be great to get another Lebron, or another Wade, or even another Bosh, but odds are pretty good that even with the #1 pick, we wouldn't do that well.

I just don't like not putting the best team possible on the floor.

Taking a chance is better not giving yourself a chance at all. And again, this is a very strong draft class.

Sucking but not sucking that much doesn't get rewarded in this league. What's the point of trying to get the 11th seed in East instead of 14th?

[Flash4thewin]

A good way to escape a treadmill is to get a good player off the draft by sucking. Especially if it's a strong draft class and especially if you don't have a pick the following year.

Don't know why this seems to be eluding some people's (not saying you) minds. We NEED to suck this year. No ifs and buts about it. Our core players aren't good enough to attract any big name free agents. We need to build through the draft and from the inside.

It eludes me (and I am saying me) because Michael Beasley. Too many people just assume that if we get a high pick, we will get a good player, but there's a lot of luck in first not getting screwed in the lottery, and then making the right choice. It would be great to get another Lebron, or another Wade, or even another Bosh, but odds are pretty good that even with the #1 pick, we wouldn't do that well.

I just don't like not putting the best team possible on the floor.

Taking a chance is better not giving yourself a chance at all. And again, this is a very strong draft class.

Sucking but not sucking that much doesn't get rewarded in this league. What's the point of trying to get the 11th seed in East instead of 14th?

So use Beasley as an example of what to do in the same situation. Trade down if you are not comfortable with the BAP and gain more assets that way. Or Showcase the rookie to get something out of him via a trade like the sixers have done.

[SlowPaced]

It eludes me (and I am saying me) because Michael Beasley. Too many people just assume that if we get a high pick, we will get a good player, but there's a lot of luck in first not getting screwed in the lottery, and then making the right choice. It would be great to get another Lebron, or another Wade, or even another Bosh, but odds are pretty good that even with the #1 pick, we wouldn't do that well.

I just don't like not putting the best team possible on the floor.

Taking a chance is better not giving yourself a chance at all. And again, this is a very strong draft class.

Sucking but not sucking that much doesn't get rewarded in this league. What's the point of trying to get the 11th seed in East instead of 14th?

So use Beasley as an example of what to do in the same situation. Trade down if you are not comfortable with the BAP and gain more assets that way. Or Showcase the rookie to get something out of him via a trade like the sixers have done.

Yeah, there's that also. Just doesn't make sense to shy away from the chance to get a top pick because you might not nail it. Higher pick is always a bigger asset and bigger assets always mean more flexibility.

[Flash4thewin]

Taking a chance is better not giving yourself a chance at all. And again, this is a very strong draft class.

Sucking but not sucking that much doesn't get rewarded in this league. What's the point of trying to get the 11th seed in East instead of 14th?

So use Beasley as an example of what to do in the same situation. Trade down if you are not comfortable with the BAP and gain more assets that way. Or Showcase the rookie to get something out of him via a trade like the sixers have done.

Yeah, there's that also. Just doesn't make sense to shy away from the chance to get a top pick because you might not nail it. Higher pick is always a bigger asset and bigger assets always mean more flexibility.

Basically its pride now. After Lebron looked at Pat offer of McRoberts and scrubs he rightfully reject him. Pat went on a rant then traded for Dragic ( 2 first round picks). Forget about pride and do whats best for the team

[Mos_Heat]

[Bishop45]

Hindsight definitely is 20/20 if we're calling last years team a contending team

We had just as much of a right not to max out a mediocre squad as we did to go out and pay Wade