Where is Nerlens?

76ciology · Post #1181 » by **76ciology** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:33 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:

Read on Twitter

It's all planned. Then we'll likely trade Noel by feb at deadline. Something new every month to get fans interest going despite all the losing.

Tony Franciosa · Post #1182 » by **Tony Franciosa** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:37 pm

A few weeks? I thought this was a 2-3 week deal when it went down before the season started. This team makes it really hard some times.

76ciology · Post #1183 » by **76ciology** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:47 pm

So he's going to play for Sevens? Thats a big sacrifice from him IMO

Eyeamok · Post #1184 » by **Eyeamok** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:19 pm

76ciology wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:

Read on Twitter

It's all planned. Then we'll likely trade Noel by feb at deadline. Something new every month to get fans interest going despite all the losing.

It's a great time to be a 76ers fan. Always something going on. This basketball team is live 12 months a year. Our off season on this board is usually more busy than a lot of teams regular season.

DusterBuster · Post #1185 » by **DusterBuster** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 1:28 am

Noel has hinted he would like to play elsewhere when he does return, and the Sixers are attempting to accommodate him. He is part of a crowded frontcourt that includes second-year center Jahlil Okafor and rookie Joel Embiid.

Several teams, including Portland, have recently held discussions with the Sixers about Noel.

http://amicohoops.net/sixers-assign-unhappy-noel-to-d-league/

Post #1186 » by **CoreyGallagher** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 1:35 am

Not sure what could be traded. Crabbe would make sense due to his availability and fit, but a bad contract with an additional 15% trade kicker - yuck.

Negrodamus · Post #1187 » by **Negrodamus** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 1:44 am

CoreyGallagher wrote:Not sure what could be traded. Crabbe would make sense due to his availability and fit, but a bad contract with an additional 15% trade kicker - yuck.

Bring me McCollum. Perfect faux PG for us.

Post #1188 » by **Sixerscan** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 1:46 am

Negrodamus wrote:
CoreyGallagher wrote:Not sure what could be traded. Crabbe would make sense due to his availability and fit, but a bad contract with an additional 15% trade kicker - yuck.

Bring me McCollum. Perfect faux PG for us.

No way you're getting McCollum back for either of the centers at this point.

Either way Portland has a bit of a big man log jam themselves. Seems like the whole league does.

Negrodamus · Post #1189 » by **Negrodamus** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 1:51 am

Sixerscan wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
CoreyGallagher wrote:Not sure what could be traded. Crabbe would make sense due to his availability and fit, but a bad contract with an additional 15% trade kicker - yuck.

Bring me McCollum. Perfect faux PG for us.

No way you're getting McCollum back for either of the centers at this point.

Either way Portland has a bit of a big man log jam themselves. Seems like the whole league does.

Well obviously not straight up.

Noel and RoCo? Noel, RoCo and Luwawu or Korkmaz?

2 instant contributors in positions of need. Bring Crabbe in as SG.

sixerswillrule · Post #1190 » by **sixerswillrule** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 1:56 am

CoreyGallagher wrote:Not sure what could be traded. Crabbe would make sense due to his availability and fit, but a bad contract with an additional 15% trade kicker - yuck.

Yup no thanks on a player who is currently ~150th best in the league but 31st highest paid in the league (will be around 50th highest paid for the rest of his contract after more players sign under the new cap).

Eyeamok · Post #1191 » by **Eyeamok** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 1:59 am

DusterBuster wrote:
Noel has hinted he would like to play elsewhere when he does return, and the Sixers are attempting to accommodate him. He is part of a crowded frontcourt that includes second-year center Jahlil Okafor and rookie Joel Embiid.

Several teams, including Portland, have recently held discussions with the Sixers about Noel.

http://amicohoops.net/sixers-assign-unhappy-noel-to-d-league/

Does this mean that Evan Turner will be back in a 76ers uniform soon?

ankle420breaker · Post #1192 » by **ankle420breaker** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 2:00 am

sixerswillrule wrote:
CoreyGallagher wrote:Not sure what could be traded. Crabbe would make sense due to his availability and fit, but a bad contract with an additional 15% trade kicker - yuck.

Yup no thanks on a player who is currently ~150th best in the league but 31st highest paid in the league (will be around 50th highest paid for the rest of his contract after more players sign under the new cap).

Agreed. Zero interest in Crabbe. Noel in an extremely limited role is still a better value than Crabbe.

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Post #1193 » by **Sixerscan** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 2:02 am

Eyeamok wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:
Noel has hinted he would like to play elsewhere when he does return, and the Sixers are attempting to accommodate him. He is part of a crowded frontcourt that includes second-year center Jahlil Okafor and rookie Joel Embiid.

Several teams, including Portland, have recently held discussions with the Sixers about Noel.

http://amicohoops.net/sixers-assign-unhappy-noel-to-d-league/

Does this mean that Evan Turner will be back in a 76ers uniform soon?

I don't think this board could handle Okafor and Turner on the same roster.

Eyeamok · Post #1194 » by **Eyeamok** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 2:06 am

DusterBuster · Post #1195 » by **DusterBuster** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 2:07 am

Negrodamus wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
Bring me McCollum. Perfect faux PG for us.

No way you're getting McCollum back for either of the centers at this point.

Either way Portland has a bit of a big man log jam themselves. Seems like the whole league does.

Well obviously not straight up.

Noel and RoCo? Noel, RoCo and Luwawu or Korkmaz?

2 instant contributors in positions of need. Bring Crabbe in as SG.

You're not getting CJ in any deal. That's just not going to happen. The deal will go nowhere if that's where Philly is thinking. And there's nothing really they can add (within reason) that would change the Blazers mind.

I have to believe it's gonna be Crabbe as the centerpiece of a deal. It's easy to complain about a guy making 18+mil per year when his stats are so low. You have to take context into account here though. He has an extremely limited offensive role in Portland where his main use by Stotts is to be an offensive decoy to stretch the defenses for Lillard and CJ to operate. So yeah, at only 7 or 8 shots per game as a backup, he's never going to get a chance to prove he's worth that deal.

Now you take him and put him in a starters role and give him an opportunity to shoot 14-15 times per game, his numbers are going to be far closer to what you'd want out of a player getting paid what he is.

Plus side for Crabbe's contract as well, you guys probably will get more from Portland in the way of picks and promising young players like Vonleh or Layman.

Post #1196 » by **CoreyGallagher** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 2:12 am

Crabbe has an $18.7m average salary with a 15% trade kicker, so we would be paying him $21.5m on average.

HW can correct me if I'm wrong about any that. I just can't imagine that being the centerpiece.

phifans · Post #1197 » by **phifans** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 2:28 am

Noel for Harkless is something I would like to do.
Hark seems a good fit for Simmons as 3／4

DusterBuster · Post #1198 » by **DusterBuster** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 2:39 am

CoreyGallagher wrote:Crabbe has an $18.7m average salary with a 15% trade kicker, so we would be paying him $21.5m on average.

HW can correct me if I'm wrong about any that. I just can't imagine that being the centerpiece.

That is correct, and that's why Portland's probably gonna have to surrender some 1st round picks on top of Crabbe.

phifans wrote:Noel for Harkless is something I would like to do.
Hark seems a good fit for Simmons as 3／4

I doubt Portland's trading Harkless for Noel. Harkless is coming around to the Blazers 3rd option on offense and plays really good defense. He's basically their do-it-all guy and they're really high on him.

Noel's red flags with his injury, attitude and contract situation (up for a huge pay raise) are all going to bring his value down in terms of what Portland (and any other team) is willing to pay. Here's the pieces I think are up for grabs from the Blazers for Noel....

Crabbe
Leonard
Napier
Layman
Davis
Vonleh
Connaughton
Ezeli
POR 1st Rounder (lottery protected... maybe a bit less depending on how the rest of the deal looks)
CLE 1st Rounder
2nd Rounders (whatever ones they have available)

You find some sort of combination of those players and picks for Noel and I think Portland does it.

freshie2 · Post #1199 » by **freshie2** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 2:45 am

Harkless and a bench big for Noel and Thompson...it's only right that he comes back home to resolve all the issues created by the Bynum deal.

I like the length and defensive versatility he brings, and if the 3pt shooting sticks, he could be incredibly valuable.

DusterBuster · Post #1200 » by **DusterBuster** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 2:51 am

freshie2 wrote:Harkless and a bench big for Noel and Thompson...it's only right that he comes back home to resolve all the issues created by the Bynum deal.

I like the length and defensive versatility he brings, and if the 3pt shooting sticks, he could be incredibly valuable.

I really don't believe Portland would trade Harkless, but I'm less convinced about that than I am about CJ being off-the-table.

Any chance of Harkless going would have to include Leonard going with him.