Fantasy Trade Thread

[TTP]

My bad... I think the list must show up as by age or something when you first go into it, which explains why the list looks like it's from 2004 at the top, haha.

Maybe they'd have some mild interest in Hollis, but I think the offer would look more like a 2nd rounder. I just think they'd want something more significant in terms of a win now piece if they were gonna move Baldwin. Maybe it's fine if they had a similar grade on TLC as they did on him.

It doesn't have to be Hollis either. They're actually pretty thin on backups for Gasol, so maybe Holmes would interest them. Holmes + Korkmaz for Baldwin. It just seems like there's a deal to be made here.

I've wanted Baldwin as much as anybody but this seems like an overpay.

It's a shame Okafor was awful last night. I would have liked some kind of Okafor for Baldwin deal.

[LloydFree]

McConnell & Thompson for Wade Baldwin. Sixers take a chance on a rookie with good measurables, Memphis adds another shooter to their bench.

We gotta stop adding McConnell to these fantasy trade proposals as if he adds value to the trade. McConnell has value to no one in the NBA other than Brett Brown. McConnell should be included in trade proposals only as salary filler or to balance the bodies going to/from each roster.

[LloydFree]

My bad... I think the list must show up as by age or something when you first go into it, which explains why the list looks like it's from 2004 at the top, haha.

Maybe they'd have some mild interest in Hollis, but I think the offer would look more like a 2nd rounder. I just think they'd want something more significant in terms of a win now piece if they were gonna move Baldwin. Maybe it's fine if they had a similar grade on TLC as they did on him.

It doesn't have to be Hollis either. They're actually pretty thin on backups for Gasol, so maybe Holmes would interest them. Holmes + Korkmaz for Baldwin. It just seems like there's a deal to be made here.

I've wanted Baldwin as much as anybody but this seems like an overpay.

It's a shame Okafor was awful last night. I would have liked some kind of Okafor for Baldwin deal.

Memphis is an organization that values analytics and players who grade positive analytically. They aren't going to give you anything for Okafor. Im just happy Okafor performed well when they played the Wizards. Hopefully he scores some points when they play New Orleans. Both the Wizards and Pelicans employ GMs who are pigeons, where we can pawn Okafor off onto their teams.

[the_process]

Henson, Hezonja, Watson, and Middleton to PHI
Okafor, Rodriguez, and LAL 1st to PHX
Bledsoe, Ilyasova, and Noel to MIL
Knight, Thompson, and MIL 2nd to ORL

And then next season you can trot out:
Fultz/Bayless/Watson
Middleton/Stauskas/Korkmaz
Covington/Hezonja/TLC
Simmons/Saric/2nd
Embiid/Henson/Holmes

Sure.

Little unfair to just plop Fultz in the lineup though... haha

Don't ruin my dreams

[eagereyez]

McConnell & Thompson for Wade Baldwin. Sixers take a chance on a rookie with good measurables, Memphis adds another shooter to their bench.

We gotta stop adding McConnell to these fantasy trade proposals as if he adds value to the trade. McConnell has value to no one in the NBA other than Brett Brown. McConnell should be included in trade proposals only as salary filler or to balance the bodies going to/from each roster.

I added McConnell so Memphis would have a 3rd string PG in case Conley was injured again. He's not bad in that role, he's actually 42/83 in RPM ahead of guys like Ish Smith and Brandon Knight. He was also close to the 50th percentile last season. I know it doesn't get the And-1's, but McConnell is not the worst backup PG in the NBA.

[the_process]

It doesn't have to be Hollis either. They're actually pretty thin on backups for Gasol, so maybe Holmes would interest them. Holmes + Korkmaz for Baldwin. It just seems like there's a deal to be made here.

I've wanted Baldwin as much as anybody but this seems like an overpay.

It's a shame Okafor was awful last night. I would have liked some kind of Okafor for Baldwin deal.

Memphis is an organization that values analytics and players who grade positive analytically. They aren't going to give you anything for Okafor. Im just happy Okafor performed well when they played the Wizards. Hopefully he scores some points when they play New Orleans. Both the Wizards and Pelicans employ GMs who are pigeons who we can pawn Okafor off, onto their teams.

Since BB won't even try Jah with Embiid, it's only a matter of time that Jah is gone. Someone will get suckered in by his counting stats.

I wish Noel would be okay with playing ~28 mins off the bench, but since that's not the case, he'll be gone too.

I'd like to find a defensive C on a reasonable contract who can backup Embiid and maybe even play a few minutes with him. WCS comes to mind.

[LloydFree]

McConnell & Thompson for Wade Baldwin. Sixers take a chance on a rookie with good measurables, Memphis adds another shooter to their bench.

We gotta stop adding McConnell to these fantasy trade proposals as if he adds value to the trade. McConnell has value to no one in the NBA other than Brett Brown. McConnell should be included in trade proposals only as salary filler or to balance the bodies going to/from each roster.

I added McConnell so Memphis would have a 3rd string PG in case Conley was injured again. He's not bad in that role, he's actually 42/83 in RPM ahead of guys like Ish Smith and Brandon Knight. He was also close to the 50th percentile last season. I know it doesn't get the And-1's, but McConnell is not the worst backup PG in the NBA.

So who trades their most recent (non-bust) 1st round pick to acquire a 3rd string PG insurance policy? I know, "let's trade Dario Saric for a better 3rd string PG and 3rd string SG, because Simmons is hurt"... Cut it out.

[eagereyez]

We gotta stop adding McConnell to these fantasy trade proposals as if he adds value to the trade. McConnell has value to no one in the NBA other than Brett Brown. McConnell should be included in trade proposals only as salary filler or to balance the bodies going to/from each roster.

I added McConnell so Memphis would have a 3rd string PG in case Conley was injured again. He's not bad in that role, he's actually 42/83 in RPM ahead of guys like Ish Smith and Brandon Knight. He was also close to the 50th percentile last season. I know it doesn't get the And-1's, but McConnell is not the worst backup PG in the NBA.

So who trades their most recent (non-bust) 1st round pick to acquire a 3rd string PG insurance policy? I know, "let's trade Dario Saric for a better 3rd string PG and 3rd string SG, because Simmons is hurt"... Cut it out.

If you want to re-visit the trade, then you should read the rest of the discussion. It's also beside point, which is that McConnell is not totally worthless. If you're going to praise Memphis for being an analytically adept organization, then you should know that McConnell grades well analytically (for a backup).

[TTP]

It doesn't have to be Hollis either. They're actually pretty thin on backups for Gasol, so maybe Holmes would interest them. Holmes + Korkmaz for Baldwin. It just seems like there's a deal to be made here.

I've wanted Baldwin as much as anybody but this seems like an overpay.

It's a shame Okafor was awful last night. I would have liked some kind of Okafor for Baldwin deal.

Memphis is an organization that values analytics and players who grade positive analytically. They aren't going to give you anything for Okafor. Im just happy Okafor performed well when they played the Wizards. Hopefully he scores some points when they play New Orleans. Both the Wizards and Pelicans employ GMs who are pigeons, who we can pawn Okafor off onto their teams.

Yep, very true and something I overlooked when making the post. They are one of several teams that pretty much never end up with Okafor on their team.

[uuaarrgh]

Noel, McConnell or Thompson for LaVine and Petkovic (buyout)

Sergio,bayless
LaVine, Stauskas
Covington,Henderson, (Simmons)
Ilyasova,Saric
Embiid,Okafor

[the_process]

Noel, McConnell or Thompson for LaVine and Petkovic (buyout)

Sergio,bayless
LaVine, Stauskas
Covington,Henderson, (Simmons)
Ilyasova,Saric
Embiid,Okafor

Easy yes. Don't see MIN doing that, though.

[spikeslovechild]

I think some underestimate how bad Petkovic deal is. He had 23 million left on his deal prior to this season. I'm not taking on that for anything less then a mildly protected first.

I think Noel for Levine is fair. Thompson and McConnell are throw ins maybe you assign them a value of a second dunno. But Petkovic contract is too steep. You are essentially losing all the cap savings generated by acquiring Levine and then some.

Lets do the math. Levine is an RFA in 2018 great so we gain that year. But in order to gain that year we spend 23 million on Petkovic who is a sunk cost and 3.2 million on Levine. Thats 26 million for that extra year. No thanks

[TTP]

I think some underestimate how bad Petkovic deal is. He had 23 million left on his deal prior to this season. I'm not taking on that for anything less then a mildly protected first.

I think Noel for Levine is fair. Thompson and McConnell are throw ins maybe you assign them a value of a second dunno. But Petkovic contract is too steep. You are essentially losing all the cap savings generated by acquiring Levine and then some.

Lets do the math. Levine is an RFA in 2018 great so we gain that year. But in order to gain that year we spend 23 million on Petkovic who is a sunk cost and 3.2 million on Levine. Thats 26 million for that extra year. No thanks

LaVine is worth more than Noel right now. The Wolves have little incentive to do that deal.

On another note, you guys lose credibility on these player and trade evaluations when you consistently misspell their names.

[plead.5th]

Would have to be a 3 team trade. Minnesota is looking for vets to settle the young guys down. We don't have anything they need in that category. None of our vets are any good, short of Elysaova

[Ericb5]

I don't agree that he has no place on a team with them because theoretically it would be in a world where Okafor wasn't on the team, and Noel could just be a back up.

The problem is that he can't be a backup on the team and be paid like a starter.

Plus you could probably get away with playing Embiid and Noel together in certain situations, and Simmons could be out there with them and two shooters, one of which would have to guard the point.

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Noel is not going to take a paycut to be a backup.

Then he won't be a Sixer so it is a non issue.

I don't think there is much chance at all that Noel is on this team beyond the trade deadline anyway.


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[Kolkmania]

I've wanted Baldwin as much as anybody but this seems like an overpay.

It's a shame Okafor was awful last night. I would have liked some kind of Okafor for Baldwin deal.

Memphis is an organization that values analytics and players who grade positive analytically. They aren't going to give you anything for Okafor. Im just happy Okafor performed well when they played the Wizards. Hopefully he scores some points when they play New Orleans. Both the Wizards and Pelicans employ GMs who are pigeons who we can pawn Okafor off, onto their teams.

I wish Noel would be okay with playing ~28 mins off the bench, but since that's not the case, he'll be gone too.

I read that a lot around here, do you have a source?

Only thing that comes to my mind is that he said that the current situation is far from ideal. With four "capable" centers, including a future superstar, fighting for 48 minutes I can't say he's wrong. I've said it before in this topic, but IF we decide to trade Okafor there will be enough minutes (20-30 MPG) for Nerlens.

Potentially losing long-term flexibility is worrisome though.

[uuaarrgh]

Sorry for my mistake! My proposal should be Noel, McConnell or Thompson and the Lakers pick for LaVine and Pekovic (buyout)

[LloydFree]

Memphis is an organization that values analytics and players who grade positive analytically. They aren't going to give you anything for Okafor. Im just happy Okafor performed well when they played the Wizards. Hopefully he scores some points when they play New Orleans. Both the Wizards and Pelicans employ GMs who are pigeons who we can pawn Okafor off, onto their teams.

I wish Noel would be okay with playing ~28 mins off the bench, but since that's not the case, he'll be gone too.

I read that a lot around here, do you have a source?

Only thing that comes to my mind is that he said that the current situation is far from ideal. With four "capable" centers, including a future superstar, fighting for 48 minutes I can't say he's wrong. I've said it before in this topic, but IF we decide to trade Okafor there will be enough minutes (20-30 MPG) for Nerlens.

Potentially losing long-term flexibility is worrisome though.

If they traded Okafor tomorrow they wouldn't be losing or risking anything. The idea that Okafor is Embiid insurance is a joke at this point. If Embiid goes down and Okafor is not here we're screwed. If Embiid goes down and Okafor is the Center, we're still screwed.
If the 76ers choose, Noel is their back-up Center for the next year and a half regardless of his decision to accept or decline the qualifying offer. If the 76ers can't figure out how to replace the likes of Nerlens Noel and Jahlil Okafor as back-up Centers, in the next year and a half, then many people in the organization should be replaced.

[Ericb5]

I wish Noel would be okay with playing ~28 mins off the bench, but since that's not the case, he'll be gone too.

I read that a lot around here, do you have a source?

Only thing that comes to my mind is that he said that the current situation is far from ideal. With four "capable" centers, including a future superstar, fighting for 48 minutes I can't say he's wrong. I've said it before in this topic, but IF we decide to trade Okafor there will be enough minutes (20-30 MPG) for Nerlens.

Potentially losing long-term flexibility is worrisome though.

If they traded Okafor tomorrow they wouldn't be losing or risking anything. The idea that Okafor is Embiid insurance is a joke at this point. If Embiid goes down and Okafor is not here we're screwed. If Embiid goes down and Okafor is the Center, we're still screwed.
If the 76ers choose, Noel is their back-up Center for the next year and a half regardless of his decision to accept or decline the qualifying offer. If the 76ers can't figure out how to replace the likes Nerlens Noel and Jahlil Okafor as back-up Centers, in the next year and a half, then many people in the organization should be replaced.

I don't think that they need to replace Noel, and Okafor since we have Holmes. Holmes can be a back up center for now, and you can always find back up centers on the market down the road if need be.

We also have Saric, Simmons, and Ilyasova at the 4.


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[the_process]

Okafor and Rodriquez to HOU
Noel, McDaniels, and the LAL 1st to MIN
Beverley, Brewer, Pekovic, and LaVine to PHI