bwgood77 wrote:NavLDO wrote:Jdiddy701 wrote:NavLDO - I'm hard on Len because I know the money that's going to come at him this offseason. I don't always see the effort in his play. What do you think he's worth? That's what worries me, the suns being stuck with Alex Len with a "max" 5-year contract.
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Well, considering what I posted earlier today about Mahinmi's and Mozgov's contracts, and how he wipes the floor with what they've ever provided in a season, and they just got $16M, I'd say upwards of $20M.
Now, I know that sounds crazy, but it's the going rate for 'bigs'...heck, for anyone in the NBA. But that $20M is worth about $12M 2 years ago, so you have to look at it in those $...you can't look at it in the same way of Chandler's Contract. He would've gotten $20M this summer, had we signed him in the exact same scenario as we did a year and a half ago.
So, that's what I would expect...and IMO, I wouldn't worry about how uncoordinated Len looks out there; worry about the fact that he's getting it done defensively. If he starts to regress to his Oct numbers, then I'd wholeheartedly...and did, just ask BW...agree with you.
I'm not that worried about what Len gets because our cap situation is really good. I don't think we are going to find a major difference maker in FA and I think we deal Knight and Bledsoe's contract will end around the time we need to pay Warren and Booker. We are in a good situation cap wise. I think too many people focus on dollars, like 3-5 million difference is that big of a deal when otherwise you lose a guy for nothing. If we can use him in a major trade to land a serious difference maker, fine. But if not, why let him walk? He rebounds at a rate that is as good as anyone else does any particular stat relatively other than maybe Chandler's rebounding and Warren's steal rate. That alone is worth it to me, because we out rebound people which we need.
And I just watched some of the game, and something I'm seeing from Len now that I'm able to watch more of the game than just highlights, and that is, that when the Suns are on Offense, Len is very active doing what he can do, to set screens to get our Guards/SFs better looks from outside. So no, he's not banging down low on offense a lot, which probably accounts for the fact that he doesn't get as many ORebs in relation to DRebs, but I like the fact that he uses his athleticism to put himself in good positions to help the team offensively. So that fact, ALSO, disputes the claims that he looks like a rookie. A rookie wouldn't know how/where/when to set those screens the way he does, and be as active as he is offensively, rather than just sit around down low waiting for a shot to come, or a pass to come to shoot a hook, lay-up, or back-down an opponent to the basket.
Anyway, I'm not worried about how much we pay Len either; to me, he's worth a solid contract, so long as he remains as constructive as he's been in November on Defense, and on Offense doing the little things that aren't measured in stats.