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Re: Kyle Lowry might see Spurs as an alternative option, would that make sense for him? 

Post#61 » by kieferli » Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:39 pm

And for the ppls think we are stupid to keep Lowry for other 5 years I think they never run a business . Even Lowry is not the same after 30 years old but he will stil better than many player in NBA. He is heart and soul of the team , even how good DD play lately I will still think Lowry is our best player . You can see +/- when he is in Game we have no choice to play him heavy mins . Without him playing like that we will loss so many game . Also have to see any top team like Spurs , Laker, will trade away this Stars? Like Tim Duncan , Kobe they all stay with their team until they retire. Those are the top company to show if their top player loyal to them they will also doing same. This is why they have so many top player want to join them. We will be one day like Spurs in the EAst we are in a right direction to build a winning faranchis.
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Re: Kyle Lowry might see Spurs as an alternative option, would that make sense for him? 

Post#62 » by LastNameEver » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:32 pm

This article only exists to make sure Lowry and his agent get the max from us.
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Post#63 » by MavCarter » Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:28 am

kieferli wrote:And for the ppls think we are stupid to keep Lowry for other 5 years I think they never run a business . Even Lowry is not the same after 30 years old but he will stil better than many player in NBA. He is heart and soul of the team , even how good DD play lately I will still think Lowry is our best player . You can see +/- when he is in Game we have no choice to play him heavy mins . Without him playing like that we will loss so many game . Also have to see any top team like Spurs , Laker, will trade away this Stars? Like Tim Duncan , Kobe they all stay with their team until they retire. Those are the top company to show if their top player loyal to them they will also doing same. This is why they have so many top player want to join them. We will be one day like Spurs in the EAst we are in a right direction to build a winning faranchis.


Kyle lowry isn't tim duncan or kobe bryant get real lol. He's been a huge part of the organization's recent success but we have no obligation to give him the kobe treatment because he helped lead us to the conference finals 1 year. It's funny that you bring the spurs up because parker, ginobili and duncan have took big discounts in order for the spurs to remain competitive. It doesn't look like lowry has any interest in that, and he shouldn't he obviously deserves to get paid. Like i said i have no problem with a 3 year max with possibly a 4th year team option but no thanks to anything more.
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Post#64 » by Jonn » Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:40 am

LJKO wrote:In before TradeLowry comments :lol:; Tempting but he'll be back with us next season he won't leave his other half brother and Masai loves the continuum and don't break what is not broken yet; I can go to say Lowry and Demar will retire a Raptors :wink:


I bet you would give Lowry 5 years 140 million and worry about how disaster it is later
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Post#65 » by vjkid » Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:55 am

I was thinking Indiana would be a nice fit for him with PG13 and Myles Turner.
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Re: Kyle Lowry might see Spurs as an alternative option, would that make sense for him? 

Post#66 » by Gold Dragon » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:45 am

Jonn wrote:
LJKO wrote:In before TradeLowry comments :lol:; Tempting but he'll be back with us next season he won't leave his other half brother and Masai loves the continuum and don't break what is not broken yet; I can go to say Lowry and Demar will retire a Raptors :wink:


I bet you would give Lowry 5 years 140 million and worry about how disaster it is later


That disaster is much better than the disaster of letting him walk.

3 years max is perfect but unlikely. 4 years max is not ideal but not terrible. 5 years max is problematic but I would say calling it a disaster is a bit of hyperbole. He will easily earn his contract for 2 years and I can see him having a slow decline so that only the last year of his contract will be an albatross. One thing to consider is that Demar's contract will be over then and he will be able to give the team a hometown discount to retire in Toronto.

Lowry definitely deserves it after being so underpaid for the last 3 years of this contract.
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Post#67 » by SHFT » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:24 am

steamed hams wrote:Why? Spurs are a treadmill team. Raps have Casey.

and NormGod

seriously though couldn't hate on him for at least considering it but SA would have to do some serious shifting to make room for him but I guess they are the best at finding gems on minimum contracts.

interesting note from those posting he would clash with popovich...I never considered that but it makes sense. But it's Gregg Popovich we are talking about so there is also a chance he uses jedi mind tricks OR Lowry accepting Pops structure. he has gone on record to say he regretting how his situation in Houston played out and would likely be open to a more restricted role if it meant a shot at titles.

however, when demar was a FA there were sooooo many US based articles that assumed he would leave (with good reason given our history I guess) but we knew this situation was different and that demar was not going anywhere.

can we say the same about lowry?

demars biggest threat was LA (obvious choice with there capspace and it being his him town) but he would be jumping from a playoff team to a losing team....Lowry would go from playoff team to contenders.

Damn the more I think about this the more I think it is entirely possible and definitely not going to happen at the same time

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Post#68 » by Johnny Bball » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:41 am

Jonn wrote:
LJKO wrote:In before TradeLowry comments :lol:; Tempting but he'll be back with us next season he won't leave his other half brother and Masai loves the continuum and don't break what is not broken yet; I can go to say Lowry and Demar will retire a Raptors :wink:


I bet you would give Lowry 5 years 140 million and worry about how disaster it is later


Who thinks this teams window is longer than 4 years anyway.
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Post#69 » by Jonn » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:49 am

Johnny Bball wrote:
Jonn wrote:
LJKO wrote:In before TradeLowry comments :lol:; Tempting but he'll be back with us next season he won't leave his other half brother and Masai loves the continuum and don't break what is not broken yet; I can go to say Lowry and Demar will retire a Raptors :wink:


I bet you would give Lowry 5 years 140 million and worry about how disaster it is later


Who thinks this teams window is longer than 4 years anyway.


This team doesn't have a window to win a championship lol.
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Post#70 » by Johnny Bball » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:56 am

Jonn wrote:
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Jonn wrote:
I bet you would give Lowry 5 years 140 million and worry about how disaster it is later


Who thinks this teams window is longer than 4 years anyway.


This team doesn't have a window to win a championship lol.


Then what the hell are you worried about. I guess it will go from winning to sucking and you'll be happy.
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Post#71 » by Gold Dragon » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:57 am

Jonn wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:
Jonn wrote:
I bet you would give Lowry 5 years 140 million and worry about how disaster it is later


Who thinks this teams window is longer than 4 years anyway.


This team doesn't have a window to win a championship lol.


This team also
1) couldn't get past the first round
2) was swept by the cavs in the ECF
3) is worse than the celtics or pacers with their shiny free agents
4) is not a contender

People will continue to underestimate these guys and they will continue to prove em.
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Post#72 » by Skeezo » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:24 am

Love Lowry and certainly want him to stay but forget 5 years and forget Max dollars... Not even close... This isn't the same DeRozan Max we are talking about here... Lowry is a 10-year Vet, no way we are paying him 35% of a 90m cap with raises over 4-5 years.... And I'll be shocked if any other team with that type of space will actually ball up and offer it to him... Who's got 31m in open cap space next year, after everyone blew their loads this year and willing to spend it on a 31-year-old PG?
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Post#73 » by Jonn » Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:07 am

Johnny Bball wrote:
Jonn wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:
Who thinks this teams window is longer than 4 years anyway.


This team doesn't have a window to win a championship lol.


Then what the hell are you worried about. I guess it will go from winning to sucking and you'll be happy.


I would rather lose and hope to get lucky by drafting a Superstar than get locked into a mediocre team that will never be good enough to win anything important. If you can't acquire another significant piece to put yourself in position to beat the Cavs you get out and start over. Signing Lowry long term would be a massive mistake without adding a Cousins type player.
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Post#74 » by Gold Dragon » Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:06 am

Jonn wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:
Jonn wrote:
This team doesn't have a window to win a championship lol.


Then what the hell are you worried about. I guess it will go from winning to sucking and you'll be happy.


I would rather lose and hope to get lucky by drafting a Superstar than get locked into a mediocre team that will never be good enough to win anything important. If you can't acquire another significant piece to put yourself in position to beat the Cavs you get out and start over. Signing Lowry long term would be a massive mistake without adding a Cousins type player.


I don't understand why there are still people who believe this flawed thinking.

1. Losing Lowry will not make the Raptors bad enough to get a top 3 pick
2. Losing Lowry is guaranteed to put us in a treadmill position as we are a young talented team now without its leader and best player and no way to replace him because we are capped out.
3. Even if you get a top 3 pick, it is still very unlikely you get a superstar player
4. There are many teams that have drafted "superstars" but did not have the surrounding talent or system/culture to take them far (Cousins, George, Chris Paul in Cha, Antony Davis, Carmelo)
5. Even when you pull off the perfect tank like OKC of getting 3 superstar players in 3 consecutive years it is no guarantee of anything

Tanking/starting over type talk really needs to stop. There are some teams this applies to like the Mavs, Heat and Nets. But kids who are used to playing video games and just hitting restart when they aren't winning do not live in reality and think that 28 of 30 NBA franchises should be tanking.
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Post#75 » by Gold Dragon » Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:55 am

Skeezo wrote:Love Lowry and certainly want him to stay but forget 5 years and forget Max dollars... Not even close... This isn't the same DeRozan Max we are talking about here... Lowry is a 10-year Vet, no way we are paying him 35% of a 90m cap with raises over 4-5 years.... And I'll be shocked if any other team with that type of space will actually ball up and offer it to him... Who's got 31m in open cap space next year, after everyone blew their loads this year and willing to spend it on a 31-year-old PG?


Teams that will have space for a max salary in 2017
PHI
BOS
DAL (if they do not exercise Dirk's team option)
BKN
PHX

I can see all of these teams offering Lowry the max with BC, Cuban and Ainge all targeting Kyle. If Toronto doesn't offer Kyle the max, he will be the best free agent on the market with Curry, KD, Griffin, Paul likely getting max offers at 12:01 to stay with their teams.
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Post#76 » by Gold Dragon » Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:14 pm

The Spurs would have to make some trades and maneuver some contracts to create room for Lowry.


They would either have to hope Gasol does not exercise his player option or salary dump Aldridge or Parker to make room for a max contract. I think all these options are highly unlikely.
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Post#77 » by CoachD » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:24 pm

Lowry is NOT going to the Spurs this off season in a David West type move. He won't leave 10s of millions on the table.... so the only way SA can make it happen is if they significantly gut their team.
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Post#78 » by Rapcity_11 » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:36 pm

CoachD wrote:Lowry is NOT going to the Spurs this off season in a David West type move. He won't leave 10s of millions on the table.... so the only way SA can make it happen is if they significantly gut their team.


All they really have to do is get rid of Parker. I wouldn't call that significantly gutting their team.
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Post#79 » by Rapcity_11 » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:40 pm

Gold Dragon wrote:DAL (if they do not exercise Dirk's team option)


It's really gotta be if Dirk decides to retire you would think...right?
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Post#80 » by CoachD » Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:34 pm

Rapcity_11 wrote:
CoachD wrote:Lowry is NOT going to the Spurs this off season in a David West type move. He won't leave 10s of millions on the table.... so the only way SA can make it happen is if they significantly gut their team.


All they really have to do is get rid of Parker. I wouldn't call that significantly gutting their team.



So they are going to cut one of their franchise icons and Lowry is going to agree to sign for 14.5 per

Nope.
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