Game 19: Hawks @ Suns

[Zelaznyrules]

Good news:
We finally won a game!

Bad news:
It was ugly

Worse news:
We are not very good.

Hope:
As mentioned above, Booker, Bledsoe, TJ, and Knight have yet to all play good games at the same damn time. We'd actually be 500 right now if 2 of the 4 were available AND if 2 of the 4 played well each game.

And there's nothing like being 500. Two years ago at 39-43 was so fun. Thank God that late lotto pick turned into Booker. We could have been worse and gotten a higher pick and the rumor at the time was that McD really wanted WCS. A higher pick would have probably netted us him instead of Booker which would have gotten him canned by now. McD probably owes Booker his job, even though Booker hasn't been playing that well.

Booker might have saved his job but I'm not so sure it had anything to do with WCS. Prior to Ryan, leaks were common but not so much with him in place. From the comments about him shortly after the draft, I suspect Booker was their guy all along with Kaminski the other high priority.

[bwgood77]

Good news:
We finally won a game!

Bad news:
It was ugly

Worse news:
We are not very good.

Hope:
As mentioned above, Booker, Bledsoe, TJ, and Knight have yet to all play good games at the same damn time. We'd actually be 500 right now if 2 of the 4 were available AND if 2 of the 4 played well each game.

And there's nothing like being 500. Two years ago at 39-43 was so fun. Thank God that late lotto pick turned into Booker. We could have been worse and gotten a higher pick and the rumor at the time was that McD really wanted WCS. A higher pick would have probably netted us him instead of Booker which would have gotten him canned by now. McD probably owes Booker his job, even though Booker hasn't been playing that well.

Booker might have saved his job but I'm not so sure it had anything to do with WCS. Prior to Ryan, leaks were common but not so much with him in place. From the comments about him shortly after the draft, I suspect Booker was their guy all along with Kaminski the other high priority.

I do believe that after the draft McD always says whoever he drafted was his guy all along. Had he drafted any of three different guys, he would say that. Yes, there was mention of Kaminsky, but on draft night there was a little talk of Booker but also if WCS slipped he would definitely take him. I don't think they thought Kaminsky would slip but that they might need to trade up to get him. I'll have to go back to look at the draft thread to see exactly where that had come from.

[kennydorglas]

And there's nothing like being 500. Two years ago at 39-43 was so fun. Thank God that late lotto pick turned into Booker. We could have been worse and gotten a higher pick and the rumor at the time was that McD really wanted WCS. A higher pick would have probably netted us him instead of Booker which would have gotten him canned by now. McD probably owes Booker his job, even though Booker hasn't been playing that well.

Booker might have saved his job but I'm not so sure it had anything to do with WCS. Prior to Ryan, leaks were common but not so much with him in place. From the comments about him shortly after the draft, I suspect Booker was their guy all along with Kaminski the other high priority.

I do believe that after the draft McD always says whoever he drafted was his guy all along. Had he drafted any of three different guys, he would say that. Yes, there was mention of Kaminsky, but on draft night there was a little talk of Booker but also if WCS slipped he would definitely take him. I don't think they thought Kaminsky would slip but that they might need to trade up to get him. I'll have to go back to look at the draft thread to see exactly where that had come from.

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If Gambo actually knew our draft board, seems pretty clear we had Kaminsky above everyone else.

[bwgood77]

Booker might have saved his job but I'm not so sure it had anything to do with WCS. Prior to Ryan, leaks were common but not so much with him in place. From the comments about him shortly after the draft, I suspect Booker was their guy all along with Kaminski the other high priority.

I do believe that after the draft McD always says whoever he drafted was his guy all along. Had he drafted any of three different guys, he would say that. Yes, there was mention of Kaminsky, but on draft night there was a little talk of Booker but also if WCS slipped he would definitely take him. I don't think they thought Kaminsky would slip but that they might need to trade up to get him. I'll have to go back to look at the draft thread to see exactly where that had come from.

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

If Gambo actually knew our draft board, seems pretty clear we had Kaminsky above everyone else.

And that second tweet came after Stein was taken at 6. Thank God we didn't take Harrell at 13. If those other 4 were taken surely there had to be someone better than him still left.

[Zelaznyrules]

Gambo hasn't had a clue about the inner working of the Suns front office since Ryan was hired and plugged that leak. That leak, presumably, was Sarver, but it seems that McD finally convinced him that leaking out that kind of info was damaging to our efforts.

[Saberestar]

Gambo hasn't had a clue about the inner working of the Suns front office since Ryan was hired and plugged that leak. That leak, presumably, was Sarver, but it seems that McD finally convinced him that leaking out that kind of info was damaging to our efforts.

Gambo knows a lot of true info about the draft. He has proved that in the last few years.

[dremill24]

Yeah he knows who comes in for workouts and who they're gonna pick just before the pick is announced, hooray

[Zelaznyrules]

Yeah he knows who comes in for workouts and who they're gonna pick just before the pick is announced, hooray

Correct. He follows the team and he talks to people close to the team but he no longer gets inside information. He offers a couple hundred opinions, some of them are right but he misses far more often. I could have told you that Booker was going to be our choice and I'd have looked like a well informed source too. As long as you ignored the fact that I also told you that Kaminsky, Stanley Johnson, Myles Turner, Trey Lyles, Sam Dekker and Bobby Portis were going to be our choice. I'm not trying to knock Gambo, I just believe that his friendship with Sarver allowed him access to inside information and McDonough put an end to that pipeline.

[TeamTragic]

Len looking like a real bigman lately.
Nice to see it.

Not worth his next contract.

1. How much do you see that next contract being?
2. Who do you see that we can attain for that money and is better?

1. Too much for Robin Lopez 2.0
2. Draft plus we have Chandler

[NavLDO]

Not worth his next contract.

1. How much do you see that next contract being?
2. Who do you see that we can attain for that money and is better?

1. Too much for Robin Lopez 2.0
2. Draft plus we have Chandler

1. Two very different players, and we ever paid Robin Lopez 1.0 so that should give you reason for hope.
2. How many Centers develop within 2 years (remainder of Chandler's contract through age 36)

http://bkref.com/tiny/Atkzt

Not sure how Len doesn't compare favorable to the other Centers taken that year NOT named Gobert. Adams--1500 more minutes total played (5600 to 4100), yet has but 36 more Blks and 236 more TRBs--extrapolated out, and Len would have to average .5 BPG and 3.25 TRB per gm to match Adam's output...don't know...not sure he'll make it...

...but I AM pretty sure you wouldn't have a problem giving whatever Len is offered to Adams though, right? Because he has a much better FG%, yet, much lower FT%...has a higher VORP, PER, etc. But these are not astronomical differences, and takes a very 'poor' Len's 'junior' year into play.

But again, my single-minded, single-focused agenda...