Game 19: Pistons (8-10) @ Hornets (10-7) - 7:00 EST

[Blkbrd671]

We've looked really, really good when Dre hasn't been on the floor this year.

Just like the Magic looked with Gorat. Dre still is the key to our absolute success

Interestingly enough his NETRTG, ON/OFF, and +/- are all negative. Also imo this year he's looked pretty mediocre despite his traditional averages , he depends heavily on Reggie for him to have a positive impact on the game.

because he doesn't bring it every night defensively. DRE and SJ have the same problem, they think there value stems from what they bring offensively and pay too much attention to it when there road to being "dominant" is defense. I wish SVG would bench Dre anytime that idioit tries to post up and holds his position when a guards slashing. He has no recognition and as a PG its so f* irritating.

[Blkbrd671]

Found this on Mlive by a poster. Found it interseting.

Among Central Division teams, the Pistons have played:

The most games overall (18)
The most games against .500 or better teams (11)
The most road games against .500 or better teams (6)
The most back-to-back’s (4)
The most road B2B’s (3)
The most sets of 3-in-4 nights (4)
The fewest games with more than one day of rest (two, including opening night)


By contrast:

Milwaukee has played only five games against .500 or better teams
The Bucks and Cavs have each played only one road game against a .500 or better team
The Pacers have played 12 home games thus far
The Cavs have played only two B2B’s (one on the road), and one set of 3-in-4 nights
The Cavs have played six games with 2+ days of rest

i did read that our SOS has been ridiculous and the fact that we are near .500 without or PG is just as ridiculous. To see it in context is even more impressive. I believe we are actually ahead of some teams by a weeks worth of games meaning that extra rest time later in the season is going to be real important to getting a breathier.

[joedumars1]

Found this on Mlive by a poster. Found it interseting.

Among Central Division teams, the Pistons have played:

The most games overall (18)
The most games against .500 or better teams (11)
The most road games against .500 or better teams (6)
The most back-to-back’s (4)
The most road B2B’s (3)
The most sets of 3-in-4 nights (4)
The fewest games with more than one day of rest (two, including opening night)


By contrast:

Milwaukee has played only five games against .500 or better teams
The Bucks and Cavs have each played only one road game against a .500 or better team
The Pacers have played 12 home games thus far
The Cavs have played only two B2B’s (one on the road), and one set of 3-in-4 nights
The Cavs have played six games with 2+ days of rest

i did read that our SOS has been ridiculous and the fact that we are near .500 without or PG is just as ridiculous. To see it in context is even more impressive. I believe we are actually ahead of some teams by a weeks worth of games meaning that extra rest time later in the season is going to be real important to getting a breathier.

yeah it puts our start in a little different perspective. I was going to be happy being .500 or close without RJ. Seeing that and us being close to .500 without RJ is nice.

I am worried about RJ coming back and controlling the ball to much. I remember last year, KCP would have the mid range shot falling and be passing it good, but if RJ got the ball he wouldn't differ to him, KCP didn't really want to pass it to RJ either when he was having them type of games. At least it seemed like that to me in the 3-5 games KCP had where he was dishing and hitting mid range last year

[DETermination]

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[In SVG We Trust]

I don't see Toddy the psycho nowhere. How can a guy be that coward?

[Pharaoh]

Found this on Mlive by a poster. Found it interseting.

Among Central Division teams, the Pistons have played:

The most games overall (18)
The most games against .500 or better teams (11)
The most road games against .500 or better teams (6)
The most back-to-back’s (4)
The most road B2B’s (3)
The most sets of 3-in-4 nights (4)
The fewest games with more than one day of rest (two, including opening night)


By contrast:

Milwaukee has played only five games against .500 or better teams
The Bucks and Cavs have each played only one road game against a .500 or better team
The Pacers have played 12 home games thus far
The Cavs have played only two B2B’s (one on the road), and one set of 3-in-4 nights
The Cavs have played six games with 2+ days of rest

Does our schedule level out later?

Or are we just victims all season long?

IF it levels out then we could come storming home at the right time and have momentum heading towards the playoffs.

That would be awesome!

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[joedumars1]

Found this on Mlive by a poster. Found it interseting.

Among Central Division teams, the Pistons have played:

The most games overall (18)
The most games against .500 or better teams (11)
The most road games against .500 or better teams (6)
The most back-to-back’s (4)
The most road B2B’s (3)
The most sets of 3-in-4 nights (4)
The fewest games with more than one day of rest (two, including opening night)


By contrast:

Milwaukee has played only five games against .500 or better teams
The Bucks and Cavs have each played only one road game against a .500 or better team
The Pacers have played 12 home games thus far
The Cavs have played only two B2B’s (one on the road), and one set of 3-in-4 nights
The Cavs have played six games with 2+ days of rest

Does our schedule level out later?

Or are we just victims all season long?

IF it levels out then we could come storming home at the right time and have momentum heading towards the playoffs.

That would be awesome!

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I think it will even out. I'm not sure tho

[engelbert321]

Tommorrow's game in Boston going to be very tough. B2B for us, and the Celtics are rested.

At least Dre will be rested

[DetroitSho]

Found this on Mlive by a poster. Found it interseting.

Among Central Division teams, the Pistons have played:

The most games overall (18)
The most games against .500 or better teams (11)
The most road games against .500 or better teams (6)
The most back-to-back’s (4)
The most road B2B’s (3)
The most sets of 3-in-4 nights (4)
The fewest games with more than one day of rest (two, including opening night)


By contrast:

Milwaukee has played only five games against .500 or better teams
The Bucks and Cavs have each played only one road game against a .500 or better team
The Pacers have played 12 home games thus far
The Cavs have played only two B2B’s (one on the road), and one set of 3-in-4 nights
The Cavs have played six games with 2+ days of rest

Seriously how does this happen every freaking year? What is it about our schedule that always puts us in the toughest early position? I see if there was scheduling conflict with the Palace like the Bulls and circus, or the Spurs with the rodeo. But what is the reasoning behind this for us?

[Pharaoh]

Found this on Mlive by a poster. Found it interseting.

Among Central Division teams, the Pistons have played:

The most games overall (18)
The most games against .500 or better teams (11)
The most road games against .500 or better teams (6)
The most back-to-back’s (4)
The most road B2B’s (3)
The most sets of 3-in-4 nights (4)
The fewest games with more than one day of rest (two, including opening night)


By contrast:

Milwaukee has played only five games against .500 or better teams
The Bucks and Cavs have each played only one road game against a .500 or better team
The Pacers have played 12 home games thus far
The Cavs have played only two B2B’s (one on the road), and one set of 3-in-4 nights
The Cavs have played six games with 2+ days of rest

Seriously how does this happen every freaking year? What is it about our schedule that always puts us in the toughest early position? I see if there was scheduling conflict with the Palace like the Bulls and circus, or the Spurs with the rodeo. But what is the reasoning behind this for us?

Say it with me now:

Defense does not equal entertainment!

Also:

Malice in the Palace
3 Championships
No Superstar

One would think a team with our history would get some "luck" but from the Draft to the schedule we always miss out.

After a while it just becomes the usual

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[Redeemed]

Thrilled with the win. Got hot when Dre got ejected but the team kept playing with such focus and resolve.

This game and the game against the Clippers are our best games this season so far.

[whitehops]

can't listen to the post game interview now, so no clue if SVG mentioned SJ's offense, but i believe the reason SJ's sitting his because of his miscues on defense. Ideally you'd rather have SJ as he allows you defensive versatility with your lineups more than hilliard, however SJ is not reading the floor well , has multiple defensive lapses on assignments in the same game and offensively impacting us negatively. SJ since day one has always been the lesser offensive player to Hilliard, so i don't think this is a revelation to SVG but rather Hilliard stepping up defensively.



I mean think about it KCP been a sh* offensive player for the past 3 seasons(according to this board) but yet plays the most minutes.

he said that he's struggling offensively and then pointed to the team being -9 in the 8 minutes he was on the court and that the team was struggling offensively with him in the game. he said hilliard's making more plays which is why he played him over SJ in the second half. he said specifically that SJ's defense was fine so it sounds like he was benched, at least yesterday, because of his offense.

[hoophabit]

KCP 6/14, only 1 steal and 1 block. This guy $ucks!

Ish is growing on me. Guy hustles all the time. Pesky defender. Puts pressure on opponents defense. Loved the play where he ran it up the Hornets' back. In his intended role he should be a good asset.

[TurboTitan]

Tobias and Leuer aren't 3pt shooters

[MotownMadness]

Tobias and Leuer aren't 3pt shooters

Tobias is at least serviceable there and Leuer is better then shown so far. Leuer did shoot 38% from 3 last season which is pretty damn good for a big.

[Moses ShamMoses]

Tobias and Leuer aren't 3pt shooters

Tobias is at least serviceable there and Leuer is better then shown so far. Leuer did shoot 38% from 3 last season which is pretty damn good for a big.

Leuer's 3pt shooting has been pretty bad so far...its not even that he is missing but is WAY OFF (wide right) more than he should be.

[MotownMadness]

Tobias and Leuer aren't 3pt shooters

Tobias is at least serviceable there and Leuer is better then shown so far. Leuer did shoot 38% from 3 last season which is pretty damn good for a big.

Leuer's 3pt shooting has been pretty bad so far...its not even that he is missing but is WAY OFF (wide right) more than he should be.

I'm not to worried about it, We will see where he's at All Star break. I don't know how you go from a 38% shooting 3 stretch 4 to a bad shooter at his age like that.

[Blkbrd671]

can't listen to the post game interview now, so no clue if SVG mentioned SJ's offense, but i believe the reason SJ's sitting his because of his miscues on defense. Ideally you'd rather have SJ as he allows you defensive versatility with your lineups more than hilliard, however SJ is not reading the floor well , has multiple defensive lapses on assignments in the same game and offensively impacting us negatively. SJ since day one has always been the lesser offensive player to Hilliard, so i don't think this is a revelation to SVG but rather Hilliard stepping up defensively.



I mean think about it KCP been a sh* offensive player for the past 3 seasons(according to this board) but yet plays the most minutes.

he said that he's struggling offensively and then pointed to the team being -9 in the 8 minutes he was on the court and that the team was struggling offensively with him in the game. he said hilliard's making more plays which is why he played him over SJ in the second half. he said specifically that SJ's defense was fine so it sounds like he was benched, at least yesterday, because of his offense.

ya i went back and watched the interview. Your absolutely right

[Blkbrd671]

Tobias and Leuer aren't 3pt shooters

Tobias is at least serviceable there and Leuer is better then shown so far. Leuer did shoot 38% from 3 last season which is pretty damn good for a big.

Low Key is still a young developing player and you can tell that he gets into his own head at times. He does so much more than shoot 3's and the versatility we have with him at the 5 , gives us mismatches

[mercury]

Make a note of this road win... possible tie breaker at game #82.