Stan Van Gundy's 16-17 Season

[Han Solo]

Are you satisfied with the job he's done this year?

[MrBigShot]

A question better served for the end of the regular season, we are missing arguably our best player right now.

Yesterday we beat the best team in the NBA record wise. Today we lose against a decent thunder team (that are better than us record wise) on the road and people just go ballistic. Can't get too high or too low during the regular season.

I am satisfied with the roster has put together with what he had to work with and look forward to see what we look like when the guy people call Mr. 4th Quarter returns.

[DETermination]

2 games in .500 without our best player im happy with that so far, just wish we were a little more consistent. Also wish the nba would stop giving us so many back to backs every season.

[Han Solo]

A question better served for the end of the regular season, we are missing arguably our best player right now.

Yesterday we beat the best team in the NBA record wise. Today we lose against a decent thunder team (that are better than us record wise) on the road and people just go ballistic. Can't get too high or too low during the regular season.

I am satisfied with the roster has put together with what he had to work with and look forward to see what we look like when the guy people call Mr. 4th Quarter returns.

I've been disappointed with how he's handling rotations and his issues with Stanley Johnson. We have done a dreadful job with him.. He is not being developed right here.

[MrBigShot]

A question better served for the end of the regular season, we are missing arguably our best player right now.

Yesterday we beat the best team in the NBA record wise. Today we lose against a decent thunder team (that are better than us record wise) on the road and people just go ballistic. Can't get too high or too low during the regular season.

I am satisfied with the roster has put together with what he had to work with and look forward to see what we look like when the guy people call Mr. 4th Quarter returns.

I've been disappointed with how he's handling rotations and his issues with Stanley Johnson. We have done a dreadful job with him.. He is not being developed right here.

What do you think he should do differently in your opinion?

I feel like Stanley has kind of put himself in the dog house with his lackluster play and whatever he did to end up getting suspended. I agree he's not really being put in a position to develop very well, but since we are trying to make the playoffs we can't really afford to put the ball in his hands with the way he's played so far.

[JD43320]

Stanley sucks. He has a massive ego, a big mouth and no game. Maybe he doesn't play more because he doesn't do a single thing well offensively. If you want to be mad at SVG over Stanley be mad at him for drafting the bust not for keeping his sorry ass on the bench.

[sfballa13]

Stanley sucks. He has a massive ego, a big mouth and no game. Maybe he doesn't play more because he doesn't do a single thing well offensively. If you want to be mad at SVG over Stanley be mad at him for drafting the bust not for keeping his sorry ass on the bench.

Stanley needs to be traded before everyone realizes he is a bust and honestly it may be already too late

Package him with Baynes and let's get a player who can actually come off the bench and provide the instant offense we are sorely lacking

[coordinator0]

I've been disappointed with how he's handling rotations and his issues with Stanley Johnson. We have done a dreadful job with him.. He is not being developed right here.

I'm not happy with the (only) role available to Johnson right now, but I'm not sure what can be done. With leuer rightfully playing a lot of minutes at power forward that pushes Harris and Morris more to small forward, where they are also a bit better off. Tobias doesn't deserve to see his minutes cut. Marcus could be out there less but I'm not sure it would go too far towards developing Johnson in the right role since there still wouldn't be a significant amount of time available anyways.

It's just a tough spot for Stanley to be in. All that's left to him is shooting guard and he's going to have a lot of growing pains there adjusting to the NBA if that's where most of his time comes from. And it's probably not going to change much going forward unless a big trade is made... and he would likely be an outgoing part of it anyways.

[El Chivo]

Atrocius management of rotations and minutes

[Pharaoh]

A question better served for the end of the regular season, we are missing arguably our best player right now.

Yesterday we beat the best team in the NBA record wise. Today we lose against a decent thunder team (that are better than us record wise) on the road and people just go ballistic. Can't get too high or too low during the regular season.

I am satisfied with the roster has put together with what he had to work with and look forward to see what we look like when the guy people call Mr. 4th Quarter returns.

I've been disappointed with how he's handling rotations and his issues with Stanley Johnson. We have done a dreadful job with him.. He is not being developed right here.

What do you think he should do differently in your opinion?

I feel like Stanley has kind of put himself in the dog house with his lackluster play and whatever he did to end up getting suspended. I agree he's not really being put in a position to develop very well, but since we are trying to make the playoffs we can't really afford to put the ball in his hands with the way he's played so far.

A rotation that works for all parties:

Dre 33 / Baynes 10 / Jon Boy 5

Tobias or Mook 33 / Jon Boy 15

Not much to complain about so far except maybe Baynes seeing reduced minutes...but since he's gonna be gone anyway soon he can deal with it. On B2Bs or due to foul trouble Baynes gets more minutes

Tobias or Mook 33 / Stanimal 15

KCP 33 / Hilliard 15

RJ (Ish) 33 / Ish (Beno) 15

Starting line up is exactly what it was to end last season once RJ comes back. In the meantime we deal with Ish not being RJ, which helps others demand the ball more which should pay off long term anyway.

The "new & improved" bench puts SJ in the right role, sees us develop Hilly & SJ for the long term and allows Ish to really push the pace since Baynes & Jon Boy would be cleaning the defensive glass. In the meantime we play halfcourt with Beno as the PG as he's not equipped to run much anymore.

Regardless of who is the bench PG Stanimal is the secondary handler, Jon Boy & Hilly space the floor and Baynes is the tough guy in the paint.

It ain't up to me to write down a substitution pattern that SVG could implement - dude is paid millions for obvious reasons...but you can find minutes for anyone if you want to

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[detroitKG]

I don't really know what more SVG can do for this team in this day and age because screaming and yelling at guys in 2016 is a good way to have your guys turn on a coach..We've been missing our second most important player all year and we've played like it..Sure I'd like for him to be a bit more flexible with his rotations but that comes with the territory with SVG.

[Phenomenonsense]

A question better served for the end of the regular season, we are missing arguably our best player right now.

Yesterday we beat the best team in the NBA record wise. Today we lose against a decent thunder team (that are better than us record wise) on the road and people just go ballistic. Can't get too high or too low during the regular season.

I am satisfied with the roster has put together with what he had to work with and look forward to see what we look like when the guy people call Mr. 4th Quarter returns.

I've been disappointed with how he's handling rotations and his issues with Stanley Johnson. We have done a dreadful job with him.. He is not being developed right here.

I know you mean well Mario, just take a step back bro. Stan can't change rotations mid game, mostly because it cannot be in the player's minds that they will be pulled for missing a bad shot or lose out on minutes, because that only adds anxiety and leads to worse shooting, for example. He has to think about more with rotations than "this game."

[BadMofoPimp]

I didn't expect Championships or anything of that matter yet. It takes years to build a contender. Pistons are on a fine path towards success under SVG. People need patience and not expect it all at once.

[El Chivo]

mismanagement of rotations and questionable offensive quality don't regard patience, the process or something else. are mismanagement and mistakes, sic et simpliciter.

Van Gundy is a good coach, though. But we don't play a quality half court offense. Matter of fact. And 9 man rotation doesn't help our team in b2bs.

[Billl]

SVG the GM did a pretty good job with the roster. The upgrades at PG have let us hover around 0.500 with RJ out. If we were trotting out Blake and dinnwiddie still, we'd be in trouble. Leuer seems to be fitting in really nicely.

SVG the coach needs to find a way to get some contributions for SJ. Yes, it's the player's responsibility to work on their game and improve, but the best coaches find ways to get contributions from flawed players.

[theBigLip]

I'm ok with things so far. RJ is our motor, so it sucks not having him out there, but that will change soon. So SVG as GM is doing good - deep bench is a plus, lack of shooting at SG is a minus. SVG as a coach, doing ok as well, although it is better judged in the spring since we should be improving all the time.

It will be interesting to see if we pull off a trade or not - I like the SJ/Baynes combo as bait.

[In SVG We Trust]

What a bad coach who can't turn Ish Smith into Westbrook and yells Dre to let people score in the paint.

[Cowology]

The Stanley thing is difficult because nobody really knows what is going on behind closed doors.

If SVG has tasked him with working on certain parts of his game or filling a specific role on offense/defense and Stanley had not held up his end, then I have no problem with SVG holding him accountable. If he's in the dig house due to a poor attitude, bordering on insubordination or just generally being disrespectful to his teammates or coaches then that is on him.

We don't really know. I'm inclined to give SVG the benefit of the doubt here and say if SVG is doing something it's with the intent of developing him. Not all development happens on the big screen and not all lessons require a media announcement.

[DetPistons04]

The Stanley thing is difficult because nobody really knows what is going on behind closed doors.

If SVG has tasked him with working on certain parts of his game or filling a specific role on offense/defense and Stanley had not held up his end, then I have no problem with SVG holding him accountable. If he's in the dig house due to a poor attitude, bordering on insubordination or just generally being disrespectful to his teammates or coaches then that is on him.

We don't really know. I'm inclined to give SVG the benefit of the doubt here and say if SVG is doing something it's with the intent of developing him. Not all development happens on the big screen and not all lessons require a media announcement.

I agree 100%, the discussion can end now after this excellent comment.

[DetPistons04]

Fans can blame the teams early season inconsistencies on Stan if they want, but the bottom line is that these players are all adults and highly paid professional athletes playing in the NBA on fully guaranteed contracts. It's on THEM to bring the necessary energy and execution to every game they play. This isn't a "Stan problem" to me because look at how well and how hard they play at The Palace. This is a players issue. I could see blaming Stan and his coaching staff if they played with poor effort all the time, but that's simply not the case.

Stan and the rest of the coaches can preach, plead, yell, and beg all they want for consistent maximum effort, but it's the PLAYERS who need to get on the floor and make it happen. Stan works an insane amount of hours and puts everything he has into his job and expects the same in return from his players. I don't blame Stan at all for being frustrated with these guys.