The TJ Warren Thread!

Post #441 » by **lilfishi22** » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:27 am

Too confusing. I'd like to think it's just an odd injury

PackSuns · Post #442 » by **PackSuns** » Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:17 pm

Getting more nervous by the day.

Zelaznyrules · Post #443 » by **Zelaznyrules** » Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:26 pm

PackSuns wrote:Getting more nervous by the day.

I'm not sure if you know this but he's not actually day to day anymore. It was reported a few days ago that he will be out for at least 2 more weeks. So, not much of a reason to get more nervous by the day IMO. Unless you're worried we're going to trade him away and I can't help you there, I'm worried about that also.

PackSuns · Post #444 » by **PackSuns** » Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:02 pm

Zelaznyrules wrote:
PackSuns wrote:Getting more nervous by the day.

I'm not sure if you know this but he's not actually day to day anymore. It was reported a few days ago that he will be out for at least 2 more weeks. So, not much of a reason to get more nervous by the day IMO. Unless you're worried we're going to trade him away and I can't help you there, I'm worried about that also.

I am aware that he is not day to day. Everything about the situation is bizarre. I have my reasons for being nervous.

Saberestar · Post #445 » by **Saberestar** » Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:23 pm

Come on guys... we are not simulating an strange injury to sitting Warren for a month and then trade him.

What a conspiracy, it is too much.

PackSuns · Post #446 » by **PackSuns** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:05 am

Saberestar wrote:Come on guys... we are not simulating an strange injury to sitting Warren for a month and then trade him.

What a conspiracy, it is too much.

That's not what I was implying.

TeamTragic · Post #447 » by **TeamTragic** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:06 am

PackSuns wrote:
Zelaznyrules wrote:
PackSuns wrote:Getting more nervous by the day.

I'm not sure if you know this but he's not actually day to day anymore. It was reported a few days ago that he will be out for at least 2 more weeks. So, not much of a reason to get more nervous by the day IMO. Unless you're worried we're going to trade him away and I can't help you there, I'm worried about that also.

I am aware that he is not day to day. Everything about the situation is bizarre. I have my reasons for being nervous.

Why are you nervous? I think that it might not be a trade. However it might mean Warren out for the season. I hope I'm wrong.

LukasBMW · Post #448 » by **LukasBMW** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:18 am

GoranTragic wrote:
PackSuns wrote:
Zelaznyrules wrote:
I'm not sure if you know this but he's not actually day to day anymore. It was reported a few days ago that he will be out for at least 2 more weeks. So, not much of a reason to get more nervous by the day IMO. Unless you're worried we're going to trade him away and I can't help you there, I'm worried about that also.

I am aware that he is not day to day. Everything about the situation is bizarre. I have my reasons for being nervous.

Why are you nervous? I think that it might not be a trade. However it might mean Warren out for the season. I hope I'm wrong.

This is my concern. Maybe it is a more serious medical condition like Bosh or Frye. :banghead:

Post #449 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:20 am

It's not hard to be nervous when your bright spot thus far this season is sitting out for a few weeks, because of some injury which we have no detail of and supposedly has to do with his head. Then when you throw in trade speculations from fans, it's no wonder some fans are uneasy.

TeamTragic · Post #450 » by **TeamTragic** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:21 am

LukasBMW wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
PackSuns wrote:

I am aware that he is not day to day. Everything about the situation is bizarre. I have my reasons for being nervous.

Why are you nervous? I think that it might not be a trade. However it might mean Warren out for the season. I hope I'm wrong.

This is my concern. Maybe it is a more serious medical condition like Bosh or Frye.

That would be **** awful. The basketball gods need to give Warren their blessing.

Post #451 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:54 am

LukasBMW wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
PackSuns wrote:

I am aware that he is not day to day. Everything about the situation is bizarre. I have my reasons for being nervous.

Why are you nervous? I think that it might not be a trade. However it might mean Warren out for the season. I hope I'm wrong.

This is my concern. Maybe it is a more serious medical condition like Bosh or Frye.

That's my biggest concern, and I don't want to jump to any conclusions, but if for instance, they found a tumor in his head, and my guess is that if this is the case, it was benign, and they would probably remove it. I don't know how long this takes or if it could have already been done and resting for a week and no activity is all that is needed.

I've been thinking there is a chance it is that. If it was a benign tumor and was removed, then everything about wanting to keep it secret and being out for weeks or indefinitely makes more sense. If it as malignant, I doubt we would have seen him at the game.

I know that sounds serious but I don't know what other head injury there could be. They can get inflamed and cause various symptoms, some of which were somewhat described.

Benign brain tumors usually have clearly defined borders and usually are not deeply rooted in brain tissue. This makes them easier to surgically remove, assuming they are in an area of the brain that can be safely operated on. But even after they've been removed, they can still come back, although benign tumors are less likely to recur than malignant ones.

Although benign tumors in other parts of the body can cause problems, they are not generally considered to be a major health problem or to be life-threatening. But even a benign brain tumor can be a serious health problem. Brain tumors damage the cells around them by causing inflammation and putting increased pressure on the tissue under and around it as well as inside the skull.

What Are the Symptoms of a Brain Tumor in Adults?
Symptoms of brain tumors vary according to the type of tumor and the location. Because different areas of the brain control different functions of the body, where the tumor lies affects the way symptoms are manifested.

Some tumors have no symptoms until they are quite large and then cause a serious, rapid decline in health. Other tumors may have symptoms that develop slowly.

A common initial symptom of a brain tumor is headaches. Often, they don't respond to the usual headache remedies. Keep in mind that most headaches are unrelated to brain tumors.

Other symptoms include:

Seizures
Changes in speech or hearing
Changes in vision
Balance problems
Problems with walking
Numbness or tingling in the arms or legs
Problems with memory
Personality changes
Inability to concentrate
Weakness in one part of the body

http://www.webmd.com/cancer/brain-cancer/brain-tumors-in-adults?page=2

Again, this is just something it could be. Doubtful, but I am pretty worried it is serious. This sounds serious, but if removed, I don't think it's much of a health issue other than that they could come back (but benign tumors have a much less likely chance of recurring than malignant ones).

I hope it's not anything serious. He was the main reason this season was somewhat exciting at the beginning of the year.

MathiasPW · Post #452 » by **MathiasPW** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:06 am

Luckily lack of smiling is not a symptom.

mojo13 · Post #453 » by **mojo13** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:55 pm

Consulting WebMD always equals cancer.

another rumor/speculation I heard was that it was a vertigo inducing ear infection. Similar symptoms, relatively minor and can take some time to get up to speed.

jcsunsfan · Post #454 » by **jcsunsfan** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:01 pm

They said it was an "injury". To me that rules out cancer etc. Maybe he had his headset on too loud and it damaged his balance in his ears. Who knows.

Weemsickew14 · Post #455 » by **Weemsickew14** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:17 pm

On the Suns snapchat stories, you can see Warren in the gym practicing so that is a good sign. We need TJ back ASAP he might be the best basketball player on our roster.

mojo13 · Post #456 » by **mojo13** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:21 pm

hearing more steam behind the vertigo rumor. Which seem to make the most sense. Great to hear is back practicing.

Post #457 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:29 pm

Inner ear infection? That's a common cause of vertigo.

mojo13 · Post #458 » by **mojo13** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:36 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:Inner ear infection? That's a common cause of vertigo.

Yes - that is the speculation. Nothing substantiated but the symptoms and guidance given seem to support that.

Takes a little time for the infection to go away and the vertigo to back off. But all in usually fairly minor. Could be why the two games he played but only a handful of minutes before he pulled out. He was probably feeling "off" in those games - something wrong, but not knowing what it was. Vertigo is not necessarily the condition of being obviously and aggressively dizzy, but can be the feeling of tilting, swaying or generally being off balance. Like after being on a boat in swaying seas for a long time.

The only scary part is I remember Pau Gasol has his season shut down in Match/April 2014 because of severe vertigo. Hopefully this is not near as bad. Tyler Hansborough missed a season because of it too - but I think these were both more serious underlying problems. I don't think either were simply a symptom brought on by an ear infection (which I hope is merely TJs issue).

RaisingArizona · Post #459 » by **RaisingArizona** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 12:05 am

Vertigo is a hell of a thing to experience. It would make sense but why wouldn't they announce that then?

Saberestar · Post #460 » by **Saberestar** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 12:24 am

ginobiliflops wrote:Vertigo is a hell of a thing to experience. It would make sense but why wouldn't they announce that then?

That's a really good question.