Nuggets and the soft local media/bloggers

Powder Blue · Post #1 » by **Powder Blue** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 6:55 pm

Why is it that the local media is so apologetic to these Nuggets? I follow them all on Twitter (Dempsey, Morton, Timmons, etc) and they are all soft IMO. Even most of the Post/Denverstiffs written material is soft. Nuggets win and they shower them with praise and call for fans to show up in support, Nuggets stink up the Pepsi Center and they all just quote Malone, afraid to vocalize their own thoughts.

Mostly I think it's because they're afraid to have their credentials pulled so they avoid any and all criticism of the team. The only guy that gets after them is Kiszla, most people don't like him but at least he calls it how he sees it. I get the passion for the Nuggets doesn't come close to the Broncos but come on guys, demand a little better than what we're witnessing now.

Post #2 » by **NuggetsWY** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 7:35 pm

Powder Blue wrote:Why is it that the local media is so apologetic to these Nuggets? I follow them all on Twitter (Dempsey, Morton, Timmons, etc) and they are all soft IMO. Even most of the Post/Denverstiffs written material is soft. Nuggets win and they shower them with praise and call for fans to show up in support, Nuggets stink up the Pepsi Center and they all just quote Malone, afraid to vocalize their own thoughts.

Mostly I think it's because they're afraid to have their credentials pulled so they avoid any and all criticism of the team. The only guy that gets after them is Kiszla, most people don't like him but at least he calls it how he sees it. I get the passion for the Nuggets doesn't come close to the Broncos but come on guys, demand a little better than what we're witnessing now.

You answer your question from paragraph one, in paragraph two.

RRFB · Post #3 » by **RRFB** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 8:55 pm

Morton and Adam Mares have been fairly critical of Malone on twitter and in their podcasts. They've mostly preached patience though, and I think that's a fair stance. It's easy to forget how young this core is. I like Dempsey, but he has never really put his opinion into anything. He seems to just report the facts.

I'd bet the media also feels some sort of responsibility for repairing the fanbase (as they should, imo). If all they did was bash the Nuggets, they'd be driving away fans rather than bringing new ones in.

Post #4 » by **The Rebel** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 10:17 pm

I don't think it is so much that they are soft, I think the biggest problem is most of them are Nuggets fans. The issue is that many of us fans are all hoping for the best for these young players and Malone, because for the most part we hope for the best for the team and for the most part they all seem like decent guys. Outside of Dempsey who is getting paid by the Post the rest are writing for the Nuggets because they are fans of the Nuggets. It is not like any of our sites have enough traffic to generate a large enough advertising base to really bring in full time paid writers from throughout the country to follow the Nuggets, so many of them are doing it out of love for the team and a dream of being a full time sports writer.

Powder Blue · Post #5 » by **Powder Blue** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 10:20 pm

RRFB wrote:Morton and Adam Mares have been fairly critical of Malone on twitter and in their podcasts. They've mostly preached patience though, and I think that's a fair stance. It's easy to forget how young this core is. I like Dempsey, but he has never really put his opinion into anything. He seems to just report the facts.

I'd bet the media also feels some sort of responsibility for repairing the fanbase (as they should, imo). If all they did was bash the Nuggets, they'd be driving away fans rather than bringing new ones in.

That's a good point about being uplifting in order to repair the relationship with the fanbase. I want the fanbase back too, I like an energetic home crowd. 7-11 speaks for itself tho, it's one game better than where they were at last year this time and worse than the Shaw years. I'd be patient if the young core played a majority of the minutes but they don't. The old "core" plays most of the minutes, finishes the games and the results stay the same.

Powder Blue · Post #6 » by **Powder Blue** » Fri Dec 2, 2016 4:25 pm

The Rebel wrote:I don't think it is so much that they are soft, I think the biggest problem is most of them are Nuggets fans. The issue is that many of us fans are all hoping for the best for these young players and Malone, because for the most part we hope for the best for the team and for the most part they all seem like decent guys. Outside of Dempsey who is getting paid by the Post the rest are writing for the Nuggets because they are fans of the Nuggets. It is not like any of our sites have enough traffic to generate a large enough advertising base to really bring in full time paid writers from throughout the country to follow the Nuggets, so many of them are doing it out of love for the team and a dream of being a full time sports writer.

You and I are fans too, been around quite awhile. We don't have some blind faith to them though, we're both pretty critical. I'll admit I've been pessimistic about the Nuggets as of late but it's not because I don't want them to do well. It just bothers me when they stink up the joint and everyone uses the same "It's a process, be patient" excuse.

Post #7 » by **The Rebel** » Fri Dec 2, 2016 5:19 pm

Powder Blue wrote:
The Rebel wrote:I don't think it is so much that they are soft, I think the biggest problem is most of them are Nuggets fans. The issue is that many of us fans are all hoping for the best for these young players and Malone, because for the most part we hope for the best for the team and for the most part they all seem like decent guys. Outside of Dempsey who is getting paid by the Post the rest are writing for the Nuggets because they are fans of the Nuggets. It is not like any of our sites have enough traffic to generate a large enough advertising base to really bring in full time paid writers from throughout the country to follow the Nuggets, so many of them are doing it out of love for the team and a dream of being a full time sports writer.

You and I are fans too, been around quite awhile. We don't have some blind faith to them though, we're both pretty critical. I'll admit I've been pessimistic about the Nuggets as of late but it's not because I don't want them to do well. It just bothers me when they stink up the joint and everyone uses the same "It's a process, be patient" excuse.

We are different, we are not following the team around and getting to know these guys, especially Malone. Malone and most of the team seem to be very likeable guys, and the media around Denver seem to like them enough to ignore the crap. I personally have not been as pessimistic, but I can see why others including you are.

I will agree the whole be patient crap needs to end, I do not think it is unfair to ask for progress 2 1/2 years into the rebuild process, but younger fans who have not been through these processes before will buy in for a good 3 or 4 years. Want proof go read the 76ers board just after Hinkie was fired, some of the young fans could not understand why 3 years in with no progress could force the team to bring in help and force him out. Patience has to end and results should be expected. I do not expect them to win 50 games this year, but I expected measurable progress from the team and players, and it looks like both regressed at this point.

Post #8 » by **NuggetsWY** » Fri Dec 2, 2016 8:21 pm

Perhaps this is all a Bronco-created-issue - by that I mean that fans in Denver expect the Broncos to be over .500 and in the playoffs every year and contending most years.

The Nuggets seem to have a different approach.

skywalker33 · Post #9 » by **skywalker33** » Fri Dec 2, 2016 8:43 pm

NuggetsWY wrote:Perhaps this is all a Bronco-created-issue - by that I mean that fans in Denver expect the Broncos to be over .500 and in the playoffs every year and contending most years.

The Nuggets seem to have a different approach.

Comparing the NFL to the NBA....apples to earth worms my friend. The NFL Broncos have very little problems attracting player to Denver, a nice place to live, good weather, nice schools and great place to grow a family. The NBA players see Denver as a little market where their brand will seldom be seen, the city that closes up at 2am, cold weather....etc.

Different strokes for sure !!