Game 22: Magic (8-12) @ Pistons (11-10) - 6 PM EST

[engelbert321]

Sad how easily fair weathers give up on their team.

No one on here is fair weather. Some folks get overly optimistic and then vent their disappointment, but that's different.

It separates delusional fans from realistic ones

[In SVG We Trust]

That Dre's mentality is what keeps him being not great. "Hey we're all friends and this is just a sport" BS, fu**ing BS, you're a bad boy and you needs to play HAM every night, we don't care if you and the other big man are friends, lovers or whatever, but on the court is YOUR ENEMY.

[MrBigShot]

Huge overreaction? Are you serious? It's a fact that Reggie isn't a great facilitator. And with Reggie scoring with the other bench players, the starters can get theirs still. This isn't about who is better or worse. It's about balance. Good lord.

Yes huge overreaction, nobody would be suggesting this if we weren't losing to the Magic today.

You start Reggie because he's objectively a much better player than Ish, as lots of people seem to have forgotten.

Lol I give up. No point in discussing anything with you. Incredible

I only speak the truth, not one single poster would be suggesting this if we took care of business against the magic today and I stand by that.

Why wait until we are getting blown out by a worse team in Reggie's first game back? Where was your suggestion of starting Ish and bringing reggie back off a week ago when Ish was playing poorly and several people on the board suggested SVG bench him and start Beno? I didn't see anybody suggesting we start Ish when he scored 4 points on 1/9 against Cleveland.

Now he puts together 5-6 good games and we should just replace our starting PG with him? Overreaction. Anybody can deny it but it's the truth.

[Moses ShamMoses]

Im not that mad about tonight...If Reggie wasnt playing, I think we win. Messing with the Chemistry, while necessary long-term, got the best of us tonight

[TurboTitan]

I dont think there will be any pistons in the all star game this year sadly

[Moses ShamMoses]

Can we trade Baynes yet? I'd love to have a scorer like Vuc off the bench (Marjanovich?)

[jjaymes]

Unfortunately we got exactly what we deserved with the poor first half effort. Until we finish going through our growing pains expect a few more losses like this.

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[Blkbrd671]

fml, this team is so young probably shouldn't be suprised. What is concerning is with the return of RJ we have the disappearance of KCP. Not a coincidence. I would also venture to guess KCP is probably our best player in the PnR.

[7r5ur]

That Dre's mentality is what keeps him being not great. "Hey we're all friends and this is just a sport" BS, fu**ing BS, you're a bad boy and you needs to play HAM every night, we don't care if you and the other big man are friends, lovers or whatever, but on the court is YOUR ENEMY.

Problem is that's not the league anymore. There really isn't anyone like that.

He doesn't have to be a jerk, he just has to play with more energy.

[TurboTitan]

It was likely we were gonna drop a game adding RJ back in the mixer, and at least it came against an irrelevant team (no disrespect) rather than a Boston or Charlotte for example

[The Moose]

I honestly believe if we had run with the group that had being playing so well (No Reggie tonight), we would have won. The chemistry was really clicking.

But, I can accept trading 1 loss in the short term, for the benefit of the future of the team. Obviously we are going to need Reggie this season, so I guess the best option is trying to fit him in now. There was always going to be growing pains, give it a few games for the new rotation to get some chemistry and it will all be worth it.

[The Moose]

fml, this team is so young probably shouldn't be suprised. What is concerning is with the return of RJ we have the disappearance of KCP. Not a coincidence. I would also venture to guess KCP is probably our best player in the PnR.

KCP can be lethal in transition before the defense gets a proper chance to set. He doesn't really get any of those opportunities playing next to Reggie.

[Blkbrd671]

The board went from bench Ish start Beno to start Ish over Reggie in like a week. It's his first game back and he had 18/4 in 23 mins.

We lost this game because of awful collective defense and really underwhelming games offensively for KCP & Tobias.

first game back so total overreaction and we probably need to give RJ 10+ games before a fair eval, but one thing that is concerning is his effort on the defensive end has not changed and the assertion that him getting his own offense is our best chance to win.

Offensively the ball is sticking in his hands too long and he's ignoring other players mismatches and sometimes even the offensive set. He doesn't push the ball at all off defensive rebounds which wouldn't be as upsetting if he actually played d.

Defensively he's playing exactly like last year, more trying to look like he's trying than actually trying on D

Only reason i want Ish to start is because i think he sets the tone much better from the beginning of the game especially defensively, and it allows RJ to have extra energy in the 4th where he really thrives. In the end Ish still gets backup minutes and RJ starter, its just setting the tone.

Again this is a complete overreaction but food for thought

[Pharaoh]

Not completely unexpected but extremely disappointing

We came into the game hot and should have stomped them early.

Instead we lacked everything!

Even with RJ being inserted back into the line up this should have been a win but this is what happens when other player's wait for someone else to play the game for them

Here's hoping they've learnt their lesson after 1 and don't need to see it again

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[NickAnderson]

Magic fan coming in peace. Why does Baynes get some much pt?!


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[In SVG We Trust]

That Dre's mentality is what keeps him being not great. "Hey we're all friends and this is just a sport" BS, fu**ing BS, you're a bad boy and you needs to play HAM every night, we don't care if you and the other big man are friends, lovers or whatever, but on the court is YOUR ENEMY.

Problem is that's not the league anymore. There really isn't anyone like that.

He doesn't have to be a jerk, he just has to play with more energy.

I can put you a lot of examples of competitive and hard big men in the league. I'm not talking about be a shame for himself like Draymond and his flying kicks, but enforcing his power and his presence on the court to the other guys.

There isn't a single perimeter player who is afraid to face Dre in a drive.

[Moses ShamMoses]

On the bright side, Reggie looked good offensively at least (defense was pretty bad though -- looked slow)

[engelbert321]

Yes huge overreaction, nobody would be suggesting this if we weren't losing to the Magic today.

You start Reggie because he's objectively a much better player than Ish, as lots of people seem to have forgotten.

Lol I give up. No point in discussing anything with you. Incredible

I only speak the truth, not one single poster would be suggesting this if we took care of business against the magic today and I stand by that.

Why wait until we are getting blown out by a worse team in Reggie's first game back? Where was your suggestion of starting Ish and bringing reggie back off a week ago when Ish was playing poorly and several people on the board suggested SVG bench him and start Beno? I didn't see anybody suggesting we start Ish when he scored 4 points on 1/9 against Cleveland.

Now he puts together 5-6 good games and we should just replace our starting PG with him? Overreaction. Anybody can deny it but it's the truth.

Lol so it's the truth because you said it. The arrogance. Why wait until we got blown out? or Maybe I was waiting for them to actually play the whole **** game.

[Moses ShamMoses]

Magic fan coming in peace. Why does Baynes get some much pt?!


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SVG is convinced Baynes is a starting quality center...haha

[The Moose]

The board went from bench Ish start Beno to start Ish over Reggie in like a week. It's his first game back and he had 18/4 in 23 mins.

We lost this game because of awful collective defense and really underwhelming games offensively for KCP & Tobias.

first game back so total overreaction and we probably need to give RJ 10+ games before a fair eval, but one thing that is concerning is his effort on the defensive end has not changed and the assertion that him getting his own offense is our best chance to win.

Offensively the ball is sticking in his hands too long and he's ignoring other players mismatches and sometimes even the offensive set. He doesn't push the ball at all off defensive rebounds which wouldn't be as upsetting if he actually played d.

Defensively he's playing exactly like last year, more trying to look like he's trying than actually trying on D

Only reason i want Ish to start is because i think he sets the tone much better from the beginning of the game especially defensively, and it allows RJ to have extra energy in the 4th where he really thrives. In the end Ish still gets backup minutes and RJ starter, its just setting the tone.

Again this is a complete overreaction but food for thought

I'm still hoping that he will play like he did in the post season, where the ball was moving extremely well. We had a great spread of points there as well.