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Post#2021 » by Prokorov » Fri Nov 25, 2016 3:10 pm

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fafan wrote:Lin already had a hard 45-minute workout this Monday.Don't know why still wait so long. Are they expect he play 40 minutes as soon as he back?


Why not wait? what benefit is there to come back earlier rather then later? wins arent the focus, having him healthy and not risking him reinjuring it are much more important.

i think week 1 december is most likely

Yes, rest is better if still recover. But Lin can do 45 minutes hard workout 5 days, his body was ready. It doesn't mean wait longer always better. Start playing like 10-20 minutes in game will help him find feeling back and be more ready.


why not wait longer AND start him at 10-20 minutes per game?

the most cautious plan possible is what we should be aiming for
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Post#2022 » by fafan » Fri Nov 25, 2016 3:15 pm

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fafan wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
Why not wait? what benefit is there to come back earlier rather then later? wins arent the focus, having him healthy and not risking him reinjuring it are much more important.

i think week 1 december is most likely

Yes, rest is better if still recover. But Lin can do 45 minutes hard workout 5 days, his body was ready. It doesn't mean wait longer always better. Start playing like 10-20 minutes in game will help him find feeling back and be more ready.


why not wait longer AND start him at 10-20 minutes per game?

the most cautious plan possible is what we should be aiming for


Hope can get more details not just "progressing on schedule no timeline".
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#2023 » by Prokorov » Fri Nov 25, 2016 3:20 pm

fafan wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
fafan wrote:Yes, rest is better if still recover. But Lin can do 45 minutes hard workout 5 days, his body was ready. It doesn't mean wait longer always better. Start playing like 10-20 minutes in game will help him find feeling back and be more ready.


why not wait longer AND start him at 10-20 minutes per game?

the most cautious plan possible is what we should be aiming for


Hope can get more details not just "progressing on schedule no timeline".


yeah it stinks not to know but the front office is tight lipped... which is the better approach team wise. no leaks.
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#2024 » by Roy Tarpley » Fri Nov 25, 2016 3:25 pm

Prokorov wrote:
fafan wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
Why not wait? what benefit is there to come back earlier rather then later? wins arent the focus, having him healthy and not risking him reinjuring it are much more important.

i think week 1 december is most likely

Yes, rest is better if still recover. But Lin can do 45 minutes hard workout 5 days, his body was ready. It doesn't mean wait longer always better. Start playing like 10-20 minutes in game will help him find feeling back and be more ready.


why not wait longer AND start him at 10-20 minutes per game?

the most cautious plan possible is what we should be aiming for


Why not be extremely cautious and just sit Lin for the rest of the season so he's 100 percent ready for 2017-18?!

J/k - excited to see Lin and Levert soon.
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#2025 » by Paradise » Fri Nov 25, 2016 3:39 pm

I understand the impatience everyone has with the injury but it's better let him rest it for a little longer than to risk any lingering effects.

He injured the hamstring by landing funny on a shot attempt. That can happen again at anytime.


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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#2026 » by hood30 » Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:00 pm

Roy Tarpley wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
fafan wrote:Yes, rest is better if still recover. But Lin can do 45 minutes hard workout 5 days, his body was ready. It doesn't mean wait longer always better. Start playing like 10-20 minutes in game will help him find feeling back and be more ready.


why not wait longer AND start him at 10-20 minutes per game?

the most cautious plan possible is what we should be aiming for


Why not be extremely cautious and just sit Lin for the rest of the season so he's 100 percent ready for 2017-18?!

J/k - excited to see Lin and Levert soon.


lol...maybe that's the plan....Or sit him until after the all-star break so he can be well rested to play 27 minutes per night once he's back....Wouldn't be surprise given how cautious they are and remember, winning is not important for this year anyway, so let's shut him down until after the all star break...That sound like a pretty good plan. Get it done Marks.

By the time Lin comes back, there won't be much to play for, so why not play the youths so they could get time to develop instead of Lin.
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#2027 » by bws94 » Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:15 pm

hood30 wrote:
Roy Tarpley wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
why not wait longer AND start him at 10-20 minutes per game?

the most cautious plan possible is what we should be aiming for


Why not be extremely cautious and just sit Lin for the rest of the season so he's 100 percent ready for 2017-18?!

J/k - excited to see Lin and Levert soon.


lol...maybe that's the plan....Or sit him until after the all-star break so he can be well rested to play 27 minutes per night once he's back....Wouldn't be surprise given how cautious they are and remember, winning is not important for this year anyway, so let's shut him down until after the all star break...That sound like a pretty good plan. Get it done Marks.

By the time Lin comes back, there won't be much to play for, so why not play the youths so they could get time to develop instead of Lin.


Lin's point guard and leadership skills are also being honed. I think he'll play once they feel he has a minimal chance of reinjuring the hamstring. I think we'll see him playing sooner rather than later. But, of course, I'm guessing.
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#2028 » by TTNN » Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:20 pm

Prokorov wrote:We have a bottom 3 defense. Lin is at least an average defender... he isnt the problem especially since PG defense is the least impotant on the court. This team will never not be bad defensively as long as bogs/lopez are on the team playing major minutes


I'd think a defensive center and wing is more important than have a defensive PG. However, with Lopez, we don't have a very strong defensive center, then a good defensive PG is important since you could not rely on Lopez to erase your mistake.

Nets was 19th in defense PPP the first 5 games, but now is 29th, the defensive intensity drop is pretty obvious. I feel that we are missing experience on the PG position, they need a defensive anchor on the team, to organize the team defense, but they obviously missing that. I think Lin and Booker were doing that but feels Booker by himself might not be good enough.

I really hope Sean could get a Vet backup point guard somewhere who could lead the team when Lin is down. We are currently rely on two rookies, and our vets could not be counted on (Foye is not a real PG).
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#2029 » by TTNN » Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:29 pm

fafan wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
fafan wrote:Yes, rest is better if still recover. But Lin can do 45 minutes hard workout 5 days, his body was ready. It doesn't mean wait longer always better. Start playing like 10-20 minutes in game will help him find feeling back and be more ready.


why not wait longer AND start him at 10-20 minutes per game?

the most cautious plan possible is what we should be aiming for


Hope can get more details not just "progressing on schedule no timeline".


LeVert was cleared for full practice but is still out, so not sure what to expect for Lin then, who is not cleared for full practice yet.

Even when Foye was cleared to play, the coach did not play him before a team practice. So team has been careful here.

That said, really start to worry this team fall too hard, then it will be harder to come back. And if the players start to lose confidence in the system, then it will be harder to get back to the chemistry they shown in the beginning of the season.
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#2030 » by Prokorov » Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:55 pm

hood30 wrote:
Roy Tarpley wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
why not wait longer AND start him at 10-20 minutes per game?

the most cautious plan possible is what we should be aiming for


Why not be extremely cautious and just sit Lin for the rest of the season so he's 100 percent ready for 2017-18?!

J/k - excited to see Lin and Levert soon.


lol...maybe that's the plan....Or sit him until after the all-star break so he can be well rested to play 27 minutes per night once he's back....Wouldn't be surprise given how cautious they are and remember, winning is not important for this year anyway, so let's shut him down until after the all star break...That sound like a pretty good plan. Get it done Marks.

By the time Lin comes back, there won't be much to play for, so why not play the youths so they could get time to develop instead of Lin.


Lin is a big part of the young guys development... having young kids play with high iq hard working vets is important
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#2031 » by All Nets » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:04 pm

Read on Twitter


As most probably expected, Jeremy and Caris LeVert are both out for tonight's game. It's extra tough not having a healthy team, especially down the guy who's supposed to be your main pick and roll handler when your other options are still rookies trying to adapt.

The one thing that's starting to worry me is the effect of multiple losses in a row on development. As far as I can tell, the Nets played good hard-nosed basketball against the Celtics. But seeing your team lose over and over again isn't conducive to building up the younger guys. I hope KA can keep this team out the "we suck, what's the point anyways?" mindset.
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#2032 » by hood30 » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:20 pm

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Read on Twitter


As most probably expected, Jeremy and Caris LeVert are both out for tonight's game. It's extra tough not having a healthy team, especially down the guy who's supposed to be your main pick and roll handler when your other options are still rookies trying to adapt.

The one thing that's starting to worry me is the effect of multiple losses in a row on development. As far as I can tell, the Nets played good hard-nosed basketball against the Celtics. But seeing your team lose over and over again isn't conducive to building up the younger guys. I hope KA can keep this team out the "we suck, what's the point anyways?" mindset.


Kenny needs to shake things up a bit instead of keeping everything as is...Shake up the minute distribution and rotation..what in the world does he have to lose at this point with a 5 game losing streak.

For once, I want to see Lopez go 30-32, just for one night..I simply want Kenny to keep whoever is playing well on the court..For Kenny, it really doesn't matter which players are hot or on a roll, he just takes them out based on a set timer, and at this point, he needs to go away from the scheduled substitution pattern and stick with the hot hands for longer.

If Bogs or Lopez or anyone else is having a hot quarter, keep him in please...No one has been getting consistent 30 minute per game so everyone should be fresh and well rested to go 30+ for tonight..We simply need the hot hands to play 31-33 minutes.
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#2033 » by Prokorov » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:11 pm

All Nets wrote:
Read on Twitter


As most probably expected, Jeremy and Caris LeVert are both out for tonight's game. It's extra tough not having a healthy team, especially down the guy who's supposed to be your main pick and roll handler when your other options are still rookies trying to adapt.

The one thing that's starting to worry me is the effect of multiple losses in a row on development. As far as I can tell, the Nets played good hard-nosed basketball against the Celtics. But seeing your team lose over and over again isn't conducive to building up the younger guys. I hope KA can keep this team out the "we suck, what's the point anyways?" mindset.


i cant see that happening... thats one of the benefits of having a team full of role guys and bench players. they need to fight to prove their worth and most are free agents soon. and young guys need to show they belong in the league

i think what you are saying is more liekly to happen on a team with good players or top draft picks who know they will be around long and get paid
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#2034 » by All Nets » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:18 pm

Prokorov wrote:i cant see that happening... thats one of the benefits of having a team full of role guys and bench players. they need to fight to prove their worth and most are free agents soon. and young guys need to show they belong in the league

i think what you are saying is more liekly to happen on a team with good players or top draft picks who know they will be around long and get paid


I agree for the majority of players. I'm encouraged by the effort from Whitehead, Yogi, Harris, and Hamilton. Guys like Booker, RHJ, and Lopez I'm pretty much not surprised by their effort because it's always there.

But it's some of those short term contract vets that're worth keeping an eye on.

Scola's 36, so far he's been playing within the system but he's not surprised me in any way. I think he knows this is possibly his last year in the league. Hopefully there's some good mentoring behind the scenes.

Bojan's 27 but it's tough to gauge how he feels about the Nets. He's in for a nice pay raise next season, and his current role suits that agenda nicely as his main role is to be a scorer. But at times it does feel like he's over-extending in terms of creating off the dribble, but Lin's been out so long that might be a larger factor. Curious how the off-season plays out with him.

Foye is the guy I'm mostly watching, because he's not as old as Scola, and likely will be looking for one final contract. Last year he was only healthy for 27 games so that's probably his main goal but at times I feel like his shot selection could improve. 27% from 3 and 36% from 2 overall 30% FG, both career lows. Combine that with the fact that he was never an above average defender and his options for making a case for another contract are pretty limited. I kind of wanted to see Yogi in for Foye at the second half of the Celtics game.
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#2035 » by fafan » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:41 pm

According to NBA Injury Report/CBS Sports, updated today, Nov 25:

Jeremy Lin: Expected to be out until "at least" Nov 27.
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#2036 » by uballer » Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:43 pm

fafan wrote:According to NBA Injury Report/CBS Sports, updated today, Nov 25:

Jeremy Lin: Expected to be out until "at least" Nov 27.


And, Caris LeVert: Expected to be out until at least Dec. 1.
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#2037 » by Vae Victus » Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:19 am

A shame, but no surprise at all. The team has completely lost it edge. Despair will soon be settling in and the losses are gonna pile up hard.

2016 has been a bad year
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#2038 » by Prokorov » Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:32 am

Vae Victus wrote:A shame, but no surprise at all. The team has completely lost it edge. Despair will soon be settling in and the losses are gonna pile up hard.

2016 has been a bad year


lol what edge?
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#2039 » by playteamball » Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:34 am

Vae Victus wrote:A shame, but no surprise at all. The team has completely lost it edge. Despair will soon be settling in and the losses are gonna pile up hard.

2016 has been a bad year


Are you serious or joking? ;)
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Re: The Official Lin Net Thread 

Post#2040 » by hood30 » Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:42 am

Yeah, things are getting a bit out of control now....While I knew team performance would sure decrease with Lin out, I still didn't expect it to be that massive slide we're witnessing right now.

Lin will probably be out until December and when he comes back, it'll probably take him a few game to look like himself, so the season is probably done early...Too bad the injury to Lin has really crushed any chance of being competitive this year.

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