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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#461 » by TheSuzerain » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:43 pm

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TheSuzerain wrote:Robert Williams on A&M may deserve his own thread.


sooooo first time seeing him play last night against the Bruins. Ummmm yeah. Something scary there with that kid. I'll save it for the head to head because I don't want to jump out the window just yet BUT I will say I can't wait to see him versus Bam Adebayo to see who's better. I'm reserving judgment for the time being since this was just a first impression. Pretty similar in what they bring to the table.

Yeah, I tuned in to watch Lonzo Ball, but I left amazed by Williams.

He also was the victim of one of the worst T's ever.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#462 » by Marcus » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:13 pm

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TheSuzerain wrote:Robert Williams on A&M may deserve his own thread.


sooooo first time seeing him play last night against the Bruins. Ummmm yeah. Something scary there with that kid. I'll save it for the head to head because I don't want to jump out the window just yet BUT I will say I can't wait to see him versus Bam Adebayo to see who's better. I'm reserving judgment for the time being since this was just a first impression. Pretty similar in what they bring to the table.

Yeah, I tuned in to watch Lonzo Ball, but I left amazed by Williams.

He also was the victim of one of the worst T's ever.


Thought it was pretty hilarious that he started to say it again but caught himself on that next block shot.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#463 » by TheSuzerain » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:19 am

Not really a draft sleeper, but how about Charlie Moore!
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#464 » by BoyzNTheHood » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:59 am

Bonzie Colson is a huge sleeper. If he wasn't 6'4" he'd be a first rounder. But that near 7 foot wingspan makes up for a lot. Plus, the dude goes and gets it.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#465 » by studcrackers » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:02 am

Fischella wrote:Holy hell Jawun Evans, the guy is damn amazing, dont even know how many possesions did he had, almost 40 I'd say, but superefficient, no turnovers for the usage he has, and he can do it all, really high on him


as a big time ok st homer i agree, him and brad underwood have me excited for the basketball program this year. i hope he can stay healthy this year
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#466 » by Ruzious » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:11 pm

treefi wrote:Peter Jok on Iowa... 25.3ppg in 27.8mpg on 53.1% shooting, 45.3% from 3(4.0/8.8 per game) and he is 6'6" 210.

I don't know if his terrific 3 point shooting/scoring is sustainable, but he's making himself a solid 2nd rounder - after not being a prospect after 3 years of college. Problem - he'll be a 23 year old senior. 6'6 guys who can shoot 3's like him can find a spot on an NBA roster.
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Post#467 » by Justwar » Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:09 pm

If he's a legit 6'6 he's got a chance.

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Post#468 » by doordoor123 » Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:02 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:Bonzie Colson is a huge sleeper. If he wasn't 6'4" he'd be a first rounder. But that near 7 foot wingspan makes up for a lot. Plus, the dude goes and gets it.


I actually don't think so in terms of skill and athleticism. He's a weird tweener. He's a power forward in a SGs body and he isn't quick/doesn't have speed. I can see him as a roleplayer in the NBA and maybe as a guy that stands in the corner shooting open 3s (if he can develop that part of his game).
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#469 » by GimmeDat » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:29 am

What do people feel like Juwan Evans potential draft stock is?
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#470 » by jonjames » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:35 am

GimmeDat wrote:What do people feel like Juwan Evans potential draft stock is?



Love his game he's my biggest sleeper prospect. Unfortunately he's in a loaded pg draft class, but I'd imagine he will be a mid to late 1st rounder.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#471 » by Ruzious » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:14 pm

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GimmeDat wrote:What do people feel like Juwan Evans potential draft stock is?



Love his game he's my biggest sleeper prospect. Unfortunately he's in a loaded pg draft class, but I'd imagine he will be a mid to late 1st rounder.

Jawun. Fischella talked about him a couple pages back. Kid was a HS All American, Big 12 frosh of the year, now having an amazing soph season. A freakishly good scorer at 6' and a pest on defense. Yeah, if there weren't so many quality PG prospects who are bigger than him, he'd be getting a lot more attention.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#472 » by No-Man » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:23 pm

I think highest he can go is in the 20s somewhere, and rightfully so honestly, he might break the mold and be a starter at one point, but although important, getting a back up Guard is sort of easy if you scout the draft well, even in the undrafted pool
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#473 » by Ruzious » Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:01 pm

Fischella wrote:I think highest he can go is in the 20s somewhere, and rightfully so honestly, he might break the mold and be a starter at one point, but although important, getting a back up Guard is sort of easy if you scout the draft well, even in the undrafted pool

Too soon... to label him a backup. HS All-American, Big 12 Frosh of the Year despite missing 12 games with an injury, sophomore season - so far has the best stats in the nation for a guard.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#474 » by No-Man » Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:50 pm

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Fischella wrote:I think highest he can go is in the 20s somewhere, and rightfully so honestly, he might break the mold and be a starter at one point, but although important, getting a back up Guard is sort of easy if you scout the draft well, even in the undrafted pool

Too soon... to label him a backup. HS All-American, Big 12 Frosh of the Year despite missing 12 games with an injury, sophomore season - so far has the best stats in the nation for a guard.

no doubt, but he is not a major athlete and has below avg size, I like how hard and smart he plays and he can do a variety of things, but even Lowry who is the same dog and was tough as nails and is a million times the athlete, didnt really break up as a fulltime starter and star player until 3-4 years ago and he has had to really hone his shooting skills.
I like Jawun, just saying that unless you are projecting him as basically as good as Dennis Smith Jr. of a prospect, there is not really a reason to draft him much higher than in the twenties.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#475 » by Ruzious » Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:58 pm

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Fischella wrote:I think highest he can go is in the 20s somewhere, and rightfully so honestly, he might break the mold and be a starter at one point, but although important, getting a back up Guard is sort of easy if you scout the draft well, even in the undrafted pool

Too soon... to label him a backup. HS All-American, Big 12 Frosh of the Year despite missing 12 games with an injury, sophomore season - so far has the best stats in the nation for a guard.

no doubt, but he is not a major athlete and has below avg size, I like how hard and smart he plays and he can do a variety of things, but even Lowry who is the same dog and was tough as nails and is a million times the athlete, didnt really break up as a fulltime starter and star player until 3-4 years ago and he has had to really hone his shooting skills.
I like Jawun, just saying that unless you are projecting him as basically as good as Dennis Smith Jr. of a prospect, there is not really a reason to draft him much higher than in the twenties.

I wouldn't use Lowry as a guide, because he came out as a completely different type of player - a unique player - low offensive skill level but tremendous defender and rebounder for someone that size - just a tremendously tenacious player who gradually improved offensively. Jawun does seem to have some of that tenaciousness on defensive, but his scoring skills are far more advanced at age 20 than Lowry's was. If a player isn't an elite athlete but still performs better than everyone else, you have to factor in that he might not need to be an elite athlete to succeed in the NBA.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#476 » by studcrackers » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:43 pm

only real thing holding back Evans is his size imo
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Post#477 » by jonjames » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:48 pm

I don't think theres any question if Jawun Evans was a better athlete he would go lottery maybe even top 10.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#478 » by BoyzNTheHood » Thu Dec 1, 2016 6:09 am

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BoyzNTheHood wrote:Bonzie Colson is a huge sleeper. If he wasn't 6'4" he'd be a first rounder. But that near 7 foot wingspan makes up for a lot. Plus, the dude goes and gets it.


I actually don't think so in terms of skill and athleticism. He's a weird tweener. He's a power forward in a SGs body and he isn't quick/doesn't have speed. I can see him as a roleplayer in the NBA and maybe as a guy that stands in the corner shooting open 3s (if he can develop that part of his game).


The reason's that you stated why you don't like him are exactly why he's a sleeper.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#479 » by skywalker33 » Thu Dec 1, 2016 6:36 am

How about this guy out of Temple, Obi Enechionyia. He's 6'10 scoring 20/9 shooting 56% from 3pt range !!!
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Exactly as I've been saying all along !!
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Post#480 » by doordoor123 » Fri Dec 2, 2016 4:28 am

skywalker33 wrote:How about this guy out of Temple, Obi Enechionyia. He's 6'10 scoring 20/9 shooting 56% from 3pt range !!!


Cannot keep a man in front of him on defense, can't set screens, needs to gain weight, good vertical, but slow running, good off-ball defense (smart player), good shooter. He's pretty much Steve Novak with a bit more athleticism.

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