Ranma wrote:I agree with AGAVE that the Dodgers seem inclined to let Jansen and Turner sign elsewhere in order to get the compensatory picks. I just have concerns about getting suitable replacements for them. The White Sox do seem like a fitting trade partner for us, but there does seem to be more openness expressed by the Rays, Tigers, and A's with the notion of dealing away Archer, Verlander, and Gray, respectively. A lot of people are convinced that Tampa Bay will deal one of their starters this offseason with speculation centering around it being either Archer or Odorizzi with Cobb and Smyly also as possibilities. Including Robertson in a package with Sale from the White Sox would scratch off a couple of big items from of our to-do list.
However, the cost would be high and it would be unavoidable to not include De Leon in a trade for Sale, which I'd be fine with, but if we can get Verlander without having to pay as much and not include De Leon, then I'd be tempted to go make a deal with Detroit over Chicago. I'm still not keen on acquiring Eaton, especially with the cost from our side. I was also an advocate for acquiring Frazier last year, but this winter that is a less attractive proposition for me, though I'm still open to it.
I'm also encouraged to hear names like Calhoun and Verdugo are drawing trade interest, but I remain quite reluctant to part with Bellinger. It's interesting that Puig's name has been bandied about in the talks with the White Sox but I'm hesitant to even part with him until we get more legitimate right-handed power bats into the lineup. Ryan Braun does not qualify for me.
I'm convinced we're going to get a legit #2 starter this offseason, so I want to push again to deal Kazmir to the Yankees for one of their prospects ranked in the latter half of the top 12 in their system.
glad we are all pretty much in agreement that Ryan Braun does not qualify for the long term solution of righty power bat. I do also agree that we are probably in search of #2 pitcher after seeing how short handed we were in the post season.
with regard to Jansen and Turner, there is a rumor brewing about the Cubs going after our Jansen. them winning it all this season, makes their pick essentially an early second rounder and prefer Jansen to sign with a team like the Marlins. I don't like the Angels rumor about Turner either. Angels hold the 10th overall pick and we will get stuck with their second rounder. would rather see him go back to the Mets. having said that, I wonder if we are better off signing them back. I suppose it all really depends how many and what type of prospects it will cost to replace them in the market place, as their departures will bring in a pair of top 50 talents from the next draft. say it costs us Trevor Oaks, Branden Davis, Brock Stewart, Walker Buehler, and Kyle Farmer to get a closer and a third baseman, does the cost justify if we get prospects that are equivalent to two Jordan Sheffields?