Sophomore Impressions 2016-17

[ChilledAlex]

No, he is not lacking them. But he could easily get more from all the opportunities he gets during games.
For example lets take game against the Blazers where he was frozen out in last 5 or so minutes. While he missed his last shot which was 3, Rose and Melo bricked or got blocked on multiple shots during those last 5 minutes. I get it, Rose and Melo want to be the heroes and Porzingis time will come, but you have to ride the hot hand, which at that moment was Kristaps.

From what I've seen from Knicks games, it's mostly Rose who freezes him out. I still think 18-20 shots per game is where he should be.

Porzingis is in great situation since day 1. People just seem to not get enough of KP.

He has trust and green light from coaches since day 1. He hasn't recieved anything but encouragement and praise from both teammates and opponents. He is having great position where he can develop in huge market without being crucified by media for his flaws. He is getting tons of good looks due to his teammates - Melo in particular who has been grooming him since the draft day while also being the only guy on last season Knicks who was really looking to involve KP in offence. Knicks are winning and KP is playing great and some diehard fans are still not satisfied.

I will tell you that KP is in the best position out of all other sophomores and it is so mainly due to dad Melo. All this bullcrap about whos team it is aka team KP vs team Melo is so dumb and pointless.

[guille_4]

No, he is not lacking them. But he could easily get more from all the opportunities he gets during games.
For example lets take game against the Blazers where he was frozen out in last 5 or so minutes. While he missed his last shot which was 3, Rose and Melo bricked or got blocked on multiple shots during those last 5 minutes. I get it, Rose and Melo want to be the heroes and Porzingis time will come, but you have to ride the hot hand, which at that moment was Kristaps.

From what I've seen from Knicks games, it's mostly Rose who freezes him out. I still think 18-20 shots per game is where he should be.

Porzingis is in great situation since day 1. People just seem to not get enough of KP.

He has trust and green light from coaches since day 1. He hasn't recieved anything but encouragement and praise from both teammates and opponents. He is having great position where he can develop in huge market without being crucified by media for his flaws. He is getting tons of good looks due to his teammates - Melo in particular who has been grooming him since the draft day while also being the only guy on last season Knicks who was really looking to involve KP in offence. Knicks are winning and KP is playing great and some diehard fans are still not satisfied.

I will tell you that KP is in the best position out of all other sophomores and it is so mainly due to dad Melo. All this bullcrap about whos team it is aka team KP vs team Melo is so dumb and pointless.

Absolutely.

Melo has been absolutely amazing with/for Kristaps and the whole Knicks organization have supported him from day 1.

Porzingis has done a great job working on his game during the summer and he's in a great situation to continue to improve and grow into a superstar.

[BugginOut]

Yeah people that want KP to ISO down the stretch underestimate how much pressure that puts on a 21 year old foreign kid. Let's say the Knicks go ISO KP down the stretch and he bricks multiple shots and the Knicks lose the game. The NY media would crucify him.

KP is taking plenty of efficient smart shots right now. There is no reason why he needs to force stuff. If he gets a good shot in the clutch I bet he take it.

[MartinsLusis]

No, he is not lacking them. But he could easily get more from all the opportunities he gets during games.
For example lets take game against the Blazers where he was frozen out in last 5 or so minutes. While he missed his last shot which was 3, Rose and Melo bricked or got blocked on multiple shots during those last 5 minutes. I get it, Rose and Melo want to be the heroes and Porzingis time will come, but you have to ride the hot hand, which at that moment was Kristaps.

From what I've seen from Knicks games, it's mostly Rose who freezes him out. I still think 18-20 shots per game is where he should be.

Porzingis is in great situation since day 1. People just seem to not get enough of KP.

He has trust and green light from coaches since day 1. He hasn't recieved anything but encouragement and praise from both teammates and opponents. He is having great position where he can develop in huge market without being crucified by media for his flaws. He is getting tons of good looks due to his teammates - Melo in particular who has been grooming him since the draft day while also being the only guy on last season Knicks who was really looking to involve KP in offence. Knicks are winning and KP is playing great and some diehard fans are still not satisfied.

I will tell you that KP is in the best position out of all other sophomores and it is so mainly due to dad Melo. All this bullcrap about whos team it is aka team KP vs team Melo is so dumb and pointless.

Actually Rambis didn't really give him the green light. But he's just a dumb head coach. Maybe a good assistant, but certainly not a head coach.

[ChaosHamster]

No, he is not lacking them. But he could easily get more from all the opportunities he gets during games.
For example lets take game against the Blazers where he was frozen out in last 5 or so minutes. While he missed his last shot which was 3, Rose and Melo bricked or got blocked on multiple shots during those last 5 minutes. I get it, Rose and Melo want to be the heroes and Porzingis time will come, but you have to ride the hot hand, which at that moment was Kristaps.

From what I've seen from Knicks games, it's mostly Rose who freezes him out. I still think 18-20 shots per game is where he should be.

Porzingis is in great situation since day 1. People just seem to not get enough of KP.

He has trust and green light from coaches since day 1. He hasn't recieved anything but encouragement and praise from both teammates and opponents. He is having great position where he can develop in huge market without being crucified by media for his flaws. He is getting tons of good looks due to his teammates - Melo in particular who has been grooming him since the draft day while also being the only guy on last season Knicks who was really looking to involve KP in offence. Knicks are winning and KP is playing great and some diehard fans are still not satisfied.

I will tell you that KP is in the best position out of all other sophomores and it is so mainly due to dad Melo. All this bullcrap about whos team it is aka team KP vs team Melo is so dumb and pointless.

KP is smart, he is taking good shots (mostly), doesn't force anything.

But I`am not sure about him having a green light to do anything that he wants.

Now everything is great indeed, but what will happen if team starts losing? Instead of focusing on KP`s development, and what he is doing great, everyone will focus on his weaknesses, because he needs to be better so this team can get to that 8th seed. And I'am not sure that pressure will be good for him.

[Side beard]

Yeah people that want KP to ISO down the stretch underestimate how much pressure that puts on a 21 year old foreign kid. Let's say the Knicks go ISO KP down the stretch and he bricks multiple shots and the Knicks lose the game. The NY media would crucify him.

KP is taking plenty of efficient smart shots right now. There is no reason why he needs to force stuff. If he gets a good shot in the clutch I bet he take it.

Key word here is good shot. With ball movement and passing anyone can get a good shot. This team have multiple shooters that can knock down any open shot. It is very painful to watch Melo or Rose play hero ball with so much time on the clock when it takes so little to get a better shot.
Also abusing mismatches should be a thing on this team. Melo and Kris can do that all day.

[MartinsLusis]

Just to illustrate the problem of KP not getting enough shots in the crunch. Here are the official clutch stats:

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Even Kuzminskas(!) has shot more than KP in the clutch. Melo has gone 0/6, Rose 6/10 and KP 1/1 in the clutch so far.

Just like the previous poster I don't have a problem with Melo taking many shots. The problem is Rose and him not moving the ball to KP when he's in a better position or on a hot shooting night and trying to force the shots themselves.

[MartinsLusis]

It's ideal if you ask him. He just said the other say he needs Melo around to take the pressure off. I think sometimes us fans have a vision of the way things should be but it's actually the opposite of whats preferred by the players themselves

Or that's something he says because he's clever and realises that it's the right thing to say... We will never know. Melo also freezes him out on offense from time to time.

Or maybe it's true. Because even Wally and Hahn said it after and showed highlights of his where Melo's man couldn't double of him.

Stop trying to cause a wedge where one doesn't exist

And maybe you are right. My point wasn't that they are enemies, can't cooperate or something like that. My point is that when you're asked such a question, there is only 1 correct answer so you can never know whats' really going on between the two. KP isn't the one who will tell the press that Melo is holding him back.

I'm not saying that Melo is holding him back. Right now they can benefit from each other. Melo can attack more easily because KP now sometimes commands double teams and KP benefits from the attention Melo gets. I'm more worried that Melo's ego will become a problem once KP surpasses Melo, because he has always been the go to guy. I'm quite convinced that Melo won't step down so easily.

The only thing I really dislike about Melo right now is that he's holding the ball for much too long. Knicks have looked much better when everyone keeps moving the ball and the offense flows. Melo himself has been getting good shots thanks to the team's ball movement. But once Melo starts attacking more, the flow just stops so many times...

Other than that he has helped KP's development even if sometimes he doesn't step down on time (like last game when he went 7 from 22 and KP was hot).

[dakomish23]

Or that's something he says because he's clever and realises that it's the right thing to say... We will never know. Melo also freezes him out on offense from time to time.

Or maybe it's true. Because even Wally and Hahn said it after and showed highlights of his where Melo's man couldn't double of him.

Stop trying to cause a wedge where one doesn't exist

And maybe you are right. My point wasn't that they are enemies, can't cooperate or something like that. My point is that when you're asked such a question, there is only 1 correct answer so you can never know whats' really going on between the two. KP isn't the one who will tell the press that Melo is holding him back.

I'm not saying that Melo is holding him back. Right now they can benefit from each other. Melo can attack more easily because KP now sometimes commands double teams and KP benefits from the attention Melo gets. I'm more worried that Melo's ego will become a problem once KP surpasses Melo, because he has always been the go to guy. I'm quite convinced that Melo won't step down so easily.

The only thing I really dislike about Melo right now is that he's holding the ball for much too long. Knicks have looked much better when everyone keeps moving the ball and the offense flows. Melo himself has been getting good shots thanks to the team's ball movement. But once Melo starts attacking more, the flow just stops so many times...

Other than that he has helped KP's development even if sometimes he doesn't step down on time (like last game when he went 7 from 22 and KP was hot).

Personally I think both are too for each other. I think Melo has fortified the already instilled confidence in this kid to be a go to option.

We all know KP will be the #1 option by next year the latest. I don't think the safety net of knowing you have a stud to carry the load is appreocted enough. That's it.

I want both of them to be 25 PPG scorers. More for KP if he can do it. Him becoming the #1 option only gives me more pause on a Melo trade. I'd rather maximize the window they have now.

The rebuild will happen no matter what At the latest it will happen by 2019. NOP is likely to have back to back draft lottery picks. I don't think anyone think it's too late for AD

[dakomish23]

Yeah people that want KP to ISO down the stretch underestimate how much pressure that puts on a 21 year old foreign kid. Let's say the Knicks go ISO KP down the stretch and he bricks multiple shots and the Knicks lose the game. The NY media would crucify him.

KP is taking plenty of efficient smart shots right now. There is no reason why he needs to force stuff. If he gets a good shot in the clutch I bet he take it.

Key word here is good shot. With ball movement and passing anyone can get a good shot. This team have multiple shooters that can knock down any open shot. It is very painful to watch Melo or Rose play hero ball with so much time on the clock when it takes so little to get a better shot.
Also abusing mismatches should be a thing on this team. Melo and Kris can do that all day.

It is not easy to get a good shot every possession and only becomes harder in crunch time. I'm all for it if we can get it and I think it's ridiculous we don't make the DRose KP or DRose Melo PnR the bread and butter.

It's just easier said than done. A lot of the good teams go ISO in crunch time because it's the easiest to execute.

[MartinsLusis]

Or maybe it's true. Because even Wally and Hahn said it after and showed highlights of his where Melo's man couldn't double of him.

Stop trying to cause a wedge where one doesn't exist

And maybe you are right. My point wasn't that they are enemies, can't cooperate or something like that. My point is that when you're asked such a question, there is only 1 correct answer so you can never know whats' really going on between the two. KP isn't the one who will tell the press that Melo is holding him back.

I'm not saying that Melo is holding him back. Right now they can benefit from each other. Melo can attack more easily because KP now sometimes commands double teams and KP benefits from the attention Melo gets. I'm more worried that Melo's ego will become a problem once KP surpasses Melo, because he has always been the go to guy. I'm quite convinced that Melo won't step down so easily.

The only thing I really dislike about Melo right now is that he's holding the ball for much too long. Knicks have looked much better when everyone keeps moving the ball and the offense flows. Melo himself has been getting good shots thanks to the team's ball movement. But once Melo starts attacking more, the flow just stops so many times...

Other than that he has helped KP's development even if sometimes he doesn't step down on time (like last game when he went 7 from 22 and KP was hot).

Personally I think both are too for each other. I think Melo has fortified the already instilled confidence in this kid to be a go to option.

We all know KP will be the #1 option by next year the latest. I don't think the safety net of knowing you have a stud to carry the load is appreocted enough. That's it.

I want both of them to be 25 PPG scorers. More for KP if he can do it. Him becoming the #1 option only gives me more pause on a Melo trade. I'd rather maximize the window they have now.

The rebuild will happen no matter what At the latest it will happen by 2019. NOP is likely to have back to back draft lottery picks. I don't think anyone think it's too late for AD

Yes. I hope that Knicks will sign or trade for a pass first PG next year though. Derrick ain't bad, but he isn't a facilitator really. I have really liked what Brandon Jennings has done so far. He's really been setting up his teammates. Of course he still does some boneheaded plays as well, but overall I have liked him at PG more than Rose up until now.

Then again maybe Derrick just needs more time to gel with KP and others.

[Hoopz Afrik]

I'm still waiting for Stanley Johnson to show up. Did he forget the season started?

[dakomish23]

I'm still waiting for Stanley Johnson to show up. Did he forget the season started?

5 6 7 8 9 compared to 10 11 12 13 14 is he wily sided toward the back end of that 2015 draft lottery class.

With all the hype so far for the 2015 draft class, it absolutely sucks to have come away with a to date dud.

As of now, it looks like there are at least 5 future All Stars in that class. Maybe more if guys like Mudiay can get going.

[PerkinsFor3]

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[pelifan]

Still remember Knicks fans boooing KP. those few oughta be a bit embarrassed now.

[richboy]

I don't think Melo has hurt KP much at all. It seems like Rose being one of the worst passing point guards in the league hurts him more than anything. I don't think they need a pass first PG. IMO they need a playmaker period. Someone who can score or pass to attack the defense. I wouldn't mind to see what he could do with higher usage. Think KP also needs more touches in the post.

[Wolfgang630]

Still remember Knicks fans boooing KP. those few oughta be a bit embarrassed now.

It seems like you non Knicks fans can't move on like Knicks fans have since last season.

[pelifan]

Still remember Knicks fans boooing KP. those few oughta be a bit embarrassed now.

It seems like you non Knicks fans can't move on like Knicks fans have since last season.

I didn't say you were booing KP. Just saying if I were on national TV booing a young kid who later blossomed as a star I'd be a bit embarrassed.

I'd be embarrassed just booing a kid on the best night of his life regardless of whether he was a bust.

[NYs Finest]

Still remember Knicks fans boooing KP. those few oughta be a bit embarrassed now.

It seems like you non Knicks fans can't move on like Knicks fans have since last season.

I didn't say you were booing KP. Just saying if I were on national TV booing a young kid who later blossomed as a star I'd be a bit embarrassed.

I'd be embarrassed just booing a kid on the best night of his life regardless of whether he was a bust.

Move on man, yes I'm not proud that stupid fans from my fanbase with no knowledge of who Porzingis was booed him that night, but this comes off bitter AF. It gets super annoying when every other non Knick fan tries to bring up "well you know, you guys did boo him". Thats what stupid unknowledgeable Knick fans at the draft do, they boo. It is what it is

[pelifan]

It seems like you non Knicks fans can't move on like Knicks fans have since last season.

I didn't say you were booing KP. Just saying if I were on national TV booing a young kid who later blossomed as a star I'd be a bit embarrassed.

I'd be embarrassed just booing a kid on the best night of his life regardless of whether he was a bust.

Move on man, yes I'm not proud that stupid fans from my fanbase with no knowledge of who Porzingis was booed him that night, but this comes off bitter AF. It gets super annoying when every other non Knick fan tries to bring up "well you know, you guys did boo him". Thats what stupid unknowledgeable Knick fans at the draft do, they boo. It is what it is

This is literally the first time I've ever uttered these thoughts, and I have the right to have them, whether they annoy you or not because they are valid.

Why would I be bitter? Kid is a stud and I hope he balls hard for the Knicks because it's good for the league and I appreciate one of a kind players.

Honestly you are the ones who need to get over your issue with other people thinking this. If I have to put up with all the valid criticisms and past stuff about my Pelicans and fan base that comes up all the time you should too.