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Re: Bradley on Brown: "he's going to prove a lot of people wrong" 

Post#421 » by shawn unkempt » Sun Nov 27, 2016 2:42 am

Jeez, some of you guys take criticisms of players way too personally.
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Re: Bradley on Brown: "he's going to prove a lot of people wrong" 

Post#422 » by pasfru » Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:59 pm

shawn unkempt wrote:Jeez, some of you guys take criticisms of players way too personally.

Talk **** about Jaylen, you'll have to go through me first :evil: :lol:
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Post#423 » by return2glory » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:57 pm

Over the last few weeks, he has been playing less than 10 minutes per game. I like to see his playing time go up about 14-16 minutes per game in the month of December. For that to happen, his defensive awareness has to improve and he has to be more assertive on the offensive end.
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Re: Bradley on Brown: "he's going to prove a lot of people wrong" 

Post#424 » by ermocrate » Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:37 pm

return2glory wrote:Over the last few weeks, he has been playing less than 10 minutes per game. I like to see his playing time go up about 14-16 minutes per game in the month of December. For that to happen, his defensive awareness has to improve and he has to be more assertive on the offensive end.

Not that we have way better players on the bench. Maybe letting him in will help him adjust. Just like Popovic did with his rookie
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Re: Bradley on Brown: "he's going to prove a lot of people wrong" 

Post#425 » by celticfan42487 » Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:17 pm

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return2glory wrote:Over the last few weeks, he has been playing less than 10 minutes per game. I like to see his playing time go up about 14-16 minutes per game in the month of December. For that to happen, his defensive awareness has to improve and he has to be more assertive on the offensive end.

Not that we have way better players on the bench. Maybe letting him in will help him adjust. Just like Popovic did with his rookie



He's been horrific out there though and just flat out horrible defensively. He hasn't earned more minutes, that's for sure.
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Re: Bradley on Brown: "he's going to prove a lot of people wrong" 

Post#426 » by Walker88Boston » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:11 pm

celticfan42487 wrote:
ermocrate wrote:
return2glory wrote:Over the last few weeks, he has been playing less than 10 minutes per game. I like to see his playing time go up about 14-16 minutes per game in the month of December. For that to happen, his defensive awareness has to improve and he has to be more assertive on the offensive end.

Not that we have way better players on the bench. Maybe letting him in will help him adjust. Just like Popovic did with his rookie



He's been horrific out there though and just flat out horrible defensively. He hasn't earned more minutes, that's for sure.
No it's not for sure at all. Thats just your ignorant opinion. He's just turned 20 and has showed a lot of potential. The best way for him to improve is through playing time and sense were not contending this year anyway, please explain how he hasn't earned any more playing time. Only way to get better defensively is to play
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Re: Bradley on Brown: "he's going to prove a lot of people wrong" 

Post#427 » by jmr07019 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:23 pm

Jaylen's minutes. Most recent game up top of list, first game at bottom of list.

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Yes he hasn't played a lot in the last 4 games but ups and downs for a rookie are expected. He still is averaging 15 mpg. If he continues to see less than 10 mpg over the next 4-6 games then I will get concerned but right now it just looks like variance for a guy who plays 15 mpg.

We've had this conversation many times throughout the years and regardless of your thoughts on how much playing time effects development it is clear the path Ainge and Stevens are taking. I get frustrated too it just seems like an excersise in futility to have this convo when we all know what the team is going to do.

Here's to hoping Brown has a breakout game of sorts tn.
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Post#428 » by Walker88Boston » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:55 pm

Image Here this goes out to all the self anointed GMs who were crying on draft night. Your boy kris Dunn who's 2 years older than jaylen isn't more developed. He can barely earn minutes on a terrible team.
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Post#429 » by chrisab123 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:54 pm

Walker88Boston wrote:Image Here this goes out to all the self anointed GMs who were crying on draft night. Your boy kris Dunn who's 2 years older than jaylen isn't more developed. He can barely earn minutes on a terrible team.


Thibs is also gunshy to play rookies. If I had to pick Dunn vs Brown over again I would still take Dunn. Better offensive talent. Its one thing if he was behind Ish Smith and not getting minutes but last I checked Rubio was an okay point guard.
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Post#430 » by Gomes3PC » Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:18 pm

The more I've seen of Brown, the more I disagree that Dunn is the better offensive talent. I actually am more bullish about Dunn defensively than Brown but the explosive first step and advanced ballhandling Brown has displayed at his age suggests he has the chance to be a #1/#2 scorer on a contending team IMO.
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Re: Bradley on Brown: "he's going to prove a lot of people wrong" 

Post#431 » by Slartibartfast » Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:41 pm

jmr07019 wrote:Jaylen's minutes. Most recent game up top of list, first game at bottom of list.

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Yes he hasn't played a lot in the last 4 games but ups and downs for a rookie are expected. He still is averaging 15 mpg. If he continues to see less than 10 mpg over the next 4-6 games then I will get concerned but right now it just looks like variance for a guy who plays 15 mpg.

We've had this conversation many times throughout the years and regardless of your thoughts on how much playing time effects development it is clear the path Ainge and Stevens are taking. I get frustrated too it just seems like an excersise in futility to have this convo when we all know what the team is going to do.

Here's to hoping Brown has a breakout game of sorts tn.


The last 4 games aren't random variance though - the drop came immediately after Jae returned.

When the top 9 are healthy, Jaylen will be hardpressed to get more than 10mpg. There's just not much room for him. Smart is gobbling up all of the back-up wing minutes with AB/Jae lingering with the bench in the 2nd half to keep shooting on the floor.

I think we should play him at smallball 4 over Jerebko and accept the downgrade as an investment in Jaylen's development/trade value. That'll get him a solid floor of 20mpg as 4th wing and 4th big.
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Re: Bradley on Brown: "he's going to prove a lot of people wrong" 

Post#432 » by return2glory » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:19 pm

I know one thing and so does everyone else. The really good ones, you can't hold down for too long. Jaylen needs to keep working. He isn't ready for big minutes yet.

Hopefully he shows the coaching staff something in the next month or two.
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Re: Bradley on Brown: "he's going to prove a lot of people wrong" 

Post#433 » by jmr07019 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:50 pm

Slartibartfast wrote:
jmr07019 wrote:Jaylen's minutes. Most recent game up top of list, first game at bottom of list.

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Yes he hasn't played a lot in the last 4 games but ups and downs for a rookie are expected. He still is averaging 15 mpg. If he continues to see less than 10 mpg over the next 4-6 games then I will get concerned but right now it just looks like variance for a guy who plays 15 mpg.

We've had this conversation many times throughout the years and regardless of your thoughts on how much playing time effects development it is clear the path Ainge and Stevens are taking. I get frustrated too it just seems like an excersise in futility to have this convo when we all know what the team is going to do.

Here's to hoping Brown has a breakout game of sorts tn.


The last 4 games aren't random variance though - the drop came immediately after Jae returned.

When the top 9 are healthy, Jaylen will be hardpressed to get more than 10mpg. There's just not much room for him. Smart is gobbling up all of the back-up wing minutes with AB/Jae lingering with the bench in the 2nd half to keep shooting on the floor.

I think we should play him at smallball 4 over Jerebko and accept the downgrade as an investment in Jaylen's development/trade value. That'll get him a solid floor of 20mpg as 4th wing and 4th big.


Fair enough but I think Brown will continue to see 15 mpg. It is rare to have the top 9 all healthy especially considering our guys injury histories. He'll get 10 mpg when everybody is healthy but more when guys are out.

I also think Brown is not far from replacing Jerebko as the 4th big / small ball 4. Before last game Brad did an interview for the radio and he talked about how well jerebko has been playing lately. I don't expect jerebko to be continue the hot play. He was pretty terrible to start the season. Brown will get his chance to get those minutes back from Jerebko. Even while looking lost he has still shown his athleticism to be elite among NBA athletes and has scored the ball decently.
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Re: Bradley on Brown: "he's going to prove a lot of people wrong" 

Post#434 » by Fidel Sarcasmo » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:58 pm

Jerebko is playing worse than anyone out there.
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Post#435 » by SichtingLives » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:15 pm

I enjoy how we copy and paste a different name onto this topic every year and pretend that careers are being ruined. Switch a few words around and this could be a standard 'New Englander complains about the weather' thread.
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Post#436 » by shawn unkempt » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:40 pm

SichtingLives wrote:I enjoy how we copy and paste a different name onto this topic every year and pretend that careers are being ruined. Switch a few words around and this could be a standard 'New Englander complains about the weather' thread.

Hardly any of our young players are doing anything significant for us though. Smart is about the only player we've drafted that's actually contributing to wins.
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Post#437 » by Green89 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:49 pm

Fidel Sarcasmo wrote:Jerebko is playing worse than anyone out there.


He actually hasn't been that bad in the most recent games he's played. A lot better than the awful stretch earlier this season.
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Re: Bradley on Brown: "he's going to prove a lot of people wrong" 

Post#438 » by Patsfan1081 » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:54 am

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Fidel Sarcasmo wrote:Jerebko is playing worse than anyone out there.


He actually hasn't been that bad in the most recent games he's played. A lot better than the awful stretch earlier this season.


Because he's been yanked very quickly after Stevens sees something he doesn't like. I understand players need to earn their minutes(though with lottery teams sometimes college play/lottery position is earning minutes) but I just don't know how you can possible do that on such a short leash. You want players to be aggressive then they're going to make mistakes. You want to trade for a franchise talent then this team is going to need some of their young players to vastly improve as assets. Everyone agrees that this team isn't a even close to challenging the better teams in the league yet we don't want to sacrifice the possible growing pains of a player like Brown. Doesn't really make sense to me.
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Re: Bradley on Brown: "he's going to prove a lot of people wrong" 

Post#439 » by Patsfan1081 » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:00 am

shawn unkempt wrote:
SichtingLives wrote:I enjoy how we copy and paste a different name onto this topic every year and pretend that careers are being ruined. Switch a few words around and this could be a standard 'New Englander complains about the weather' thread.

Hardly any of our young players are doing anything significant for us though. Smart is about the only player we've drafted that's actually contributing to wins.


That's been a issue in recent years and the big difference between the team that was able to trade for KG and co. Rozier has been a very efficient scorer yet isn't either aggressive enough to find his shot or doesn't get many plays called through him. How much is on the coaching staff and how much is on the players when we see guys like Rozier and Brown not involved enough in the offense?
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Re: Bradley on Brown: "he's going to prove a lot of people wrong" 

Post#440 » by darylbe » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:33 am

Rozier looks good, but he still forces everything and turns over the ball like its summer league.

Don't understand why brown isn't playing with a fifteen point lead half way thru the 4th but f-it

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